What kind of a world do I live in where a man can "marry" another man, sodomize that man for a year, and then go to his employer or the employer of his penis-having "wife," and be awarded money for infertility treatments? Can anyone see how this new law would make an employer less likely to hire a homosexual or a lesbian? Is there anyone who would dare defend this absurd new law? Can anyone question my logical divorce from the insane concept of same-sex "marriage"?
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Your logical divorce is from sanity, kindness, and human decency. Stop thinking about the gay sex and start thinking about people caring for each other, mmkay?
@1598894
Not even in Sweden, no. In Sweden you can't get infertility treatment paid for by your employer, regardless of sexual orientation, as our employers don't pay for medical treatments; that's done through taxes.
I'd say no doctor would prescribe infertility treatments to a same-sex couple, as no medical treatment in the world could help them conceive naturally, yet. They would be offer adoption if both were male, and sperm-donation or adoption if both were female. If surrogate pregnancies were legal where they live, they could all be offered this as well.
Lesbians ARE homosexuals, stupid. You're obviously divorced from sanity.
If the partner is penis-having, he's a husband, not a wife.
Unless she's a male-to-female transgender who hasn't had her operation yet. But, then it's a heterosexual couple, not a gay couple.
Fertility treatments are considered elective procedures, so insurance companies rarely pay for them. Even if they did, they just pay for procedures which are performed. They don't just hand you a large chunk of cash and tell you to go see a doctor. And they're definitely not going to pay for fertility treatments for two male spouses.
Mantronikk does seem to spend a LOT of time worrying about gay sex, same-sex marriage, who does what to whom and so on.
Seems he might be a little more interested in this sodomizing then he lets on.
"What kind of a world do I live in where a man can "marry" another man, sodomize that man for a year, and then go to his employer or the employer of his penis-having "wife," and be awarded money for infertility treatments?"
Y'know...:
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...a civilised one.
Welcome to the 21st Century, o closet cases of 'Heteroseparatist.com'.
@Sangfroid
"Mantronikk does seem to spend a LOT of time worrying about gay sex, same-sex marriage, who does what to whom and so on.
Seems he might be a little more interested in this sodomizing then he lets on."
Not so's you'd notice . [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]
Do yourself a favor and don't read anything else on this ignorant bigot's blog. It's apparent the only reason he created was to bash GLBT people online all he wanted and he says he takes satisfaction in deleting comments there. It must be nice to live in your own little bubble.
Oh, and he says he rejects hatred FOR and FROM the GLBT community, even though he thinks it's perfectly okay to discriminate against them. Ha!
No one is simply handed a check and told to go out and get fertility treatments. If someone has fertility treatments, the bill, if covered, is paid under the terms of the health care plan.
@ #1598894 "Where is this magical land where hetero couples have infertility treatment paid for by their employer." - I know someone who was covered for IVF (maximum two attempts).
And the solution to this idiocy? A "misunderstanding" (maybe disunderstanding describes this better). Mantronikk links to another one of his post, which then links to a WND article which quite clearly states:
<AB 460 would extend the idea of “non-discrimination” to homosexuals and lesbians regarding fertility, allowing them to be classified as “infertile” if they are unable “to conceive a pregnancy or to carry a pregnancy to a live birth after a year or more of regular sexual relations without contraception.”
They would then be eligible for insurance coverage for “treatment of infertility, except in vitro fertilization, under those terms and conditions as may be agreed upon between the group subscriber or the group policyholder and the plan or the insurer.”>
So, not homosexual couples but just homosexuals in general . Also note that in vitro fertilization is not covered which would really only leave heterosexual activity over a period of one year. So the requirements would be that a gay person has sex with straight person of the opposite sex trying to conceive for over a year .
With the exception of bisexual swingers, I have no fucking idea who'd do that.
Being kind, I can only think that this moronic drivel has a therapeutic value for Mantronikk. It's like raging against reality and hoping that it will all go away. He might as well howl at the moon like a forlornly despairing animal.
Oh! The horrible twisted irony of possessing a human brain when all one longs for is a beastly release to go loping off to the woods, snuffling and snarling inarticulately.
Can anyone question my logical divorce from the insane concept of same-sex "marriage"?"
Considering it is not at all logical, yes
Focusing your thoughts on how other people have sex is not mentally healthy. At best it is prurience.
I would also have to question what role employers have in paying for infertility treatment. The legal logic of a man married to another man getting payment for infertility defeats all reason. It is a an impossibility and therefore a nonsense that no court would consider. That you should even think such a thing could happen reinforces the impression you give of being a homophobic bigot. Were you aware of this impression people will get of you?
You should also be aware that not all male homosexual couples engage in what you call sodomy, whereas some heterosexual couples do. But that is their private matter, and none of your business or mine.
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