Amos Moses #fundie disqus.com

Sally Edwards:
This isn't about denying a creator, it's about there being nothing about transgenderism in the Bible. And there isn't.

Amos Moses:
WOW .... because i have been in NUMEROUS conversations right here on this forum ..... where it was claimed that it DOES ...... so which is wrong ..... YOU ..... or the "TRANSGENDERED" person i had the conversations with .......... do tell ..... which of you is a liar ............

Sally Edwards:
Look Amos, it isn’t hard. Either present me with scripture that specifically addresses transgenderism or admit it does not appear anywhere in the Bible. And invite anyone you know to do the same.

Amos Moses:
as i said .... AGAIN .....i have been in NUMEROUS conversations right here on this forum ..... WITH "TRANSGENDERED" PERSONS ...... or so they claim .......... where THEY claimed that it DOES appear in scripture ...... and that it is NOT a SIN ........ so are YOU ..... or the "TRANSGENDERED" person i had the conversations with LYING .......... do tell ..... which of you is a liar .............. YOU are on the "TRANSGENDERED" side of this issue ..... your position is DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to their position ...... you both CANNOT be telling the truth ....... so ..... AGAIN ...... which of you IS LYING .....

Sally Edwards:
So you can't name the scripture. Consider the matter settled. Thank you.

Amos Moses:
MATTHEW 19 ........ that is the scripture they used .............. so WHICH OF YOU IS LYING ..... the "transgendered" person OR YOU ...........
OR since they are saying it does talk about them and that it is not sin and YOU are saying it does not talk about them .... YOU are calling them LIARS ..............
do i understand your position correctly ............ those "transgendered" persons LIED .........

Sally Edwards:
I don't care who used it. It doesn't say transgendered or specifically refer to them. They are wrong and so are you.

Amos Moses:
so when it says ..........
19:11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
that is not them ...... and YOU are calling THEM LIARS ............ and they are wrong and you are right ..... WHY .............

Sally Edwards:
Eunuchs are not transgendered people. That's why.

Amos Moses:
WHY .... who says ... YOU say so ..... WHY .... what are YOUR qualifications to make that judgement ...... those "transgenders" are reading the exact same text ...... what makes you smarter than them ...... are YOU a "transgender" ..........

Sally Edwards:
Because they're not transgendered people, Amos. They have entirely different definitions. Do you know what a transgendered person is? Maybe you don't and that explains why you're so unsympathetic to them. A eunuch is a sexless person. A transgendered person still has a gender.

Amos Moses:
they were TRANSGENDERED persons saying that ... are you calling them stupid ...... that they do not know what they read and they do not know WHAT they are .... YOU are SMARTER than they are as to WHAT THEY ARE ............. ARE YOU SERIOUS ............. and then YOU have the temerity to say " Do you know what a transgendered person is?" .... are you saying THEY do not know ...............

Sally Edwards:
In the first place I'm sure they didn't say that, I think you're probably misquoting them. Secondly it's not a difficult concept, the idea of transgenderism is relatively new, and so it could not possibly have appeared in the Bible.

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