[On Rittenhouse being acquitted]
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Robert, you turned out to be worse than I thought in exactly the way I expected.
The character you've based your... fantasy on: Michael Knight.
You do realise that he worked for 'FLAG': Foundation for Law And Government, do you not...?!
So the police - which the white right support - should allow those who think they're the law to do what they like, Bobby? Got news for ya: something which existed several years before "Knight Rider", which appeared in the 2nd issue (in 1977: to the present day) of the British comic "2000 AD", "Judge Dredd".
Never mind 'JIMPS': Judge Impersonators, Mega-City One Judges like Joe take an extremely dim view of those who thought they were judge, jury & executioner outside of Justice Department: vigilantes .
I refer you to the first of a number of 2000 AD/DC Comics collaborations: "Batman/Judge Dredd: Judgement on Gotham ".
As a vigilante myself (of the masked variety!), I was cheering for him all the way.
You know that comic book super heroes like the kind you pretend to be aren't supposed to just go around killing the bad guys, right?
Whatever, I'm guessing when you think of masked vigilantes, this is probably what you have in kind mind*.
*stupid typos!!!
I wasn’t surprised this would happen in the slightest. Turns out the jury was just as biased as the judge. Time for the lawsuit to begin! Kyle and his mommy are going to be sooo sued!
Hopefully, there won’t be a riot because that only be playing into the wingnut’s hands. The best way to fight this is to not riot and just sue, instead. When one door closes, another opens. This is only one battle out of many. Keep up the fight.
And once again, my faith in the USA and her justice system goes down a notch.
…For f*cks sake, America, what is wrong with you!? If Rittenhouse wasn’t a Conservative WASP Stormtrumper, I’m sure he would have been given lifelong in prison without question.
@Timjer #104312
We must keep cooler heads. Justice is still possible, it’s just that the Rittenhouse mess was a special circumstance where the Judge and Jury were made out of wingnut morons.
Remember, Derek Chauvin (a former cop who’s white) is still rotting (rightfully so) in Prison due to his murder of Eric Garner (a black man he asphyxiated to death while arresting him). Justice is still possible and the Rittenhouse court doesn’t represent all courts everywhere in the USA.
And again, the DOA will likely soon be involved and the families of Rittenhouse’s victims will likely bring out wrongful death suits. I highly doubt anyone will let this slide. Remember: The wingnuts are outnumbered by a majority that consists of normal people.
Now, let’s work on some strong Democratic candidates for the Mid-terms!
@Bastethotep #104294
I’ve already had his real name for years because a group of us had to block him during his forum banning and he went off the deep end stalking everyone and using our names which eventually led to actual legal repercussions. You won’t hear him admit he got so creepy the law had to intervene.
You think Bobby-kins stresses the Masked part because if the police identified him he’d be immediately brought in because of the whole “stalking” thing on his record?
Kyle is not a vigilante. He was simply someone acting in self-defense.
Case closed. You lost. Move on and stop rioting, stop assaulting 17 year old kids (or anyone else for that matter).
@SpukiKitty02 #104321
This!
As frustrating, as downright dangerous, as vigilantes are (and as damaging to justice as they are), threatening them like that won’t do. It’ll just generate more of the same. People will feel more in danger because they’ll be in more danger, and the whole thing gets even more entrenched.
In b4 Bobby emails me or makes some sort of public announcement about me being two-faced because I ‘fought fire with fire’ and posted his homophobic rant to FSTDT where he could be publicly humiliated the way he publicly humiliates others. Shaming people online is not the same as shooting them dead, Bobby, and you know it. You don’t want to be publicly humiliated? Don’t say shit to open yourself up to it. Simple as.
Ever since learning about the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society on RationalWiki and doing my own research, I’ve had a distaste for most vigilantes, and especially Kyle, who went out of his way to do this.
