Writing about Charlie Hebdow shooting:
While there was an outpouring of condemnation of the indefensible massacre across the Muslim world, another question arose: Why were the cartoonists fixated on Muhammad (peace be upon him) who is held in the greatest honor by 1.8 billion Muslims? What purpose is there to distort and disrespect him in the name of freedom of speech? Who in his rightful mind would stoop that low to satirically assault such a noble person?
Satire is the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people’s stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues. Does God’s final Messenger deserve this ridicule and mockery? The answer is simply no. Either the satirists do not have any knowledge of the real, historically documented prophet of Islam or they are guilty of barefaced bigotry and xenophobic hatred.
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"Who in his rightful mind would stoop that low to satirically assault such a noble person?"
The more noble a person is, the more they get satirised.
here the thing: nobody mocked Muhammad in the caricatures as man nor as prophet. his image was used as symbol for certain factions among the ones that claim to follow him.in your own words it was "use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize the stupidity or vices" of the fundamentalists Muslims and the terrorists.
YOU hold him to be this noblest of all people, I simply see a disgusting pedophile, whos image is further used by a bunch of degenerate cretins to spread their foul humanity hating ideology. YOU don`t find the comics funny? Then don`t laugh but by fuck you shall not take away my right to do so.
Let us be exact: Nobody deserves the treatment they get from Charlie Hebdo. Not the schoolgirls raped and impregnated by Boko Haram; not the refugees drowned in the Mediterranean ... nobody. Charlie Hebdo is a stronghold of deliberate swinishness towards the downtrodden. That said,they're still not to be murdered.
Satire is the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people’s stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
In which case, if done well, using the image of the prophet as a means to comment on issues of the day is a very good example of satire. Drawing images of Muhammad/Jesus/Moses/Buddha/Krishna is not topical of itself; these figures died thousands of years ago. It's the behavior of their followers now that is at issue; what better way to reflect the way that fundies distort their own religions than to portray their founders similarly distorted?
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I rest my case.
Satire is the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people’s stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues. Does God’s final Messenger deserve this ridicule and mockery?
Yes. He emphatically and without question does . So do you, for defending a man who married a six-year old child but 'righteously waited' until she was nine to have sex with her. His actions make him a pedophile. Yours make you a pedophilia apologist.
...or they are guilty of barefaced bigotry and xenophobic hatred.
Absolutely correct. It's a trademark of the Abrahamic faiths. You're loaded with it too. For proof, one needs only ask how you feel about people who practice other religions.
The CH people (or at least many of them) probably had their own reasons, but you'd be quite right about many, including those bigots in Texas. I doubt any of them have studied the prophet and his teachings in any objective detail.
That said, there ain't nobody in history, no matter how objectivley good and virtuous and pure, that some ignoramus or dick will disagree out of ignorance, design or just pure malice. It is, unfortunatley, a product of our biological nature that some humans will always be 'bad' when compared to those who are 'good'. Just something we have to live with.
"Satire is the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people’s stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.”
Not really.
It wasn't just Mohammed, they also often lampooned Jesus if I'm not mistaken. However, you didn't see a bunch of Christians showing up at their offices with AK-47's.
The Muslim extremists really need to learn about the Striesand Effect, because before the terrorist attack happened, I'm guessing most people never even heard of Charlie Hebdo. I know I hadn't.
"Does God’s final Messenger deserve this ridicule and mockery?"
Yes. For the rape of a child, setting a precedent that has been used as justification for the rapes and marriages of millions of little girls, for the repeated re-writing of marriage laws (oops, "revelations") so that he could get the various women that he wanted, for saying it's okay to rape female prisoners of war and slaves, for making women suffer stifling covering out of petty jealousy and desire to control, and for the responsibility for countless other means of suffering of women in the Muslim world, yes. Emphatically, yes.
Does God’s final Messenger deserve this ridicule and mockery?
Yes. Yes, he does. Everyone and everything deserves to be ridiculed and mocked. That includes, but is not restricted to Mohammed, Jesus, any god, Buddha, Peter Gabriel, Mother Theresa, Satan, Hitler, the Brady Bunch, Lincoln, the first homo sapiens, He-Man, Charles Darwin, gravity, your mother, the Simpsons, chairs, Plan 9 From Outer Space, dinosaurs, my mother, vol. 2 of The History Of Bean Planting or Amazing Fantasy no. 15. If someone or something cannot withstand ridicule or mockery, it isn’t worth much, isn’t it?
Not fundie, honestly. He's neither defending the gunmen nor saying that Charlie Hebdo should be punished.
The western world is pretty much free speech country, and will continue to be so, so you and Mohammed better get over it. There is no reason to tiptoe around your poor little sensitivities. That would be allowing YOUR religion to be the arbiter of taste and blasphemy for ALL THE REST of us, and that is not going to happen! That is a line that we WILL NOT observe. Religion (this is important, Islam!) is a thing that YOU observe if YOU choose, and others get to make their OWN decisions about it. If you want freedom of religion, you've gotta GIVE freedom of religion.
I don't see any purpose in mocking Mohammad, who's been dead for over 1,300 years. Now mocking modern wack-job Muslims, that's another matter.
Charlie Hebdo did cartoons of Jesus & Bible God, too and Christians didn't storm the place and kill people.
If you're offended, fine. Don't read Charlie Hebdo! Don't watch South Park ! Don't watch anything where Mohammed is shown!
And while you're at it, don't look at those beautiful, Islamic, Muslim-made medieval-period art pieces with Mohammed pictured....[IMG]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/Spiritual%20and%20Religious/Mohammed_kaaba_1315_zps9e94f6eb.jpg[/IMG]
If you're a devout Muslim and someone drew a pic of Mohammed, nobody's forcing you to look at it!
To you're credit, at least you recognize the massacre for the horrible action it was.
I'll put you in the "Frummy but not CRAZY-frummy" category.
My idea of satire involving Mohammed would involve Mohammed beheading a Daesh terrorist.
++"Who in his rightful mind would stoop that low to satirically assault such a noble person? "
Someone who recognized that your prophet is about as noble as the diseased shit of a peasant's weakest goat.
@ Reynardine
Woah! I assumed that Charlie Hebdo was a bunch of cool rebels who "stuck it to the Man" via cartoons. However, if they're doing nasty cartoons about victimized people then they just come across as a bunch of scummy antisocial trolls than genuine satirists speaking out against injustice.
A cartoon making light of the Boko Haram kidnap victims: NOT COOL!
But like you said, even still, they don't deserve to get murdered.
http://www.quora.com/What-was-the-context-of-Charlie-Hebdos-cartoon-depicting-Boko-Haram-sex-slaves-as-welfare-queens
The CH cartoonists weren't fixated on Mohammed particularly.
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It's the Muslim world (or rather part of it) that is fixated on their cartoons.
And yes, anyone who describes themselves - or is routinely described as - "God's final messenger" deserves ridicule and mockery, along with all God's previous (and subsequent) "final messengers".
If you think that Charlie Hedbo was racist and didn't like their work and found it offensive. Fine, that's perfectly fair.
However if you think that your belief should be beyond criticism that is not reasonable. Everything is worthy of criticism and mockery. It'd be simpler to say, "I don't like Charlie Hedbo but it was still awful what happened to them."
Why were the cartoonists fixated on Muhammad (peace be upon him) who is held in the greatest honor by 1.8 billion Muslims?"
They weren't. Charlie Hebdow is a satire magazine it makes fun of everyone. It actually pokes fun of politics and Christianity far more often than Islam.
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