Religion is the opiate of the masses
...and I wanna be their dealer!
Someone with the intelligence to have a philosophical basis of morality should also have the intelligence to recognize that it is preferable to attribute this morality to deities as Machiavelli explained so clearly. In my case I was atheist and studied history, anthropology, primate behavior, and evolutionary psychology in order to determine the ideal morality. Then I found this morality in the Old Testament, and I recognized the benefit to attributing morality to the god of the Old Testament. Atheists who want to know how to do this can read this.
16 comments
“Then I found this morality in the Old Testament, and I recognized the benefit to attributing morality to the god of the Old Testament”
If you were really an atheist who found this basic, universal morality through a study of humans, wouldn’t it have been more likely to interpret the OT morality as being a parallel discovery by the authors, no deities needed?
I disbelieve.
I was gonna go into more detail, some long spiel, bit it's fschmit.
He's not going to read it, he doesn't have a solid morality (he picked Old Testament because it was "successful" with Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all coming from it not because it was particularly moral or philosophical reason) and his various posts show him to be a miserable, unlikable cunt.
So, just simply, no. That's not how you make an argument for religion, Machiavelli wasn't religious, everything you say is terrible.
as Machiavelli explained so clearly
That feeling when you critically fail your Satire check and your critique of your leader’s cynical power plays works out rather well as an unironic handbook for villains like him…
<@KeithInc. > #120426 usefulness of claiming it comes from God. Franklin Schmidt is all about the fantasy of being a Platonic philosopher king, amorally manipulating society according to his twisted ideas of the “Greater Good”.
I recognized the benefit to attributing morality to the god of the Old Testament. Atheists who want to know how to do this can read this
...and we have. Only too well: certainly for even your 'Opinion's own good, least of all the basis of your entire morality 'argument'. Committing Statutory Rape against an underage girl. No wonder you condone a paedophile.
And not just Mary Jane Lick Sick, fschit.
I deconverted last summer. One of the first questions I thought of was where then, does morality come from?
The answer, that I’ve found, anyway, is that morality really doesn’t have an explanation, and that’s okay with me! Life is meaningless, and there is no right or wrong. But I’m going to try to do the right thing anyway, because I choose to.
That’s when I realized Christian morality (maybe all morality) is about as axiomatic and ultimately pointless as this. Christians believe right is right because God said so. Man’s dignity has nothing to do with man, just the fact that man is God’s property. Calvinists will take the next logical step by insisting that we fundamentally have NO dignity, and that God just spun us up out of pottery or something, damning the majority of us to eternal torment and loving the leftovers, because he chose to.
Was the OT god acting morally with Job? He was so insecure Satan was able to get him to torture an innocent man? He says, “Your God is a jealous God,” so jealousy must be part of godly morality? How about slaughtering all the men and children of your enemies and sex trafficking the women? The Samaritans and Temple Priests Jesus criticized where following OT morality, so I hope you don’t claim to be a Christain.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.
