(comments posted regarding IVF being denied to obese women)

"It's ok for lesbian's but not fat woman. Who decides who can and can't have a baby? We aren't living in China but we have the Chinese humanistic framework. A godless pagan Australia indeed." - dobs

"Annually in Australia between 88,000 and 120.000 potential Australian citizens are killed legally before they are born. Science agrees that human life begins at conception but their ethic is; is this situation worth the potential problems whatever that might be. Abortion is ethical today but ethical in contrast to what? Buddhism and science where there is no personality? No it is ethical in contrast to the biblical position of the Bible with its absolutes. Without absolutes humanity cannot know anything for sure despite what our observations tell us. I can see a tree touch it and climb it but if intellectually there are no absolutes, then I can never prove I have seen a tree despite our observations. Rules like this can only be accepted into society where there is already a context for this kind of reasoning. This reasoning the thinkers call postmodernism or more particularly the post-Christian context where everything is relative to the individual. This happens when the Bible has largely been rejected by any society as the absolute standard on everything. " - Hona Wikeepa