damn gay people taking over the world we must stop them i say we bomb canada to start

As I have said before, I read all I could on Evolution when I was younger (don't want to brag, but I feel that I actually know more about evolution than most atheists do), and compared it to the message in the Bible, well, for me, the Bible makes more sense. Really, if you looked at the cell, the most basic fundemental part of the body, and you say that it was created by chance, well, you are a moron.

I never did understand the whole falsifiable thing. Why take stock in an idea that might be wrong?

... during noahs flood this [water canopy] came crashing down on the earth, so water came down from the heavens and also up from the gorund as great fissures of under ground water came up...where did the waters receede to? dont know off hand but i do know that they did...obvuisly because dry land exsists! =D

also i would like to again point out how many times evolutionists have had to change thier doctrine. and that God remains unchanged =D if creationsism is a dead horse then why should evolution change so many times due to our resaerch.

It's the demon that possesses them... The homosexuals aren't in love. They rape each other, tearing each other's asses. You think that's love? You think that's natural? That's two demons working mutually to destroy the bodies of the humans they hate so much. You don't believe any of it. It's all fanatic b.s, right? You read the Bible and think, 'B.S.' It's gibberish. Of course, you couldn't understand it. They're already under your skin... Tell me, do you hear things sometimes? Do you hear the voice(s)? They want you.

God asks that we first beilive and then we will see...as oppose to the perverse and backwards way of thinking today which i s'seeing is beliving'... you should try it and find out for yourself instead of making assumptions.

yes i have taken a biology course. and am aware the evolution is a 'process' but it is a process by which organisms 'evolve' or adapt to thier enviroment blah blah blah...where in the process should lay is in dna thats the point. because dna should contain the ability of evolution but it does not. what dna does show is that it supports the creation model.

the mere fact that energy comes into this open system from the sun doesnt even begin to explain how complexity can occur. its like a bull ina china shop. people (creationists) ussualy do make straw men arguments against evolutionist using the 2nd law...but its only strawmen because its not complete.

I was thinking about evolution and the many scientific laws it violates, and I realized the biggest law it violates- Murphy's Law. Murphy's Law is that 'if anything can go wrong, it will.' You would have to agree with me that Murphy's Law is a fundemental aspect of everyday life- the bread pops out of the toaster, and falls on the floor. The light turns red as you pull up to the intersection. The plane is delayed due to bad weather. The computer is contaiminated with a virus because you were downloading a bunch of sh*t of a Kazaa. Murphy's Law is the law of chaos, of disorder. Everything goes downhill. However, evolution has to go against this disorder in the universe. That's the point- something from nothing, life form nonlife, order from chaos.

so if what you are saying is that the first life organisms did not require oxygen at the time but later evolved to incorperate oxygen, then how could evoultuon at the cellular level have occured keeping the organism alive? what i am trying to say is...during evolution the organism would die during the information change in cells as they switch 'jobs'

good science will use the scripture as a giude to faster achievement of true and proper results as the bible has alot to say regarding things of scientific nature. it would be kinda like a giude book by which experiments are done and thinking is done... in other words good science the search for truth will find the bible correct always because it is Truth.

well sir i do have to admit you have apoint when it comes to 'which god created'... so lets refer to the Word of God which says that Jesus is the Way the Truth and the life no man comes to the Father but by Him. Also those who diligently seek the Truth with all thier heart shall find Jesus because He will not hide from them. thats the only way i can think of right now to decipher the Creator God from falseys =D

... science is a poor substitue because it is largely based on the logic of man which is flawed... science which uses Gods logic as oppose to mans is a good science, (which acknowledges that everything in the bible is true)

mans logic is flawed because when used does not always produce accurent results or truth, you cannont always reason things correctly. example: we say the butler killed mrs smith... but actually she died of natural causes... you see we can reason and detuct and think all we want. but that wont always produce the truth. this is probably the best reason as to why its flawed. it doesnt help the fact that we cannont tell truth from lie in and of ourselves.

lol we are very open to new discoveries and evidence...of course anything we can find to support creation is what we look for, we always keep in mind 'discoveries and claims' to support evolution so that God through us can debunk it.

in short that [Hebrews 11:3] is Gods Word agreeing with the first law of thermodynamics. the curse God placed on creation is of course the implimation of the 2nd law.

See, living fossils (like the coelcanth and the Loch Ness monster) prove that there haven't been millions of years, because if there had been millions of years, such creatures would have died long ago, or at least have evolved into a new form... Just a thought.

if we are to use Gods logic for things....might as well use His definition of things as well... hard hearted is one of Gods terms that describes rebellious refusal of Truth. number 1 i think God has more credibility then a dictionary, number2 these things must be taken in context.

[Replying to 'good science is that which explains the world around us, whether or not it agrees with scripture"]and you know this is true because how? why?

...'i could say' 'i could say' 'i could say' im really not interested in what you could say the Lord Jesus Christ is Lord with or without my aproval

The Holocaust- caused by evolution Soviet Death Purges- caused by evolution Extreme Nationalism- caused by evolution Modern Racism- caused by evolution Conflicts of religion are caused by misunderstandings between religions- not the religion itself. However, a theory that advocates survival of the fittest and that races are superior to others is, well, offensive.

the first law is violated because evoution does not have an explanation for the origination of matter and energy. its a case of 'you dont know, so what you dont know hurts you'

eru good science is not intersted in your baised opniouns of it against the Word of God, because it can be said that science is the search for truth.

