Scrod #sexist

We have talked about the website and the research and other studies regarding false rape claims in several other threads, they are no more than false claims for any other crime. That in and of itself should be telling.
Even if you doubled or tripled the false crime statistics, it does not hold a candle to the amount of actual rapes or reported rapes.

But the problem is that it's very hard to prove rape. If someone shoots and kills someone else, that's a crime. All the police have to do is prove who shot the gun. If two people have sex, it's not inherently a crime unless one didn't consent. And when you have two people entering a room together, drunk (usually), and one person leaves the room saying rape but with muddled memories, and the other person leaves the room saying not rape (also with muddled memories), it's hard to prove guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt." And that's what our system is built on.

To look at the other cause celebre of the moment, cop killings, there's a similar dynamic there. Cops are tasked with capturing criminals and they are routinely allowed to use force when they feel like their life is in danger. When they shoot someone it's very hard to prove that their life wasn't in danger.

The issue is really not that people want to see rapists get off. It's that we really can't tell which people are rapists and which aren't, and we don't want to put innocent people in jail. Our system is built on "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt" and to me that makes total sense (a system where you have to prove your innocence any time you're accused of something would be a pretty irrational one).

And as to the comment of "she went in the room, she deserved it" (which may be a straw man idk), no, she didn't deserve it. But unfortunately that's a possible consequence of this behavior, which sucks. It's something you want women to be aware of - if it's late at night, and you go into a bedroom with a guy, and he rapes you, you're going to have a very hard time proving it and he'll probably get off. It sucks, but it's the truth. Again, not saying if she does that, she deserves it - things happen to people that aren't deserved all the time, that's kind of a fact of life. It's a possible outcome to be aware of, and honestly, warned about.

And no one knows how many "actual rapes" there are. We do know reported rapes, and we know how many people fill out a survey saying they've been raped and we have no way to verify the veracity of their claims.

This is an especially big issue on college campuses where men and women are, first of all, 18, so still very young and immature, they go away to college where they are living on their own for their first time ever, and then everyone proceeds to get blitzed every Thursday and Saturday, and there's all sorts of sexual activity happening between people who have lowered inhibitions because of alcohol. It's really not a simple issue.



So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!

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