I have actually got into heated discussions with Christians who claim that MOST Christians around the globe believe in evolution and that America is the only place you will find Creationists not believing in it. They also say you can't take Genesis literally. It was all allegory to help the early nitwits...no..er...I mean people who weren't very intelligent to give them an understanding of how everything began. Then when society became more intelligent and we had risen above those early neanderthals in intelligence God revealed through science the way He created. And that was through evolution.
*gag* *cough* *puke*
Sorry......that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth....anyway I do try and respect others opinions but....I will ALWAYS take the Word of God who has the power to preserve His Word throughout the ages over a simple human being who really has no clue to the works and the ways of God.
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I'd suggest a new charity, "Sponser a Fundie," with the goal of sending everyone who believes the bible is the literal, unchanging, inerrent word of god to a real university for a course in biblical scholarship, if I wasn't positive they'd just sit there, covering their ears going "lalala I can't hear you!"
The christian cultures in Europe and elsewhere are at least somewhat more mature and sophisticated than the stereotypical american dirt-street fundie herds.
They can step back from the religion bit and live their own lives, without the Bogeyman's permission.
They have a much healthier attitude toward drunken fornication, as well.
I will ALWAYS take the Word of God who has the power to preserve His Word throughout the ages over a simple human being who really has no clue to the works and the ways of God."
It's pretty hard to learn the works and ways of something that doesn't exist. I like how you trust a book about god to believe that god exists yet you won't listen to people who are real and present you with real facts.
Put scientifc facts in one hand, and the promises of your bible, god/jesus/holy spirit in the other and see which one fills up faster.
That bible is all you got. If you want to believe what's in there over proof and reality, that's fine with me. But you've brought nothing to the table but unfounded claims.
American Christianity is the pathetic little child of the global family of Christendom, the really irritating toddler who whines, screams, carries on like a headless chook, acts like a know-it-all, and never listens when anyone offers correction or guidance.
I will ALWAYS take the Word of God who has the power to preserve His Word throughout the ages over a simple human being who really has no clue to the works and the ways of God.
The word of God? You mean the texts that were written centuries after they supposedly happened, translated numerous times, copied and miscopied for millenia, then interpreted by people who had only the vaguest understanding of the original context?
How you can believe that no "simple humans" affected what you believe now is just amazing.
Oddly, even when I was Christian, I didn't take Genesis literally. (Course, I was catholic, so I wasn't "really" christian...cough.) Hell, in grade 4 I figured out, all by myself, while still believing, that genesis wasn't a "literal" account.
Can I conclude then, that most fundies don't make it past 3rd grade?
".I will ALWAYS take the Word of God...over a simple human being who really has no clue to the works and the ways of God."
So, in other words, you won't ever trust your own opinions on the Bible then? That would be refreshing!
No, I don't think the creation story in Genesis was the invention of "nitwits". I think that people were doing the best they could to understand the world given the information they had at the time. It's a simple fact that we know a lot more about how the universe works today. Sure, the people who came up with the Genesis creation myth were ignorant of much of what we know today, but that is hardly their fault. And there is a difference between being ignorant and being unintelligent. Modern creationists have information that nobody knew thousands of years ago at their fingertips. They don't have the same excuse.
Also, Neanderthals went extinct thousands of years before the Genesis myth was dreamed up.
And, you are wrong if you think all creationists are American. We have a lot more creationists, but we don't have a monopoly on them. Interestingly, some of the more obnoxious creationists in America come from other countries: e.g. Ken Ham is from Australia and Ray Comfort is from New Zealand. A brief plea to other countries: stop sending your nutters and idiots over here! We already have enough of them to deal with as it is.
The actually scary part is that these people control the U.S. military. The "half of the military budget of the whole world" military. Not the enlisted part so much, but they've been stuffing the officers' ranks with true believers for a few decades now -- with the stated intent of turning the U.S. armed forces into the biggest theocratic crusade in history. These are the people that the supposed commander-in-chief lets overrule him on policy decisions.
Guess you're still on Neanderthal level then, Caiper.
I wasn't even aware that there was a controversy about evolution and creation, before I came to FSTDT a year and a half ago.
It's easy really; evolution is science, creation is religion, and never shall the two meet.
Sort of like astronomy and astrology...
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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