[ You appear to be advocating conformity. ]

Like I said in my previous post, which you seem to have missed. There's a LOT that you miss, isn't there Lily?

One does not have to dress a certain way to be a rebel or a free thinker.

Again, you are the one with the "majority" perspective in this particular debate. I would definitely represent the minority, in voicing my opinion that women need to take far more control of their destinies instead of placing the blame on their circumstance everywhere but themselves. FAR too few women look at their lives, and look at how they could have prevented things from happening. Its far too easier to tout the weak female fanfare & put the blame with the man.

Nevermind that the woman was dressed like a slut. Nevermind that she walked unescorted to her car. Nevermind that her ass was hanging out of her skirt. Nevermind that she completely ignored the reality that we live in. No, she has no control, no responsiblity over her own destiny, she couldn't possibly have presented a more positive image of herself in public, she couldn't possibly have asked a security guard to escort her to her car, she couldn't possibly have locked her doors & windows while at home alone. No, she's the helpless female... that on weekends, goes out to demand equal rights.

I say bullshit. If women want equal rights they need to stop falling back on the "weak female" crap whenever it suits them, and accept responsibility for their own life, for their own destiny, for their own situations.

Typical weak female that you are Lily, you keep putting all the blame on the man. NOWHERE have I said that none of the blame lies with them.

[ You seem to be forgetting - it's not only the "slutty girls" getting raped/assaulted. Grannies in nursing homes and other regular women probably get attacked with greater frequency. ]

I'm not forgetting at all. The point I am trying to make is the very same one you're getting at.

PEOPLE PREY UPON THOSE THEY PERCEIVE TO BE WEAK.

Who are these people? Well, the elderly are one, yes. But aging isn't a choice. Clothing on the other hand IS. Dressing like a skank comes across as having low self-esteem & little self-respect. Its easy enough to make a victim of someone who is already one by their own choice of lifestyle. A woman who is a whore & entertains many men nightly, is far less likely to be believed when she cries rape, than one who doesn't give herself out at every turn. Get it yet?

Just like you said, most women are raped by people they know. And many of these girls are either known to have low self-esteem, known to be defenseless, or known to be sluts. Get it yet?

You're right, rape is about power. Power over the powerless. This is what I"ve been trying to drill into your thick skull all evening. Women are NOT powerless! Women DO have the choice to control their own destiny. Women DO have the choice to put forth a much more positive image, one that shows that they are empowered, and comfortable in their skin, and not afraid to draw attention if attacked. Women DO have the choice to ask security guards to escort them to their cars at night, women DO have the choice to lock their doors and windows.

WHY then, are these women who demand equality, at the same time crying helpless when something does happen to them? ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN LIFE.

Get it yet?

I'm JUST trying to say that women who get treated in a manner according to their own actions and behavior, really need to realize that there ARE things that they can do as preventative measures. And yes, I do feel that if a woman walks unescorted to her car, in a dimly lit underground parking lot, and she's parked on the far side, that IF she DOES get attacked, then yes she is partially responsible. She did have options available to her, to prevent such a thing from occuring, the major one being requesting an escort. As I said previously, we do not live in an age of ignorance.