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(altron333)
The argument they're making here is viability. Essentially they're saying that it's not a person until it can survive outside the womb. There are some pretty easy ways to poke holes in this argument.

First, you push them to define what they mean by a fetus being viable or able to live outside of the womb. Does it have to be able to survive on its own without the mother at all? Until formula was invented, a full term and healthy baby couldn't do that. The current medical definition of viable is 24 weeks gestation, but if the baby is lucky enough to be in a major city with an advanced hospital it's viable to keep them alive earlier than that. In a less developed country without access to advanced medical technologies it's not viable until a while after that. Should location or the advancement of technology define personhood? Is a 24 week gestational age baby in New York somehow more of a human than a 24 week gestational age baby in Namibia? Are either of those babies more inherently a person than their grandparents were at the same age, when technology wasn't advanced? Will a 20 week gestational age baby in 2040 be a person because technology makes them viable if a 20 week baby isn't a person now?

"Viability" is a trash argument.

(LonelyandDeranged20)
So they consider the fetus not a human yet because they can't survive outside their current and natural environment due to their level of development. Well I can't survive under water or on moon because I wasn't developed for a subacvatic or extraterrestrial lifestyle so I am not a human being yet according to this individual's logic.

But they contradict themselves when they say that the baby is alive yet until they can survive outside of their mother's womb. To be able to survive an obstacle or a change of habitat you need to be alive in the first place. To survive means to be alive and thriving despite the harsh environmental change.

This person is confused or retarded. Or both....

(maggie081670)
Let me rephrase..

Nothing is more important than what I want. Nevermind that my choices created another human being. I don't care about that. I will kill if I have to to have my own way.

Sad.

(ExpiredRavens)
They should’ve just said they support murder. Mothers shouldn’t have the innate desire to kill or get rid of their unborn child, it doesn’t make sense biologically or evolutionary wise.

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