narutokun1 #fundie

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(in response to xiao-feng-fury's question as to why a baby should not be aborted)

1. The baby is human
2. The baby is not an it
3. The baby is not an animal
4. The baby has EVERY human rights as the baby should.
5. Abortion = Murder
6. God does not support murder
7. Babies = Purity
8. God loves purity
9. Abortion includes dissecting the bodies which is a great disgust to God.
10. The baby mainly is paying for a sin that the baby did not commit.
11. I call it literal man-slaughter
12. It's treating the baby like an animal
13. It's treating the baby like an it
14. It's destroying God's most precious possession.
15. It's destroying a beginning life just so the already dying ones could live.
16. I also refer it to as massacre.
17. Abortion = Murder and Murder = Sin
18. It's an abomination to God.
(I'll think of more soon.)

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old comment by Sanity

1,2,3,4,5 - An embryo or fetus is not a baby. Babies should have rights, embryos should not.

6 - Have you actually read your bible?
7 - What happened to your concept of original sin?
8 - Please provide proof that your God exists.
9 - No they're not, also do you reject modern medicine on these grounds as well? If not, you're a hypocrite.
10 - It's not a baby, it's an embryo. Also, isn't every human, according to your bible?
11 - I call Christians theistards, so what?
12 - It's not a baby, it's an embryo. Also, does that mean it's fine to kill animals?
13 - It's not a baby, it's an embryo.
14 - Most abortions are natural, "god" kills ten times as many embryos as humans do.
15 - So is not having sex 24 hours of the day.
16 - I refer to the bible as a book of fairy tales, again, so what?
17 - No it's not, and sin a fictional contruct that has no bearing on reality
18 - Please provide proof that your God exists.

Did I mention it's not a baby, it's an embryo?

old comment by anonymous

7 & 8: Original sin.
9. Medical science largely involves dissecting bodies. You're not the one doing it, however, so you have no right to complain.
10. It would pay more if it were born.
11. I call it abortion... these are just names.
14. God has billions of them.
15. And make more babies. Suppose a mother has to get an abortion to save her life. Then later she has two more children who are healthy and well-cared for because she is in a much better position to care for them. By your logic, we must give her the chance to live and try again.
16. I also refer to your mom as your face. So?
17. Fetuses aren't sentient, I don't believe it can properly be called murder.
18. Gee, sorry.

old comment by Shadoboy

1. The baby is not human yet
2. Uh?
3. We're all animals, Homo sapiens sapiens
4. Apparently, until they are born
5. Getting rid of a few undeveloped cells? Then menstruation is murder too.
6. Tell that to the people drowned in the great flood
7. Aren't we ALLsupposed to be sinners?
8. But he's pretty bloodthirsty, too
9. WTF?
10. And we're STILL paying from the original sin!
11. But when God does it, it's okay!
12. The same as 1
13. Ditto
14. Apparently, God loves kids that live in misery and hated by their parents.
15. Let's kill old people and harvest their organs, then.
16. I refer to you as Narutard. Your point is...?
17. God had murdered a lot of children in the Bible
18. The BIBLE is an abomination to the Lord.

old comment by Darwin's Lil' Girl

The baby is human

Well, hopefully a human wouldn't concieve a fish.

The baby is not an it

Everything is an "it". "It" just isn't specific.

The baby is not an animal

We're fungi, then?

The baby has EVERY human rights as the baby should.

I could vote while in the whomb? Oh wait, I couldn't. I WASN'T A BABY UNTIL I WAS BORN.

Abortion = Murder

And God = murderer

God does not support murder[/b

Got looooves murder.

Babies = Purity

Isn't there some sect of Christianity that believes all babies are filthy evil sinners?

God loves purity

Support this with evidence. Besides, if God loved purity, we would always remain pure.

Abortion includes dissecting the bodies which is a great disgust to God.

God seems to have no trouble with doing it himself though.

The baby mainly is paying for a sin that the baby did not commit.

If I abort because it would be unsafe for me to carry the baby to term, my infertility is a sin? If my baby would be born such that it would die soon after, they sinned simply through chance?

I call it literal man-slaughter

People say Shakespeare is unintelligible. Saying something is so does not in any way make it so.

It's treating the baby like an animal

So we should be treating them as plants?

It's treating the baby like an it

We're all "its".

It's destroying God's most precious possession.

God does that all the time on his own anyway.

It's destroying a beginning life just so the already dying ones could live.

If they die before the baby is born, the baby dies anyway, and one less person in the world exists to have more children.

Going with this same logical fallicy, what if a woman dies not aborting a baby who turns out to be a mass murderer while a baby she would have had if she lived would grow up to end world hunger?

I also refer it to as massacre.

People refer to me by a misspronunication of my name. Does that mean my name isn't what it really is just because people call me something different?

