So when you have sex, babies happen and they will always happen until the end of time. So unless you want a baby, you shouldn't have sex. I've never found killing them the reasonable or responsible alternative, and you can say all day that abortion isn't killing. Pro-choicers use that to justify abortion all day long, but the fact is most pro-choicers would drop dead if they had a pregnant dog and you walked over and kicked it in the stomach, resulting in the death of its unborn puppies.
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Choice indeed. Abortion should at least be some kind of option, and if done professionally it would be a lot less painless than the aforementioned kick in the uterus.
Speaking of, I don't know your gender, but that argument is so fallacious I think you deserve this.
*thwack*
$stupidassname: OHGODITHURTS!
I think most people have a less than 100% fertility rating. Even without birth control.
And even if pregnancy was always an outcome of sexual intercourse, carrying said pregnancy to term is most certainly not a guarntee, either. With or without abortion. So pregnancy doesn't even necessarily mean "babies happen."
So, yeah, your first statement isn't quite accurate. Babies don't always happen when you have sex.
"So when you have sex, babies happen and they will always happen until the end of time."
Babies only happen about 5 days out of the month if you have sex. And sometimes, it doesn't take even then.
"So unless you want a baby, you shouldn't have sex."
Well, being a lesbian, I really don't have that problem.
"I've never found killing them the reasonable or responsible alternative, and you can say all day that abortion isn't killing."
I don't find abortion responsible either, but would you rather have babies in trash cans or full orphanages?
"Pro-choicers use that to justify abortion all day long, but the fact is most pro-choicers would drop dead if they had a pregnant dog and you walked over and kicked it in the stomach, resulting in the death of its unborn puppies"
Kicking a dog is animal abuse. It's got nothing to do with babies inside it.
But pro-choicers would have no problem with the dog being taken to a competent vet, and have the pregnancy terminated.
And just in case you haven't learned anything besides abstinence only, condoms, diaphragms, birth control pills, when used properly, prevent pregnancies. And a blastocyte isn't a person.
You know, it's pretty sad when to gay guys (myself and my partner), who have no ability to have children (being both male) and absolutely no desire to adopt have more sane opinions on people who have abortions than someone who would ostensibly have more experience in the area. I don't like abortions at all, but I would *never* take away a woman's right to have one. That you think you need to scare people with ugly imagery just goes to show where your morals come from.
Never heard of The Pill? It's been around for almost 50 years.
You might be "Filthy Gorgeous", but you're "Fucking Stupid" to me.
I once nearly strangled a guy for kicking my non-pregnant dog. Abortions are not carried out by brutally hitting a woman.
"It is not power that matters, but the precise application of power that counts" - Childhood's end, by Arthur C. Clark.
"most pro-choicers would drop dead if they had a pregnant dog and you walked over and kicked it in thestomach, resulting in the death of its unborn puppies."
But we would not care if, I don't know, the dog kicked itself in the stomach. Because then it would be the dog's choice and would not be abusing the animal (along with not being eugenics).
"So when you have sex, babies happen and they will always happen until the end of time."
We've been trying for four months and counting...and, no, there're no fertility issues. So...yeah. Fail.
"....most pro-choicers would drop dead if they had a pregnant dog and you walked over and kicked it in the stomach, resulting in the death of its unborn puppies."
I would most definitely not drop dead, darlin'. What I would do, though, is rip your face off with a rusty spoon if you tried that with any animal in front of me.
"Filthy Gorgeous"? I think not, you despicable piece of excrement. Come back when you're old enough to have an opinion.
Weird, I've been having sex for almost a decade and have never gotten pregnant. Surely it couldn't be the condoms/Pill/Depo shot/birth control in general, could it?
PS- Nice touch, using an analogy comparing women to dogs. Very charming.
Abortion is killing, but not of an "infant" like all the anti-choicers argue. This is just saying to me: "If you have sex, you will get pregnant and die. And pick up AIDS from a public restroom toilet seat."
Morons. They get all bent out of shape over 6 cells, but when something undeniably human is on the receiving end of their nationalist propaganda, they will cheer to see it blasted to pieces. Oh we want to save the babies! Blast the aggressor from the seas! All life is sacred! Beat to earth the evil enemy!
"So when you have sex, babies happen and they will always happen until the end of time"
...and some women won't want them, and will terminate the pregnancy. This has always been the case, and always will be.
"most pro-choicers would drop dead if they had a pregnant dog and you walked over and kicked it in the stomach"
Most dog owners would become incensed if you kicked their dog in the stomach, whether or not they were pro-choice, whether or not the dog was pregnant, you fucktard.
And haven't you ever heard of an emergency spay? Happens all the time.
Yeah. Being pro-choice is akin to kicking a pregnant dog in the stomach... Analogy of the year.
Not having sex kills, too, you know. What do you think menstruation is?
I'd get angry if you kicked a dog that wasn't attacking you first regardless if it was pregnant or not.
And then proceed to kick your ass.
And it's called CHOICe because the woman chooses what she will do, not because some stranger is kicking her in the stomach.
In fact, most people I know, Christian or not, sterilise their dogs. You see, consequential sex.
"Pro-life" is something of a misnomer. I prefer to call them "anti-choice".
Comparing women to dogs? Not only do you fail at understanding the difference between free will and force, but you are a misogynist pig, too. Nice going there. You sure do suit the first part of your name.
Most pro-choicers would drop dead if you kicked a pregnant woman in the stomach and that caused the death of the fetus; hence the word "choice".
Unfortunately, the authors of the Bible didn't see it that way;
Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
The Bible clearly does not equate causing a miscarriage with murder.
If you caused my dog to abort, I'd be able to sue you for damages (vet care for the dog and possibly the loss of the value of the puppies), but I would not be able to have you charged as a murderer. That is very much the same as how the bible recommends dealing with someone who has inflicted violence on a woman that caused her to abort (Exodus 21:22-23). There is not one word in the bible that opposes elective abortion, even though the practice was known at the time.
The benefits of a fine, well-rounded, abstinence only sex education.
They're called condoms, retard...and you can get them for nothing.
"So when you have sex, babies happen"
I need to find my 300 or so babies I have knocking about...
Babies only happen a few percent of the times people have sex. You're not seen as involuntary child-less until you've tried to become pregnant for a year without sucess. We have now tried for 15 years without success. So no, babies do not always happen when you have sex. Plus, humans have invented contraceptives that work almost all of the times, when used correctly.
No, I wouldn't drop dead, I would prosecute you for cruelty to animals. A human being has the right to decide what happens to his or her body. A dog has the right to be treated with dignity and respect. Potential humans and dogs have no rights yet. Both a dog and a human has the right to be born wanted, expected and loved. That's why we're pro-choice, and for sterilizing you pets.
So if you want five kids, that'd be five fucks, for your entire life? Well, suit yourself, but it'll be a hard sell.
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