[Explaining why Mosaic law allowed some rape victims to be stoned]Naturally, it's not obvious now, but then if a woman (virgin woman) is having sex with someone with no effort in getting away even though she's in a well-populated area, she was probably just screwing with the political power of her household (because rape was a primarily political act).

never said snowflakes didnt violate entropy

huge amounts of evidence do not point towards science in dis-chord with scripture psuedo science on the other hand....welll...=D

the universe is upheld by the hand of God, always has been it would not have fallen apart, and friction doesnt denote the 2nd law, as the escaped heat would have been recycled

Ok evolutionist claim the world is billions maybe evan trillions of years old right? WRONG! First lets look at world population growth. The world increses at about 2% a year... in one million years... there would have been 10 (to the 2100 power) people somehow stacked on this earth.

Have you ever experianced it? NO? Then shut up cause you have no idea what the hell your talking about... Like i said it [speaking in tongues] sounds like Jibberish but it is not.

as i stated before it wasent actualy scientific proof. It is proof acording to mine and 40 other peoples experiance that night. 40 people cant all have been wrong.

Proof of God... I am here to prove that God dose exsist. No i dont have physical evidence... my churches youth group went on a retreat this weakend... we started some heavey prayer along with some very spiritual songs... There were some 40 + people on this reatreat... Everyone had there own unique experiance. I myself Rested... There were alot of cryers and a couple of laughers... Everyone that went up there unsure came back 100% positive that there is a God.

What the hell are you talking about? We dont black mail anyone we say this to try and convince you that Atheism is wrong.

Another thing I just found out. I got that information (how scientists measure radiometric dating [and its limitations]) out of a book... the source of that statment, an article from the Annals of New York Academy of Science, volume 288... The[ir] website...has almost every single volume of that magazine- except volume 288! They know. They know that if a creationist got ahold of that sort of information... there will be hell to pay. Sure, it sounds like an Evil Atheist Conspiricy like WinAce has on his homepage- but I think that's what it is.

Like i said before God cannot be proven with science. Pluse God has been proven several times in the bible.

The big bang theroy is pretty much disproven. Hardly any one that actually studies it belives in it. Its obvious it never happend. When has an explosion ever caused perfict balance? Never! Every exsplosion know to man has caused chaos and disorder so why should this be any differint? Pluse if there was some gigantic explosion how come were not still flying uncontrolable through space if there is nothing to stop us?

1 reason why you need God huh? Hell ring a bell?

Stop saying you need physical proof. Just look around you. You really belive all of this came from a tiny cell? that is totaly and utterly bull shit... We are positioned the perfect distance from the sun. and you think this happend by chance? HA ya right.

[Replying to (paraphrased) 'Could all the billions of non-Christians be wrong?']Yes they very well could be.

hello........uh.....im new  1. where did all the matter in the universe come from?  2. how did life originate?  3. why do creationists say that evolution viloates 4 known laws (1rst and 2nd law of thermodynamics, law of cause and effect, and law of biogenesis)?  4. also why do creationsist say that evolution doesnt qualify to be a theory? and that special creation however does...?...  7.how come we see that there is evidence for a global flood if iy aint true?  8. why are you blind to the Truth by your rebellious sin nature and hardend hearts?  9. why say that stuff coming from creationists websites is junk, and push peer reviwed articles, when you quote talkorigins?

From a Christian perspective, demonic activity is more than sufficient to explain the numerous religions.

Ya that book [The Da Vinci Code] is evil. Just because some of the facts in there are true people are gonna read it and think all the things about it are true.

[Replying to (paraphrased) 'where did you get this?!]All over. I got over 100 sources but id rather not post them seeing as how it would take FOR EVER

You are just trading one god (Yahweh or Allah, Brahman or Zeus, Gaia or Ishtar, whatever you call Him/Her/It) for another (evolution). However, evolution doesn't judge, has no real purpose, and is a systematic process instead of a personal or even impersonal spirit.

OMG.. You people really don't know much about religion these days. God made the universe. The mixing of chemicals? What the heck are you talking about? You actually think chemicals made us and the world, the universe, the creatures, all the order and design that God has made?! READ GENESIS FROM THE BIBLE! WoW.. Wasnt that hard!

Omg this thread is so gay. I'm glad I never come to this forum, for I would have lost all of my beliefs from realist bitches. Can't you just leave the religious people alone. Is it against the fucking law to have beliefs, no matter how unrealistic they may seem to you cunts?

OK, so the Earth is round. So what? Does that void the rest of the book... BTW, those references about the flat earth could have been added [to the Bible] during the Middle Ages by superstitious Europeans.

The calflick church is not christian. They are worse then atheists cause they do evil disguised in the name of Christ. They are a pagan church just like the rest of the churches.

All of that shit is from pagan religions. In fact the calflick church was originally the pagan church of rome, they only made small changes to their religion to try and make it christian... And dont forget all the other churches - plentycostfull, looterans, badtists, methodust, etc etc... all the same BS religions but a little different.

... that image [parodying creationists, <a href="http://users.rcn.com/rostmd/winace/pics/index.htm#copying_misinformation">see here</a>] is a little inaccurate, since it depects a lizard leaping from the webpage and then transforming into a bird mid-leap into the brain. That is an evolutionist idea.