(Talking about her husband)
Fitness testing and all that is quashed immediately, usually by making a sexual comment to me. He jokingly treats me like I'm a dim-witted f-ck toy a lot of the time, and despite what feminists will say, I like that. But he's quite capable of being serious with me when it's needed, and we will sit down together in the evening and have really interesting conversations. But I don't think these qualities make him a natural alpha, just a good husband. We were separated not because I no longer loved him or wanted him but because he wouldn't stop sleeping with women that he worked with, had gone to school with, were my friends or coworkers, were his friends' girlfriends, etc ad nauseum.
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He jokingly treats me like I'm a dim-witted f-ck toy a lot of the time, and despite what feminists will say, I like that.
Just because some people don't mind being a doormat, it doesn't mean it applies to everyone, you idiot.
Wait, I just remembered something...
I was browsing through the archives, and found a Radfem Hub quote by a woman named Mary Sunshine.
Now, for the newer users who might not remember any Radfem Hub quotes, Radfem Hub is basically the gender-reversed equivalent of, say, Vox Popoli or The Spearhead: basically Radfem Hub (or RFH for the rest of this post) is a site full of crazy misandrists who hate all men, think they're all horrible evil animalistic misogynist rapists from the day they're born, and would like for them to be either enslaved or else killed. I actually think the specific term used by Mary Sunshine was "male parasitism".
So... what if Sunshine Mary is a gigantic poe? What if Mary Sunshine from RFH and Sunshine Mary are the same person, and Sunshine Mary is just her criticism of male-female relationships - because she thinks that all men are abusive misogynistic scum like SM's alleged "husband" (who I now suspect doesn't actually exist) and that any woman who would enter into a relationship with a man must therefore be an utter masochistic doormat who hates her gender as much as "Sunshine Mary"? Basically, a caricature of how she sees non-RFH women - that is to say, as self-loathing doormats.
Think about it. Mary Sunshine. Sunshine Mary. One thinks men are the scum of the earth. The other is a self-loathing caricature who thinks that about women. And let's be honest; Sunshine Mary cannot fucking be real. Either she's a male misogynist pretending to be a woman to lend weight to his/her misogynistic views, or she's a very angry RFHer who's taking the mickey, as the English say.
Are you describing yourself when you speak of Mr Sunshine Mary, "Mary"?
A tip, boyo; a married man who's sleeping around with every female he encounters is not a good husband, but a lousy excuse for a human being.
He jokingly treats me like I'm a dim-witted f-ck toy a lot of the time, and despite what feminists will say, I like that.
Suuuuuure you do.
We were separated not because I no longer loved him or wanted him but because he wouldn't stop sleeping with women that he worked with, had gone to school with, were my friends or coworkers, were his friends' girlfriends, etc ad nauseum.
If this story is true, and I highly doubt that Sunshine Mary is actually a woman, then he's probably still sleeping around and you're just not intelligent enough to realize it or cowed enough to pretend not to notice.
Wow... Sounds like a storybook marriage. Makes a great case for being a "submissive housewife." If you become a sniveling, anti-woman, brain dead, abuse-taking doormat like "Sunshine Mary" then you too can have such a fabulous relationship! Worship your louse of an abusive, disrespectful husband and learn to love it... Despite what feminists/sane people say, it's what every woman truly wants and deserves!
Here's the problem. If you're actually a woman and what you say is actually true, then you acting like a doormat with boobs is what allows a man (well, a total douchebag of a man) to TREAT you like a disposable object. Which means he feels more free to cheat on you. Absolute power generally attracts assholes and enabling them to have absolute power over you only makes things worse for you. This is what makes feminism (the very thing you despise) such a good proposition: it allows you to stand on equal ground, be more assertive, and be treated like a human being rather than an object. And as a bonus, you can STILL pretend to be a dim-witted f-ck toy as a fun role-playing experience. As long as the husband realizes that it's only fantasy and only in the bedroom, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
"Fitness testing and all that is quashed immediately, usually by making a sexual comment to me. He jokingly treats me like I'm a dim-witted f-ck toy a lot of the time, and despite what feminists will say, I like that."
