Why do pro-choice folks call the other side, "anti-choice"?
We're not anti-choice. We are pro-life. Now if we use your reasoning, doesn't that make you, pro-death?
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Why aren't Christians truely pro-life? They only support life until it actually enters this world, then it's shit on them. Christians are also pro-capital punishment/death penalty, pro-war, pro-death to all those who disagree with them. Your hypocrisy is plain to all. I hope you burn.
You are not pro-life, you are pro-fetus.
Once the fetus is born, you couldn't care less if it died, which is why USA have such high infant mortality, high degrees of poverty, no universal health care, death penalty and a rampant military hero worshiping culture. That is pro-death and not pro-life.
Edit: Not to mention the crazy US gun laws.
@J Arcenas "An IQ of 23..."
Yeah, that's why I said 'widly over-inflating'.
(Note: I'm not Jezebel's Evil Sister from above. I took the name for comedic effect...)
No, because WE don't advocate abortions. We advocate making them available. I can't think of any Pro-Choicer that wouldn't be overjoyed that each and every abortion clinic in the country was shut down because no one wanted or needed an abortion. However, for that to happen, one needs to address a number of things, the first thing on that list is the folly that is Abstinence Only education, and teach the children about proper protection, and that if they feel they need to have sex, that there are ways of doing it SAFELY.
Why do pro-choice folks call the other side, "anti-choice"?
Do you know, I've never called you lot "anti-choice"...
I just call you anti-freedom, since you want to take a womans freedom away from her.
No, because we're not completely opposite views, we're more like at a 45 degree angle.
Look here:
Pro-life view:
You want an abortion? Suck it, you're not getting one
You don't? You're not getting one anyway
Pro-choice view:
You want an abortion? Okay, but it'll be gross and stuff. Here's the paperwork. Fill that shit out.
You don't? Whatever.
So you can be described as 'pro-life' [Though fetuses aren't really alive, they're sorta like parasites] or 'anti-choice', they both apply to your setup.
With us, 'death' is just an option, so we're pro-option-of-death, but pro-choice is more concise, and more accurate since fetuses aren't really independent lifeforms.
his logic is correct but you dumbtards cannot accept it.
the negative of 'pro-choice' is 'anti-choice'.
the the negative of 'pro-life' is 'anti-life'.
how hard is it to get that into your thick skulls? very hard, it looks like.
No, you fuckers have the "pro-death" tag all wrapped up for yourselves. What with your love love of war, torture, capital punishment, denial of euthanasia, third-world desperation...
I see where you going, however it is not the same. We do not wish death upon anybody. We just do not think that anyone has the right to tell somebody what to do with their own body, thus pro-choice. You do not believe that a women has an individual right to do what she wishes with her body, thus anti-choice. You see, you are taking away the CHOICE part of it.
Yes, you are anti-choice. You are against the choice and thus, you are anti-choice. Now if we use your reasoning, doesn't that make you, pro-death?
No. Pro-death, in simple terms, means "for death" Pro-choice is not pro-death, pro-choice recognizes that it is the woman's choice alone and supports that, we have no right to say "Abort it" since it is her choice alone, that is not pro-death. Is it that hard to understand?
@ tracer: I have to disagree. I would not want to label myself as "pro-abortion". I personally am against abortion. However, I do believe that every woman on this planet has the right to choose whether or not she is in a position to need an abortion.
Pro-life is a pathetic misnomer designed to elicit sympathy and make it appear as though it's the moral high ground.
Why do we call you anti-choice? Because you're for forcing women to bear children they might not want or be able to afford just to smooth salve over your conscience and make yourselves look better. You are for taking away the choice of an already-born, adult human woman to decide what she should do with a pregnancy. One choice. Birth or nothing.
That's why. You are not pro-life. You're pro-making yourselves look good for Jesus.
Bloody hypocrites.
@thinking allowed: I've used the term "anti-choice" on occasion myself.
You are not pro-life, most of you people support the death penalty, and many of you will state that abortion shouldn't be allowed even if having the baby would kill the mother, so obviously you are really pro-fetus, anti-choice, and anti-women.
Edit: Not to mention the crazy US gun laws.
Ironically, the argument this chump makes, equating "pro-choice" to "pro-death", would also mean that advocacy of gun rights is equivalent to advocacy of murder.
Both are oversimplistic nonsense.
@mice power
*claps*
Way to miss the entire point of what everyone is saying.
@IQ of 23
The problem is, the two stances that you list are *not* opposites. There are actually at least 3 possibilities:
1) Every pregnant woman must carry the baby to term.
2) Every pregnant woman can choose what to do.
3) Every pregnant woman must get an abortion.
Option 2 offers women a choice. Options 1 and 3 do not. Hence, "pro-choice" and "anti-choice." You may not like the label, but I don't think you can disagree with this. If you can, I worry about you.
Let's talk about the "life" of a fetus. If you want, we can classify 1 as "pro-life" as in, "the fetus must live". The opposite of this is "the fetus must die". This would be "pro-death." This is option 3, and I've never heard of anyone ever advocating this. What about option 2? IT IS NEITHER. It does not advocate one way or the other.
This is why your analogy does not work.
For once, I'm gonna be the guy who says this isn't Fundie. Maybe he does hear that term a lot, and this is just how he responds to it?
Doesn't make him right, mind you, but since when did we crucify people for being wrong?
Though I do find one thing interesting: Most pro-lifers back up if the woman was raped or a product of incest. Now, my question is, isn't that...you know...STILL murder?
My IQ is 23
Wow :) A fundie mensa member :) He probably studied under "Dr" Kent "Dr Dino" Hovind.
Why do pro-choice folks call the other side, "anti-choice"?
I don't. Who told you I did?
We're not anti-choice. We are pro-life. Now if we use your reasoning, doesn't that make you, pro-death?
No, I'm pretty sure I'm pro-life. I also support peoples autonomy over their own bodies.
@hmcook87
No, several Pro-Choicers, as illustrated in this thread, are against abortion personally. They just do not feel it's their right to force that opinion on others.
Actually, I don't agree with the usage of the terms "anti-choice" or "anti-life" (or "pro-death"). I do believe that "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are both loaded terms. I think it's just common courtesy, though, to use the preferred terms - when referring to either side.
Actually, I am pro-death. Pro-choice, pro-war (as long as we have evidence of aggresiveness of the country in question, unlike what we did in Iraq), pro-death penalty (with some restrctions about the death penalty, of course), and pro-passive and active euthanasia.
If you remove the right of someone to make a decision then you must be anti-choice.
However, with that username you are either a Poe or the most refreshingly honest person in fundiedom.
No, we believe that women should have a choice in what happens to their bodies and think that abortion is a necessary evil Also, if you're really pro-life, then that means you are against the death penalty and war, right? If not then stop labeling yourself as pro-life because you only want to control what happens to a woman's body.
@Headache
"Edit: Not to mention the crazy US gun laws."
Hey, we need those for when the crazies get into power, man. (That, and to keep the King of England out of our face).
Pro-choice, anti-abortion, thank you very much. I would like a world where abortion is no longer necessary through the use of contraception or through enough help from society that any woman feels like they could have the child.
You're not pro-life, you're pro-birth. You're only concerned so long as somebody is born on this over-crowded, already taxed-out world. Shit like housing, feeding, and caring for the child don't even blip up on your radar, so long as it's born. After that, who gives a fuck, we loaded one more mouth to feed on a planet running out of space and resources! Yay us!
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