If you are shot, who do you blame, the bullet or the person who pulled the trigger? And which do you think these women are closer to? For me, the answer is unquestionably that they are like the bullet. Women are not capable of independent thought, so they cannot really be held responsible for their actions. All traditional societies have recognized this and have held the father or the husband responsible, while of course giving them the authority they needed to guide women’s behavior. Modern women can no more be blamed for their behavior than a spoiled toddler can be blamed for throwing a tantrum.
It is the men in modern culture who are fully responsible for the horrible culture that causes women to misbehave. If men came to their senses, they could instantly revoke women’s vote and enforce basic rules of decency including monogamy. It wouldn’t take long before women learned to behave in a civilized manner. So don’t blame the women.
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Haha. We're not going back there, ever. So bring it already, a*hole. Or better yet, stay in your basement.
Ever heard that old saying, “God gave man a brain and a penis, but only enough blood to operate one at a time”? I don’t know why, but somehow this quote brought it to my mind.
Women are not capable of independent thought
Modern women can no more be blamed for their behavior than a spoiled toddler can be blamed for throwing a tantrum.
If men came to their senses, they could instantly revoke women’s vote
It wouldn’t take long before women learned to behave in a civilized manner.
And you wonder why you can't get laid...
When I was shot, I think I blamed the bullet and the asshole who shot me. If neither had been present, I probably would not have been shot.
I did NOT (repeat: NOT) think to myself: wow, I'm in a lot of pain here and bleeding real bad, what a nifty metaphor for gender relations in our society.
Loser.
Women are not capable of independent thought, so they cannot really be held responsible for their actions.
Have you ever talked to a... No, scratch that. Have you ever been near a woman?
looks at link title
Never mind...
@1606685
They're like conspiracy theorists.
They won't even entertain the possibility that they are wrong, no matter how blindingly obvious it is.
@Pip
Oddly enough, I agree with you 100% in the most literal sense. Some anthropologists actually say that gender relations in prehistory were actually a bit more egalitarian.
The "Sexist Caveman" meme may actually have been a complete misnomer and both Patriarchy & Androcracy may have been a consequence of civilization/agriculture.
Let's say that males didn't adapt well to these revolutionary changes and turned into idiots.
I'm glad that there's men out there, these days that see the light and see these MRA/PUA/Dumbasses for what they are...pond scum.
Ironically, it may have been women who invented agriculture. They were usually the "Gatherers" so with their great knowledge of plants, they're the likely candidates.
Now, the goal should be "Egalitarianism In Civilization". Yes, it is possible. It's the backwards thinkers who are the only barrier to this goal.
If you think women are not capable of independent thought, it's clear that you don't know an women, whatsoever.
You're the closest to a spoiled toddler, stupid, and you throw temper tantrums day in and day out.
No, it wouldn't take long before women took a leaf out of Lysistrata's book and refused to cooperate with men.
Katanas were seized from the populace immediately after WWII by the occupying government. Guns, too.
Before then, Women (even as per the 'Yamato Nadeshiko' ideal) were trained in Naginatajutsu . Still is a martial art practiced by women today. So is Kyudo . And whilst few in number, there are still schools that train in Ninpo/Ninjutsu; One word: Kunoichi .
A martial art that is said to have inspirational roots in Ninpo/Ninjutsu is Krav Maga. It is part of the training for recruits in the armed forces of a certain country. Israeli citizens must do National Service in the IDF: regardless of gender .
There are schools that teach Krav Maga as part of MMA; a couple do in my locale. In both cases, in their promotional material, they say 'Women welcome '.
...but hey, if you are left a bleeding mess, who do you blame: the woman - trained in Krav Maga - for putting you in that state, or you for not possessing the Self Control that we normal, decent, civilised non-subhuman 'incel' have as part of our psychological makeup, to so much as not contemplating the notion of even thinking of attacking the woman in the first place? [/Lorena Bobbitt] >:D
"Women are not capable of independent thought,..."
Of course, the independently arrived at thoughts of women to stay as far away as possible from Franklin and other incel bloggers can't really be independent, can they? No, of course not. The fault lies with ordinary guys who women keep on having sex with.
How can this be remedied? Why, women should only have sex with incel men, who would then cease to be incel. It's just one dilemma after another. There's another problem, women don't like to have close relationships with men who think them incapable of independent thought and who think they're not responsible for their actions. Incels who want to take away women's vote because women are only good for one thing. The one good thing that incels can't avail themselves of.
So the true solution, knowing that mothers are out, is one I'm sure that Franklin has already put in to practice, is to continue masturbating and grizzling.
So this is the reason American men cling to their guns? Phallic deficiency? Fear of the female? Well, it seems to me it could be so in your case. Have you any idea how trogloditic this kind of thinking comes across to Europeans? Sorry to decent Americans, but this is the sort that gets the whole tribe a bad name. Please isolate these cave-dwellers in reservations where they can have no contact with the outside world for fear of contamination. Hopefully they will die out - eventually.
Women are not capable of independent thought, so they cannot really be held responsible for their actions.
Apparently the sky is pink with black polka dots on your planet...
My wife, rest her, was one of the most brilliant minds I've ever encountered. She was scientifically inclined, had an encyclopaedic knowledge of human anatomy, could outwit anyone I can think of (including me, needless to say) and was one of the most independent thinkers I've ever met.
Bring that "women are incapable of independent thought" shit 'round my way. I PROMISE you that in her name I will hurt you in places you didn't know you had nerve endings.
Clearly this person's secretly a woman, then. He doesn't seem capable of much in the way of thought.
EDIT: Just looked up 'incel'
This guy is either a Poe, or he can't get laid, therefore, women are to blame. I hope it's the first.
All traditional societies have recognized this and have held the father or the husband responsible,
No, all traditional societies realized that without effective birth control, no man could ever know if he was raising his own kids. The "solution" was for men to keep women in a cage so they couldn't mess around with other men. Now that we have effective birth control, that's no longer necessary, but it will take another half century before the attitudes of our grandparents have faded.
Wow, that didn't go the way I expected. I was certain I was going to end up disagreeing with the OP.
Instead we agree on his conclusion:
I do not blame women for not sleeping with Franklin.
If you are shot, who do you blame, the bullet or the person who pulled the trigger?
Considering "icels" are people who consistently shoot themselves in the foot and blame the people they're aiming for I don't think you're quite justified in saying such.
"If you are shot, who do you blame, the bullet or the person who pulled the trigger?"
My country, the UK. Dunblane.
'If. ' [/Spartan Laconic Wit]
Kinda annihilated your own 'argument', when that analogy is impossible to apply to my country, when just about all men aren't allowed access to guns, never mind women.
So I'm afraid it's more -than impossible to blame the men in the Western country of Britain, therefore your 'blame' argument is utterly moot, ergo your entire way of thinking destroys itself.
What are you going to use as an 'analogy' for we in the UK, Franky-boy? Your call.
Confused?
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