men will never be feminist allies because they will never give up PIV. asking them to stop using porn and prostituted women is even asking too much in most cases, but literally insisting that they never again stick their dick into any woman under any circumstances, (with the only possible exception being that the woman desires to become impregnated by him) is a nonstarter. i daresay that NONE of them are willing to go “that far” despite the demonstrable fact that PIV is the foundation of patriarchy and male privilege, and the greatest source of female suffering globally. the ONE THING that would work is the ONE THING they will not do. and this tells me everything i need to know about how seriously they take any of this, and how much they value women, and how much they are invested in their own privilege and how they dont see women as equal or even human at all — PIV pathologizes womens reproductive biology and others us. therefore it is HATE, in action, but no one sees it that way, especially not men, and perhaps especially not “feminist” men who claim to love women so much, including “making love” to them. with their dicks obvs.
not a single fucking one of them is willing to go this far. and therefore they can all go fuck themselves AFAIC. literally and more literally.
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Most women enjoy PIV. Surely it is anti-feminist to deny them that choice?
On the plus side, given as I've never had any desire to stick my dick anywhere near a lady garden, I guess that means I'm allowed on board?
but no one sees it that way
That should be the clue for examining your assumptions. I mean, if you don't like guys, that's fine. Go be the best lesbian you can be. But many women thoroughly enjoy PIV and you're infantilising them.
So the male who runs this site has decided to launch his little war against radfems blogs because radfems refuse to fuck and suck his transwoMEN dudebros. "Bros before hoes" right guys? Ugghh. Those frigid feminists just need to be loosened up with a good hard fuck from you liberal hetmale straight "allies", amirite?
FYI, there is no such thing as meaningful consent between an oppressed person and her oppressor.
Seriously? Humans don't reproduce by budding, you know. I suppose every other mammal species is guilty of promoting patriarchy too, huh?
@#1671714
You're adorable, can we keep you?
Right, I know this is going to fall on deaf ears but...
Nobody is saying that. All that's happening here is that people disagree with the radical feminist idea that sexual intercourse involving a penis being inserted into a vagina is some sort of horrible act of oppression.
FAO: Anonymous Coward #1671714,
No, this place "calls out" radfem blogs because they're so full of bigoted shit their eyes are turning brown.
(Ugh, I just used a Tumblr word.)
@Mech610
Mammals, reptiles, birds, pretty much every species that doesn't reproduce in water.
So like a Chiristian Fundie this person is pissed off at evolution.
If penis-in-vagina sex is supposed to be made not allowed, how are we supposed to procreate?
@#1671703
I have no fucking idea.
@#1671714
Get out of here, Stalker.
You're not allowed to talk about biology until you attain at least a middle school-level understanding of it. As for suffering... yeah, you're just not allowed to talk about that at all. If you honestly believe that consensually having natural sexual intercourse in the form that has been the basis for all reproduction of animal life on our planet for at least the last several hundred million years is the worst thing that can happen to a person then you clearly have no fucking clue what actual suffering -- of any sort -- is and have no right to lecture anyone on it.
@SpukiKitty , Mech610, et al.: Actually, there have been at least a few hyper-feminists who've gone that far. Shulamith Firestone, for instance, deemed pregnancy as innately torturous, and that even Nature itself needed to be questioned and castigated (or thereabouts...) for its own oppressive strands.
At a guess, they're looking to the pre-sexual-reproduction era of archae/bacteria (q.v. "Adam's Curse", which I'll confess I've only skimmed), deeming even the first plants and cnidarians as somehow corrupted, and seeking to let us humans enjoy the innately non-oppressive benefits of non-sexually-reproductive life. (I think whiptail lizards got mentioned in "Adam's Curse"...) {grumble} I wish I had a better sense of what's going on; there probably isn't as much accuracy in what I've written just now as I'd like.
Ummm, PIV is not the cause of privilege in any way. Thank god, because I love that shit (and I'm a woman).
Speaking of which, hubby burned himself nicely on our truck's radiator and the pain meds he has to take for the injury means I can't get laid for two weeks...and it SUCKS.
Wait, back up a bit, what's wrong with porn?
@#1671714
You WISH we cared that much about you. It's mostly religious stuff that gets tossed up here, but every once in a while we get some incredibly bigoted woman like the above who suffers from acute diarrhea of the mouth.
Hell we get more MRA quotes than radfem quotes.
I like how the asshole anonymous bigot commenter refers to transwomen -- otherwise known as "women" -- as "dudebros."
Proving how much of an asshole they actually are, of course.
Also proving they don't actually read this site by not noting that FSTDT goes after MRAS at a much higher rate. But I guess that doesn't count.
Silly FCM. Just because YOU don't like the D doesn't mean all women really secretly don't.
...Seriously, these people are like the Christians who claim that every non-Christian "really" believes in God and know he exists but just choose to ignore him. >.>
@#1671714: That's an adorable little straw man you've brought along there. Do you even read this site at all, or did you just find this page and assume the worst?
Just going to throw this crazy idea out there but maybe there are some women who WANT a penis in their vagina occasionally?
You know, like, maybe even most heterosexual women even? Crazy I know!
men will never be feminist allies because they will never give up PIV.
Most women will never be feminist allies either, for the same reason.
Well, then it's a good thing that a high percentage of women does not listen to shit like this anyways, perhaps because they're, y'know, not fucking insane.
If only I had the hacking prowess, I'd set up the motherfucker with this chick in a date and record the results. That should be hilarious.
and you and all bitch. And I'm not saying bitch casually, the ladies would agree mostly on this shit.
You know you've crossed the lines when feminists are sick of your man-bashing. There are some realities to address and pretending Holly Pockets Mans Forced Labor Camp is the solution to those afraid of cock isn't doing anyone any good.
"literally and more literally"
Speak English much? Define "more literally". Literally being one of those rare absolutes I'd like to know how you think it can be increased. But then again, I think you're afraid if you open a window a cocks gonna get up ya.
I, as a homosexual, can not give up that PIV.
The PIV is too strong for me, a flamer of the highest degree, to resist. My name is Captain fabulous, and I can't stop gettin' that V'.
Most men that I know are not only feminist allies, they ARE feminists. Feminism is about equal rights and opportunities for men AND women, it's not about which positions you like in bed.
I'd say that ownership over women, refusal to grant women adult authority, firing women when they get married, lower salaries in women-dominated professions, victim-blaming after rapes, etc., are the foundation of patriarchy and male privilege, more than positions in bed.
PIV is the usual method of mating in many species, and in most species the men fight over the women's attention, and the women choose the ones they like best (regardless of who won the fights). Female hedgehogs, cats, horses and many other species will seriously harm an unwelcome male.
You'll like bonobos; female bonobos are also "endowed" and they all (regardless of gender) penetrate each other as a way of saying "hello".
Female hyenas are very well "endowed" and could probably perform CIA on a male...
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