TP: So, I'd imagine for you as for a lot of people who start questioning wokeness, you probably said something small like, "Hey, I kind of don't agree with you on the white people thing," and then they immediately started shoving you as hard as they could out.

AE: Yep, that's exactly what happened. I was working on a project called the Groveland IV back in Florida. It was about these four black men had been wrongfully accused of sexual assault. There was a documentary that we were showing and I was trying to get all these college and high school kids to come and say, "You know, this is America, this is what they do to black people. They shove them through the criminal justice system even when they've done nothing."

In the background, Brett Kavanaugh gets accused of sexual assault. That whole firestorm starts happening and I'm working on this project watching Brett Kavanaugh just completely break down on camera and I brought it to my boss and I said, "You know, why are we treating these two situations differently? Why is he completely just getting obliterated by the media and by the work that we're doing here, yet when these four black men get wrongfully accused we're giving them all the grace in the world?"

And he said, "Well, he's a white man and I don't care and he clearly is the frat boy type so he did it and he should hang."

TP: Wow.

AE: Yeah, just... When I tell you the most dramatic rhetoric you could possibly hear, I was hearing day in and day out. I don't know how I didn't leave sooner, but eventually, it was just, you can't stand it.

TP: I kind of feel like the left hates mixed race people. Like, woke people, their perspective is, I've experienced this personally, where they're like, we should have segregated spaces, right? The POC and the non-POC and then, you know, if you walk up to them and you're like, "What if I'm both?"

They're like, "Get out!" because then you're still white.

And your story, what I'm imagining is, like, you've got white family, him saying, "He's white, I don't care, let him hang," it's like, yo, you realize like, when people say it to me, i'm like imagining my family, I'm like, I don't like that.