Handy #fundie

Handy #fundie christianforums.net

However, due to the fall, there are a lot of things that were unnatural that has become natural. I can think of no better example than that of eating meat. We were created as vegetarians. Eating meat was a direct consequense of the fall. Now, eating meat has become so natural to humans, that we even have developed nutritional needs that are best fulfilled by eating meat. Eating meat is an unnatural thing that has become natural.

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old comment by Zoo

Here's a better topic. Explain to me hypercarnivory. How, in the time you estimate has elapsed since "the fall" until. . . let's go with felids. . . become well known to people (like, what, 1000 years if we're generous), did they become so specialized for eating meat that they eat nothing or almost nothing but? I'm not just talking nutritional requirements here. Explain their teeth (type AND specialization to fit between the cervical vertebrae of their typical prey), short gut, specialized eyes, ears, nose, legs and feet, instinct for stalking and chase, special killing techniques, etc., etc., etc. And explain to me the cheetah (which was known to people at the time we decided on), with -its- even more specialized legs, feet, tail, spine, enlarged nasal passages, increased stride length. Then explain to me the Machairodontines, with their specialized canines, and their completely different specialized killing style due to their specialized canines.

And then we can start on the birds of prey, and whales, and snakes, and crocodilians, and frogs, and. . . .

old comment by Not_you

Huh... in my humble, decade-vegetarian opinion... you're batshit. We've developed enough technology that people can choose whether or not they want to indulge the meat-eating part of their omnivorous self. We didn't used to have such luxury in many cases, which is why we are able to successfully digest so many foods (we're a bit like raccoons in that way). Now that we have to think of the ecological impact of our actions, and the fact that prices of staples have gone out of reach for the poor in the world so it doesn't make sense to waste grains and such by stuffing them into other animals so we can eat those animals, it makes sense.

Your bizarre rationale, on the other hand, does not.

old comment by ME

Actually, though this person may indeed be crazy, in the mythology of the buy-bull, YES indeed it does seem that god intended for (if not every creature) humans to be vegetarian. Even in genesis it says:

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so."

Indeed according to the myth god did not really allow for the eating of meat until after the mythological "fall of man" and the flood. Though his argument does sound like support for evolution......To correct a few things that some have said here though; humans are indeed omnivores. As such, we have a choice. The humane, ecological, environmental, and more ethical choice is indeed vegetarian. We do not need animal flesh to survive. Also, as a vegetarian (or vegan) it is NOT more difficult to get all the protein you need. It is a myth that there is insufficient protein in a vegetarian/vegan diet. Just about every single plant has protein. The key is variety. ...(Also. most other primates are completely vegetarian. There are exceptions; some are even cannibals)..... So, though Handy may indeed be batshit crazy, some of what he says is almost true.

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