It seems to me that this alternative discipline psycho babble is a relatively new phenomenon. For generations parents have spanked their kids and society seemed much safer and much more orderly. I think there is definitely a correlation between lack of physical discipline and a society that degrades itself to a godless society. Remember when the phrase "wait 'til your father gets home" put fear into the hearts of children. It was a respectful fear that should be exuded towards all authority figures. In summary, I believe more kids these days need a good spanking. Maybe we would have less of the Columbines (school shootings) and rebelliousness in the world if more Fathers acted like fathers.