btw idc what you think about the DPRK, but if it weren’t for their nuclear program the US would have launched another genocidal war by now or would be soon, and such a war with the DPRK would be an absolute bloodbath, with the counterinsurgency potentially making Iraq’s look tiny
like the DPRK is much better prepared for a US invasion than Iraq was and they have been for a while, that ‘hehe their stuff all from the 50s ;P’ bullshit would be proven wrong pretty goddamn quickly in such a scenario lmao (they have a very decent level of modernization and a very large focus on coastal and aerial defense, defensive focus is much greater than offensive)
oh and pleaase cut out that ‘their defiance of sanctions is only hurting their own people uwu’ bullshit, the west would be doing the same shit regardless of their missile tests and so on because their entire strategy surrounding such states is to basically deprive the people of resources in an attempt to try and drive them to revolt, so they can eventually put a compliant government into power
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the US would have launched another genocidal war
The first war having been launched by North Korea and having killed twice as many South Korean civilians as civilians from the North.
their entire strategy surrounding such states is to basically deprive the people of resources in an attempt to try and drive them to revolt, so they can eventually put a compliant government into power
Except that people who are hungry seldom have the energy to rebel; they're more worried about staying alive. Then who comes in to feed them? Those evil people from the West and neighboring countries.
Praising "defiant," ideologically-driven regimes that starve, hound and kill their own people: from the USSR in the 1930s, through Cambodia, Romania, Zimbabwe and Venezuela - the hallmark of the authoritarian left.
It's not widely reported in western news, but the DPRK attacks South Korea and their ships all the time. Why else do you think tensions are so high as they are between North and South Korea?
Also, although North Korea does have a sizable military for its nation, not everyone in the North Korean military is serving for duty, honor, and country. Many are conscripts or people who want a steady flow of food as compared to nothing.
The person doesn't realize that the two biggest reasons that North Korea has been in existence for as long as it has is the Soviet Union and China. Now that the Soviet Union is no longer around to help feed their country and Kim Jong-Un keeps doing stupid crap that annoys China, North Korea isn't going to have the same support it had during the Korean War for much longer.
Despite what tv and press says, the US bases in the Pacific, China, South Korea and Japan have not moved their butts one inch. See how seriously they take North Korea
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Let's think strategically here. DPRK got their ass kicked in the First Korean War until China's zerg rushes bailed their ass out. DPRK military is full of underfed conscripts who'd break extremely fast in an actual war, as scary as they might look. This is a scenario which South Korea has been preparing for literally their entire existence, with US help.
All North Korea could do is bomb South Korean cities, it would be over in a few weeks once the Norks are on the run (if not entirely encircled) and China promptly laughs at them and says "you brought this on yourself".
counterinsurgency potentially making Iraq’s look tiny
Yes, and then South Korea puts one of the halfway sane Kims as a puppet ruler, and this Kim orders them to stop and go back to worshipping him.
Also hard to do an insurgency when you're on constantly on the verge of starvation.
Six degrees of separation and all that: I knew a guy who knew Kim Jong-Il. He told me the only city in NK usually lit at night - and night satellite imagery proves it; go check it out - is Pyongyang, NK's show-city, and it's hard even there to keep the power on. The Kims live well. Their soldiers do NOT...and they're conscripted for ten years.
NK is not in good shape economically. It's not in good shape technologically. These things are part of what make the nation so dangerous; because for all that they lack, it's not impossible to see them using some of Kim's pocket money to buy some warheads after the Soviet Union collapsed.
The soldiers wouldn't jump fence immediately, because they've been so indoctrinated, but I could see NK soldiers surrendering en masse simply because their enemy captors will feed them.
(Oh, and Kim Jong-Un has banned sarcasm. I'm sure that will work out just as well as he hopes...uh huh, I suuure do.)
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