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["my friend doesnt believe in this conspiracy stuff he thinks rich people can go to wallstreet and manipulate there something if they have so much power. He thinks they dont need disney stars or lobbies to gain money. There would be other mechanisms than the illuminati and their people. I really dont know how to respond. I feel that the old systems of wealthy people still exist today even if you cant see it clear or do not have edivence. What would you answer? He thinks I might be too naive."]

- They do manipulate Wall Street.

- Celebrities aren’t there to make them money. They’re there to guide mass culture to get the public to hold the values that the elite want them to hold.

- Why would there be other mechanisms? If a powerful group controls world finances, politics, and media, it makes sense that they’d be able to suppress any opposition.

- There’s plenty of evidence. Just because it isn’t acknowledged in public doesn’t mean the proof isn’t there.

- He’s only saying you’re naïve because he’s in denial about this. He doesn’t want to face it because it really is horrible. Calling you naïve is a manipulation tactic meant to make you question your beliefs so that you’ll agree with him, which will placate him because it’ll allow him to continue living in his comfortable denial.

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["I don't really believe in all those symbols or anything but I DO believe in Mk-Ultra and I believe that a few people in my family have been through that programming, how do I know?"]

1) Do they have a prominent or high-paying job, or a job in the entertainment industry, or do they work around important people? Examples: Judge, police chief, CEO or on the board of directors of a large corporation, state legislator or on a city council, actor/singer/model, professor at a large university, scientist at major research facility, doctor, church leader etc.

2) Do they, or have they ever, belonged to a cult (Jehovah’s Witness, Mormons, Scientology, etc.)?

3) Do they ever seem to change personalities, or have sudden, unexplainable shifts in emotion?

4) Do they ever forget things that they shouldn’t, or very recent things (e.g., you two went to a movie a week ago, and they don’t remember going out)?

5) Do they have difficulty with time organization (e.g., they can’t remember whether an event happened 1 year ago or 5 years ago)?

6) Do they have regular appointments at a place that could double as a programming center (e.g., doctor’s office, therapist)?

7) Do they ever seem to drift off and stare into the distance (go into a dissociative state)?

8) Do they have an overbearing parent/spouse/friend/coworker who seems to follow them everywhere, and could possibly be a handler?

9) Did they have an abusive childhood or abusive relationship(s)?

10) Do they have an obsessive love of movies that are used for programming (Alice in Wonderland, The Wizard of Oz, Star Wars, Star Trek)?

The more of these you answer ‘yes’ to, the more likely it is that your relatives were MK’d.