@Kooky
So Nutzoids with their precious penis extensions can do what they like? So when there's a riot here in Britain, Rile Kittenhouse should - with its gun - cross national borders...?!
You know what you'll be admitting when your answer is the only one possible.
Metal detectors at all our airports. British Transport Police: I've seen them at Victoria Station with H&K MP7s.
Even remodelled SA-80s carried by BTP officers at Paragon Interchange here in Hull.
No Kenoshas here. Dunblane made sure of that: certainly by a Conservative government.
...oh, and thanks for the quote . It's triggered kooks like you - such as the quoted lolcow Bobby here - that keep this site going.
@Timjer #104363
- it’s not a crime to cross state lines (and no, the weapon didn’t cross state lines, only Kyle)
The claim that he “provoked” people into attacking him is completely baseless when you consider that these kinds of people 1) were out looking for trouble anyway 2) nobody forced them to attack the guy with the rifle 3) even if Kyle straight up walked up to Rosenbaum and told him “haha you’re a poopy head and your mom is whore”, no one forced him to respond to the provocation or to continue trying to attack Kyle after he began retreating, Christ, if a young girl dresses provocatively and tells you to fuck her, do you take the bait or do you use your better judgement and just ignore her?
Bobby thinks he's Kamen Rider; I wouldn't bet on him to win a slappy fight with fucking Blankman.
Also, vigilantism is illegal, dipstick. There's a reason the cops want to bring down Daredevil. Which this mass-murdering putz most certainly is not. But go ahead and root for the wrong guy again, Bob; it's not looking like any real heroes are coming down the Right's side of the aisle anytime soon, so grab whatever you can find, I guess.
@Koko #104387
He wasn’t provoking anybody, he was straight up giving orders to a crowd of protesters. As an armed man. Who was not in fact a cop.
“self-defense (in my view) involves the defense of others as well”
By the very definition, it does not. Your view is both wrong and utterly irrelevant here. Since you have shown to have no empathy for the protesters and don’t even try to have an unbiased view of the whole shitshow, you don’t really get to have a “view” on this. You are acting a tribalistic shitape instead of at the very fucking least trying to understand and address the grievances of the people involved.
“Christ, if a young girl dresses provocatively and tells you to fuck her, do you take the bait or do you use your better judgement and just ignore her?”
BZZZ WRONG AGAIN, fuckhead! The right answer is: Neither. You try to find her parents/guardians and explain why is she trying to sex up an adult. Failing getting a proper reaction out of them you try to make cps at the very least aware of the issue. To translate it here: You address the fucking root causes, like having no legal problem with shooting to kill in so-called self-defence.
Hi Bobby I know you're reading this because you're trying to get into my old accounts again. :) Did you know you're potentially breaking the law such as the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act? Just letting you know since you liked to scream about the law before but had no clue what you were talking about, so I figured why not give a hand this time!
@Koko #104387
self-defense (in my view) involves the defense of others as well
…No, it really doesn’t. That kinda goes against the very definition of SELF -defense, you know? Dumbass.
the people who attacked him had no right to do so
Pretty sure that niether had Kyle the right to act as an law-enforcment figure(*) and tell those protestors what to do while using a (assault-grade) weapon to give himself unlawful authority over them.
(*)He may not have pretended to be a cop, but he was still an underage civilian who had no business meddling with those things and escalating them.
There’s a reason why vigilantism tends to be frowned on in places wih functioning authorities. Armed men taking laws into their hands is a recipe for chaos and disasters, like this case, when a juvenile shoot at three persons because he didn’t receive plice training which would have enabled him to correctly deal with riots.
We know what you’re interested wasn’t to defend others - police was available there - but the ability to legally kill your political opponents.
@Timjer , @Skide : Actually you’re probably incorrect here. Self-defense does indeed cover defense of others in most jurisdictions, unintuitive though that might sound. It does not, however, cover defense of property, which was his originally stated reason for showing up at the protest.
Confused?
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