I was told by a checkout clerk at Target that someone grabbed a Black Series Slave Leia action figure off the shelf and complained to her about it. I think it had something to do with it not being "empowering" to girls. The main problem seems to be that this was an unpopular, overproduced figure which sat on the shelves for a year or more, giving the wrong people enough time to see it.
Good point on the name for the costume. I always insisted in the '90s it should be called Palace Dancer Leia, not Slave Leia. But I don't think that's the main issue. This is driven by the fresh wave of politically correct, censor-happy liberal feminism that's in vogue now. Going by their logic, all women should be covered up in burkas because then we could appreciate them for their minds only and not their bodies. This is one of the few times where the most liberal feminists and the most conservative religious people are in total agreement on an issue. Then you can add into the coalition the ugly and out-of-shape women who simply want to remove the beauty contest from the social competition entirely for purely self-serving reasons.
Nevertheless, like most liberalism, this is all based on the denial of basic human nature. We live and prosper as a species because we have very positive feelings about our bodies and our sexuality. If we censored and suppressed all of that like puritans, we would become a dead species. It's utterly ridiculous to be ashamed of a large part of who we are. It's shameful to cover up and deny that which we naturally find beautiful. Once again, the culture suffers because men are not active in defending their interests and their rights. Men as a group are not organized as a political force. We as men, along with all reasonable women, need to stick together and hold our ground against this irrational insanity.
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It is not that bad until the third sentence of the second paragraph. It then veers straight into nutty territory.
The last sentences are laughable. Check the political personnel of Western countries. How feminized are those? Same applies for corporations. So, nope, men are not the poor victims of feminism the OP describes.
The main problem seems to be that this was an unpopular, overproduced figure which sat on the shelves for a year or more
You have no clue how retail actually works. If there's an unpopular product which isn't selling, it doesn't stay on the shelves for a year or more.
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You can't tell me that this product didn't sell well among Star Wars nerds. But I agree, it's not the best figure to promote empowerment among girls.
@Doubting Thomas
You know, not EVERYTHING has to be empowering to girls. Strong women can handle the presence of a 3 inch action figure of a scantly clad 1980's movie character without needing a fainting couch on hand.
There's plenty of stuff that is disempowering to any group. Deal with it. We ALL live in a world that isn't designed to cater to whatever subculture you're part of.
@OP
I haven't heard of anyone other than Islamic fundies calling for burkas.
No, the Slave Leia figure is not empowering for girls, on the other hand, Leia proved to that overgrown slug that she was still a badass be choking the life out of him with the very chains he had bound her with, that was wonderful.
First, "I think it had something to do with..." does not sound like a comment that necessarily represents reality. This is second-hand info that serves as fodder for a rant that may have nothing to do with the complaint.
Second, the comment is one shopper in a Target store. So what? It's one person's opinion.
A lot of this is wrong and a fevered dream of what feminism or liberalism is about.
Not sure it's fundie either. Anti-feminism, OK, but he does not call for mistreatment of women, or whatever.
Meh.
Well, it's called "Slave Leia" because when she was in that outfit, Leia was Jabba the Hutt's slave. Then she choked him to death with her chain. I'd call that empowering.
I am, however, amazed that this somehow led to "Men should be politically organized, and everyone needs to be sex-positive". The how, on the other hand (a briar patch of stupidity) is unsurprising.
Support the anti-puritanical sex-positive stance. Just wondering what this guy had to drink to get there.
It never happened.
I dare you to find a feminist who hasn't seen the first Star Wars trilogy and fully understand how awesome Leia is, no matter what she's wearing. There may be a very few surviving, but they are so old that you will have to get permission from their caretakers to visit. A feminist is more likely to complain about the wide array of nonfunctional armor female comic and game characters are cursed with.
WHAT?! Liberals are sexual prudes who like burkhas?!!! What planet is this guy from?!!!
Also, we're not all Andrea Dworkin. A good chunk of feminists are very sex-positive.
Also, what a way to completely miss the point about "Slave Leia"! SHE WAS BEING KEPT AS A SEX SLAVE BY JABBA THE HUTT YOU DINGBAT!!!
That said, it's a cool sexy costume and she subverted the "sex slave" thing by strangling that giant slug with her chain! Leia is awesome! Whenever in a "damsel in distress" role, she subverts it every time, escapes herself and takes no prisoners!
This is pretty tame, but to be fair to the submitter:
> I always insisted in the '90s it should be called Palace Dancer Leia, not Slave Leia.
Yeah, except that she was forced to do it, and treated like property, and, therefore, a slave. But other than that, "slave Leia" is a terrible name for that figure.
@Paler_Face
You know, not EVERYTHING has to be empowering to girls.
True, I'm just saying that I can understand why certain feminists were upset over it.
Not all that fundy. While I suspect he has some less than pleasant views on women, a lot of what he argued can be seen in various corners of the Internet. While I've never seen any feminist arguing for burqas (neither do American conservatives, though, but that hasn't stopped us from suggesting they would like it), I've seen quite a few who suggest that any enjoyment of the female form is "problematic". In fact, the second paragraph is pretty accurate.
The third paragraph I would also agree with, but that's where the guy starts going from reasonable critique of certain people on the left to showing how disturbing he might be.
Meh all around. Grabbing it off the shelves and complaining to the cashier is an overreaction, but a tolerable one (Seriously, though, why does everybody complain to the cashier? They have very little ability to change things) and the rest would be standard MRA overgeneralization except: 1. there are actually a few good points in there, and 2. it's not really funny, or sad, it's just...mildly annoying. I can't bring myself to feel strongly about either side of this.
I am what you would refer to as a 'Liberal' (yet, I vote Labour ; Liberal Democrat =/= left -wing, but 'middle-of-the-road), yet I have on one of my shelves this figurine:
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Of Fate T. Harlaown from "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS". Specifically from the scene where she battles two of the 'Numbers' prior to taking out the evil Dr. Jail Scaglietti; all to the tune of "Pray" by Nana Mizuki, who also voices Fate in the series.
If you'd watched that particular scene, where she uses Bardiche in 'Zamber Mode': an energy blade that can cut through dimensions , then you'd see female empowerment taken to the next level.
£65 well spent on that figurine, I'd say.
@Doubting Thomas
Some feminists are outraged by EVERYTHING, because EVERYTHING is sexist/misogynist/problematic.
A chair? PATRIARCHY/RAPE/MISOGYNY/WHATEVER!
I'm just getting really tired of modern feminist outrage.
I don't understand why you would complain to the cashier, they can't do jack! In context, slave Leia was a bad add, but I will admit the popularity of that figure makes me a bit uncomfortable. It's an example of a wider problem in Sci-Fi in general. I've tried to read a few Sci Fi books, and just can't get past the creepy, casual sexism that pervades a lot of sci fi. So, slave Leia is not as much a problem as the other images it evokes.
Of course that costume isn't empowering, that's the point: she has been captured, enslaved and forced to wear that fetishy bikini by a creature that is considered a depraved pervert even by the standards of a species of hermaphroditic, slobbering giant slug-people leaning toward Always Chaotic Evil for his/its taste for humanoid females. And guess what? She doesn't need some special outfit to be powerful, as she demonstrates when she chokes the life out of the perverted slug.
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