marektypes , EmeraldTechno & AndromedaPrometheum #wingnut reddit.com

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spoilerDIY abortion is perfectly
legal in all 50 states.
NEWSFLASH:
You can't end genocide by telling
women, "you're forbidden to hire
someone to murderyour preborn,
but it's okay if you do it yourself."

(marektypes)
Yup. This is the great failure of the pro-life political movement. You can't end abortion by specifically giving women special murder privileges. The pro-life movement fought to DECRIMINALIZE and remove strong language from previous pre-Roe abortion laws in places such as OK, AR, and WS, there is blood on the hands of lobbyist groups such as SFL action, NRTL, and SBA llst.

(marektypes)
For those wondering what I am talking about... take Indiana's new ban for example that just went into effect. Within the code, there is a created legal immunity for abortion. By definition, mothers who kill their babies necessarily can never face any sort of legal problems whatsoever. The woman who decides to order pills online with malice and forethought can take them in front of the statehouse and kill her child with no problems. This is the fruit of the pro-life establishment - they legalized DIY abortion all while votig 'no' on equal protections for these same children over the last 6 years.

(EmeraldTechno)
What if abortion pills were also outlawed?

(AndromedaPrometheum)
Dude you cannot end abortion on one swift move. We can go after DYI abortions after we eliminate the third parties easier because part of the reason abortion is normalized is because abortionists make money. Once that vein dries up we can go after the ones but is a stepping up process try to ban it all and it ends up backfiring.

(marektypes)
I never said you could end it with one swift move. Trust me - I know this very well. This is going to be a long, drawn-out battle, in which we need to, over time, change the culture.

But you certainly aren't getting closer to the goal of 'ending it' by categorically writing protections and special murder privileges into rule and law for those persons who kill their child.
In fact, it's worse than that - these laws which protect the preborn were literally amended to remove some of those protections. If you don't believe me, let's have a zoom call and let me share my screen as I walk you through the code and bills in the aforementioned states.

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