Years ago if a Jew married a non-Jew, the whole family sat shiva, cried their eyes out and refused to speak to him/her again. Then they realized and acknowledged the true tragedy of intermarriage. Nowadays, when a Jew announces his/her engagement to a non-Jew, the parents meekly accept it. They might even be surprised if their son or daughter did come home with another Jew! Intermarriage today is a spiritual Holocaust and the way we are losing our people is a tragedy. The Nazis tried to destroy us physically, now intermarriage and the 'demoncratic' American way are destroying our people's souls. Few families, even Orthodox ones, are unaffected. One of my first cousins is a non-Jew and my husband, a baal teshuva, is the only
religious member of his entire extended family. Of his ten cousins, half married out. They are all descendants of a great 18th century rabbi from Prague yet they have no knowledge of their amazing heritage and some of their children today are sadly, goyim. Trips to Israel like Birthright are nice and enjoyable but they are just a bandaid on a life-threatening, gushing wound.
Only a true, intense Jewish education and active outreach programs on every U.S. campus and community might have an impact.
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Years ago if a Jew married a non-Jew, the whole family sat shiva, cried their eyes out and refused to speak to him/her again.
In what insane, illogical world is this supposed to be a GOOD thing?
What on Earth can these ex-Jews be thinking, abandoning racism, apartheid, superstition and the dark ages to live freely in the 21st Century with the person they love?
Yes, because hate filled bitching and moaning about people marrying non-Jews and leaving the fold is a sure fire way to convince them to return... Oh wait.
I'm curious to know Chana Levi's opinion on converts to Judaism.
So Judaism can only survive through extensive brainwashing, a lifetime of cowering in fear from outsiders and the constant threat of alienation from one's family if one steps outside the party line.
It hardly makes Judaism seem worth preserving.
Non-Jews this, baal teshuva that, Americans this, Nazis that, Orthodox ones this, Jews that, goyim this, Israel that, Prague this, rabbi that.
Anything positive to say in all that grizzling? It's almost as though you decry any ties to a human lineage.
Considering that only 1.74% of America's population is Jewish and only 0.2% of the earths population is Jewish the chances of one Jew marrying another outside of Israel (74% Jewish) are negligible at best.
Of course if you are willing to accept same sex marriage the chances of one Jew marring another would increase slightly.
"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids." - Gen. Jack D. Ripper, Dr. Strangelove
"they realized and acknowledged the true tragedy of intermarriage"
I wonder if banning outside genetic material contributed to the fact that Wikipedia has an entire page on the genetic disorders common among Ashkenazi Jews.
Perhaps idiots like Chana Levi might not be bewailing the Jewish people's fate so much if they weren't a great deal more hostile towards potential converts than the Jews of years ago. They bear their own responsibility for this position.
@Swede
Thanks for the attribution of a hive mind to all Israelis, including #1599331, whose favorite pastime is supposedly shooting Palestinian children...like his own. Thanks also for the assumption that someone of Chana Levi's persuasion would be happier in Israel, a country most ultra-Orthodox think ought not to exist. It's comforting to know that, even in the most "progressive" of societies, racial stereotyping is alive and well.
"Years ago if a Jew married a non-Jew, the whole family sat shiva, cried their eyes out and refused to speak to him/her again."
So you like the idea of a family disowning someone for falling in love with another person. You're also for people getting into loveless marriages simply because they are both Jewish. Says it all really
Ladies and gentlemen, behold! The reason I have such a deep dislike of the Orthodox in convenient text form.
My brother married a non-Jew, my sister-in-law was raised Catholic and is currently non-religious. My brother however, has grown more observant over the years. So take your 'marrying a non-Jew makes you a non-Jew' bigoted bullshit elsewhere.
@Old Viking
Not to counter Hasan's response, but Prague has had a very large and bustling Jewish community for close to a thousand years. The Kingdom of Bohemia was one of the few medieval states that would allow Jews to settle in their territory. It's not so much that all famous Rabbis came from Prague, but that Prague had the largest concentration of Jewish people in Europe for a very long time.
If I remember correctly, there's actually some new genetic evidence that in Europe, Jewish men frequently took non-Jewish wives (as well as the other way around), which is why Jews of European extraction almost always look as white as their non-Jewish European counterparts.
Chana Levi, do you really think that Moses was as pasty-faced as you when he walked out of Egypt?
Oh, and because no one has mentioned it yet:
Godwin!
(Apparently, this guy/girl feels that a jew marrying a non-jew is exactly the same as rounding their families up in a gas chamber and releasing Zyklon B.)
Years ago if a Jew married a non-Jew, the whole family sat shiva, cried their eyes out and refused to speak to him/her again.
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{i]They are all descendants of a great 18th century rabbi from Prague yet they have no knowledge of their amazing heritage and some of their children today are sadly, goyim .
Without even try to convert the non-Jew in-laws by, you know, "a true, intense Jewish education and active outreach programs on every U.S. campus and community", which could have helped to raise the number of Jews?
"The Nazis tried to destroy us physically, now intermarriage and the 'demoncratic' American way are destroying our people's souls."
Why did we put so much effort into defeating Nazis if we were going to finish what Hitler started?
This attitude within the Jewish community is why Tay-Sachs Disease exists.
Inbreeding. Seriously, don't do it.
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