Barrenness is a punishment from God, like childbirth pain is. ( For anyone that doesn't beleive me, go study the Torah, it is in there. Jesus never changed this punishment, like he never changed child birth pain and it still applies). No woman has a right to go over God's head on this subject. Barren women are not supposed to raise children. The adoption system in the United States abuses and punishes innocent babies and uses and does not forgive single mothers while treating and spoiling women who God has punished like queens. The reason for this is typical American. Money. Closed adoption records, sealed birth records and denying us our God given right to see our real parents names on our birth certificates is abuse in it's highest form. Millions of people agree with me. Here are some signatures from the Abolish Adoption Petition:
www.abolishadoption.com
Btw, this BOARD IS A SUPPORT BOARD FOR ADOPTEES LIKE ME AND BIRTH MOTHERS. ALL TROLLS WILL BE REPORTED FOR ABUSE.
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Ok, are you still thinking that the period is also a curse of God, and not an unfertilised egg?, do you still think that pain during birth is common to all mammals whose offsprings have large brains?. Haven't you ever considered that science has discovered some of the causes of barreness and some of them are acquired after a period of fertility?. And before you go for adoption, how would Samuel survive?, what on earth did Jacob with Joseph's children?
So, let's see:
THE PROBLEM: Adopted children have difficulty finding their biological parents, due to the way the U.S. adoption system keeps such records secret.
THE SOLUTION: Ban adoption outright.
Yep, typical Fundie thinking....
Just to be fair, let's note that on his site he advocates "guardianship" as the preferred alternative to adoption, and explains the difference. So he's not totally brainless... still a fundie nutcase though.
And what would you do with all the unwanted children, snowbird? Gas them? Then incinerate their bodies? Medical experiments? Or leave them to fend for themselves in the streets?
Clearly, you have not thought this out at all, dumbass.
To be fair, the adoption system in the US has issues, and the amount of private money involved in adoption is disheartening. This, however, is the opposite of a good argument.
I am an adoptee. I am quite happy with the family I was adopted into. I was contacted by my birth mother not too long ago, and while I have the lines of communication open, I find the whole idea to be extremely awkward and have not yet really found peace with it, nor am I sure that I ever will.
This schmuck does not speak for me.
Also, Wake Up is a deranged idiot with an off-topic post who doesn't realize you don't have to melt steel frames to make them collapse, just soften them. Go to hell, Wake Up.
"Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth in singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the Lord." Isaiah 54:1 KJV
Good freaking lord. What a crazy-ass nut.
She should have gotten some professional help, like, a looong time ago.
So...if we weren't sinners, then pushing a relatively large object out of a very small orfice wouldn't hurt at all? And all adopters are evil bitches, who work in conspiracy with the evil government to re-enact Oliver Twist? Cripes, I never knew that!
I think an orphan would take a nice warm home over the cold streets any day.
You should be gratefull that you were adopted and placed in a home with food and a warm bed. There are plenty of children who live on the streets with nothing. So shut the fuck up and get over yourself. Your real parents obviously didn't love you or else they wouldn't have dumped you.
The last sentance made me laugh.
SnowBird, you are an ass. Be grateful you were adopted. Some of us don't know who our parents are because we were abandoned and left for someone else to deal with. In my case, a cop found me and took me to hospital, where I was then placed in a childrens home where I remained until 17, when I got my own place.
I know a lovely woman who loves kids, is married, has a good job and home, and she cannot have children because she had leukemia in her teens. Yet some women who can reproduce abandon their children. Is this just? Hell no! Your god is a fool.
In all fairness, there are problems with the system which means a lot of children never get at least fostered. It is because of this that America NEEDS more families willing/able to adopt!
Its too late for me, as an adult, but why deny others the right to a family because you had issues with yours?
@ Brian X
Yes I agree. This schmuck CERTAINLY does not speak for me.
"Barrenness is a punishment from God... Barren women...women who God has punished..."
So if a couple wants to adopt because they are infertile, it's always the woman's fault? You are a twat.
Uh...barrenness is a curse? I suppose, if you want kids it could be. But, uh, I used to pray to your god to make me barren. Does that make me a sinner?
Barrenness is a punishment from God, like childbirth pain is.
Shit, damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Barrenness is a punishment from God, like childbirth pain is.
No kids = curse.
Kids = curse.
"It's a gift, and a curse."____________Adrian Monk
See that hole? No, not that one, the one further down next to the dump.
Throw yourself in it.
You don't speak for me. I'm glad my adoptive family said yes when they learned about me and how I was languishing in an orphanage. I doubt I'll ever meet the woman who gave birth to me, even if I searched for years. And I'm all right with that, because I already have a wonderful family, including my in-laws.
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