Abortion = Murder and Murder = Sin

In that case, your god is a sinner. Don't trust him.

It's an abomination to God.

Hey, God would do anything to have more people killed.

You repeat too many point and use too many logical fallacies. You fail.

old comment by Osiris

1. Fair enough. But a fetus is not a baby and you should not confuse them.
2. I don't know what you mean by this.
3. Wrong. Humans are animals whether you accept this fact or not.
4. I agree.
5. I disagree because a fetus isn't a baby. Abortion kills fetus' not babies.
6. Unless God orders said murder. Which apparently he does quite a bit.
7. Massive leap in logic.
8. Again.
9. What about C-sections? Or just any fucking surgery for that matter? And where did you get this from anyway?
10. Fair enough, except this isn't a baby.
11. I thought you called it murder.
12. A baby is an animal because humans are animals but it doesn't matter because FETUS' AREN'T BABIES!!!
13. What does that even mean?!?
14. Fuck this. I'm out.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"1. The baby is human
2. The baby is not an it
3. The baby is not an animal
4. The baby has EVERY human rights as the baby should.
5. Abortion = Murder
6. God does not support murder
7. Babies = Purity
8. God loves purity
9. Abortion includes dissecting the bodies which is a great disgust to God.
10. The baby mainly is paying for a sin that the baby did not commit.
11. I call it literal man-slaughter
12. It's treating the baby like an animal
13. It's treating the baby like an it
14. It's destroying God's most precious possession.
15. It's destroying a beginning life just so the already dying ones could live.
16. I also refer it to as massacre.
17. Abortion = Murder and Murder = Sin
18. It's an abomination to God.
(I'll think of more soon.)"

I can help you with the last line, dear: Including the 19 children retroactively aborted by the right-wing Fundamentalist Christian Timothy McVeigh when, in 1995, he detonated the bomb outside the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.

(*performs a 'Partronise You no Jutsu'; pats narutokun1 on head*)

Now you go back to your Fisher-Price© 'I Can Kill George Tiller Too!'® Playset dear, the adults are talking.

old comment by Fompili

1. Yes, except if it's a baby animal we're talking about, and except for the fact that all humans are basically animals...

2. An IT what? IT technician? A baby is definitely a bit young to be a technician.

3. Well, no, except if it is, see #1.

4. You have to been born to be a baby and enjoy said rights.

5. No.

6. Your Christian god does.

7. Come on now, born with the original sin or pure at birth? Make up your mind.

8. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. Who can tell when we aren't even sure if god exists.

9. No, it doesn't. But OK, no surgery of any kind for you.

10. Which baby? We're talking about fetuses here.

11. And I simply don't care what you call it.

12. See #1. But we're not discussing a baby here.

13. Again, what does IT have to do with this?

14. I thought your god's most precious possession was heathens' blood.

...

I'll stop here, since you didn't consider the most important question: "HOW BABBY FORMED?" You see, babby formed by first being fetus, then later on becoming babby. So your list is meaningless. When you get that through your head we can re-discuss it.

“1. The baby is human”
As human as the Caananites God told Israel to slaughter?

“2. The baby is not an it”
What if i don’t know the thing’s pronouns?

“3. The baby is not an animal”
Whoops, sorry, that’s a fail.

“4. The baby has EVERY human rights as the baby should.”
No, the 14th Amendment specifically says it applies to those born in the US. So not those benefits.

“5. Abortion = Murder”
That’s the question, though, you’re just repeating an assertion.

“6. God does not support murder”
God sent two bears to tear into 42 kids for taunting a prophet. God’s a bloodthirsty asshole.

“7. Babies = Purity”
Aren’t we all born in sin?

“8. God loves purity”
God’s the one who decided we all share in Adam and Woman’s sin.

“9. Abortion includes dissecting the bodies which is a great disgust to God.”
Okay, so we ban THOSE forms of abortion.

“10. The baby mainly is paying for a sin that the baby did not commit.”
Look up original sin, dummy.

“11. I call it literal man-slaughter”
Manslaughter is different from murder.

“12. It's treating the baby like an animal”
We’re all animals, bubbles.

“13. It's treating the baby like an it”
Ever been to boot camp? Humans do that a lot.

“14. It's destroying God's most precious possession.”
Who gives a shit?

“15. It's destroying a beginning life just so the already dying ones could live.”
I feel much the same about school shootings, but it’s so the already rich can get richer. However that opinion does bupkes to gun proliferation.

“16. I also refer it to as massacre.”
YOU can refer to it as a pirate orgy, makes no actual impact on the question.

\”17. Abortion = Murder and Murder = Sin”
You’ve said that, it’s not a really useful talkin gpoint.

“18. It's an abomination to God.
(I'll think of more soon.)”
This is the god that killed first-born men and cattle for his own glory, right?

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