'sup, Dave. I bet you fap to Hans, the 'Scantily-clad Food Correspondent' on "Nadia G's Bitchin' Kitchen", don't you?!
...and thanks, er... (*voice-over *) 'Yeheshkel Mizrahi' X3
I thought Sunshine Mary had been confirmed to be a male posing as a female?
This really suggests that to be true. >.<
That, or SM is a serious self-loathing masochist (possibly with Stockholm syndrome).
Or, as stated, the alter-ego Poe of Mary Sunshine.
We were separated not because I no longer loved him or wanted him but because he wouldn't stop sleeping with women that he worked with, had gone to school with, were my friends or coworkers, were his friends' girlfriends, etc ad nauseum.
Assuming all this is true, "we were separated" is not quite accurate, is it? You separated from him . Given your ideas of the position of women, what gave you the right to that much autonomy?
While I don't think the theory of Sunshine Mary being a parodist can be discounted, let's also be honest that there are worse marriages than this. For crying out loud, he "jokingly treats [her] like [she's] a dim-witted f-ck toy a lot of the time" and had some affairs. No beating, no mention of drinking, no mention of anything worse I wouldn't want to imagine.
The thought that Sunshine Mary was actually sexually submissive with control fantasies and somehow fell into just the right religion to have her faith match her sexual fantasies (or, possibly looked for just that) isn't that far fetched. She doesn't need to be self-loathing, lack self-respect or have Stockholm Syndrom for that, some people's sexuality just aren't something you can understand, but simply accept.
There's no doubt that Sunshine Mary is a despicable, anti-humanist, anti-feminist fundie waste of oxygon - but there are women who are just that, just like there are men who are just that.
Well, paradoist is definitely looks that way.
That said, my boyfriend likes being treated the same way. IN THE BEDROOM. We're equals in our relationship, but our bedroom antics are just our bedroom antics. We don't let that define our relationship, otherwise you're cruising for abuse or cheating (Like it seems like what's happening to you Mary.)
Sunshine Mary and the Dragon
Reminds me of an old joke...
There's this poor old bloke, down on his luck, walking from place to place looking for work or whatever, dying of hunger and thirst, and he comes upon a pub called "George and Dragon".
Going inside he finds a woman tidying up around the bar and he politely begs her for a small handout; just a swallow of ale, anything.
"Oh, Hell no!', She says. "You just hike your poor old bum arse outside and keep moving. Come back when you have money! Bums. Bah!"
Sadly, he leaves and looks up at the sign.
He goes back inside and finds the woman.
"Could I have a word with George, then?"
Badamamp, badamamp, that, that...
It's sad women like this actually exist, and there's a chance Maury here is actually one.
Oh look! It's sunshine Mary!
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In all seriousness, her husband was a douchebag going by her words, and I feel kind of bad for her. She must have been raised like this, and if she wasn't... damn, man.
There's a reason the "absolute power corrupts absolutely" line rings so true for people. The problem with a belief system that says that half of the marriage partnership needs to be a doormat is that it allows the other half to reign unchecked. Even people who have the potential to be good spouses (not necessarily in this case, since SM's husband sounds like he'd be a dick anyway) can become drunk on power in that kind of situation and become abusive.
> We were separated not because I no longer loved him or wanted him but because he wouldn't stop sleeping with women that he worked with, had gone to school with, were my friends or coworkers, were his friends' girlfriends, etc ad nauseum.
So you divorced him for treating you the exact same way you said women should be treated?
Dude. Dude. DUDE. SERIOUSLY.
"Suppress all womens' basic human rights! Except for mine!" (Assuming she's actually a woman. I'm being generous here, Moonshine Mary.)
In other words, you married a douchebag, you didn't hold the standards you preach, but........ok, never mind.
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