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Mark Bradshaw #fundie disqus.com

(Excerpts of a conversation in progress - some content removed because context can’t be provided)

“No, because rapists and murderers are not consenting, they're abusing others. Once again, you do not understand informed consent.” ----- I do understand what informed consent it. But you still haven’t cited why informed consent makes behavior moral or not.

“No, because you do not understand the concept of consent.” ---- I do. And a child can provide consent. Your hang-up is “legal” consent. If the legal system has no definition of age required for consent, is having relations with an 8 year old moral or immoral? And why?

“You fail to understand the difference between consent and abuse.” ----- You’ve shown NO connection between the two. You’ve FAILED to show why a child cannot give consent – other than “It’s the law”. So, I ask again, since slavery was legal, is slavery moral?

“If they find nothing wrong with rape or murder, yes their morals are wrong.” ----- HOW can you make this claim that their morals are wrong?

“All right, go ahead and abuse a child.” ----- Again, HOW is it abuse if (the child) consents?

“Says the law. Age of consent laws exist for a reason.” ----- So, the law is the arbiter of what is/isn’t moral? I guess slavery was moral, right? What about countries/societies that don’t have laws regarding age of consent – are relations with children moral in those instances?

“And you have elected to believe your denomination is right and the rest are wrong.” ----- Not “the rest” – just those who reject God and His word. But the same could be said of YOU, right? You reject anyone that doesn’t believe the same way you do. How is that any different than what you accuse me of doing?

“- No, I'm asserting that you have what everyone else has - an interpretation, which means you're just as wrong as everyone else and no one can agree about things because you're all so sure you've chosen the 100% correct understanding.” ----- Upon WHAT AUTHORITY can you claim that I am wrong? How can YOU be sure that YOU’VE CHOSEN the “correct” morals? You cannot even cite an authoritative source for those morals.

“You're trying to give it the answer you want, but you can't do that.” ---- I am using how words are defined.

“People don't commit murder because they believe it's acceptable...come on. They do it out of desperation in their situation and because they no longer care and have lost the ability to reason.” ----- So, now you are a psychologist and can claim to know the motivations of every murderer?

“I love the way you think any two people on earth can just make the decision to copulate and it's going to work out peachy.” ----- When did I ever assert that any behavior will “work out peachy”? Why do you insist on asserting that I’ve said things I haven’t actually said?

“Desires you feel you have the right to tell people to squash because of your religion.” ----- FALSE. All that I’ve simply stated is that homosexual behavior is immoral. People “squash” emotions and desires all of the time.

“Not confused at all. I never said our parents got everything right.” ----- Yet you DID say that you learn your morals from your parents – that your parents are your moral authority.

“We get older and our brains develop and we learn for ourselves what good morals are.” ----- “Good” based upon WHAT? You are essentially saying that YOU are your own moral authority. If someone’s morals allow for murder or rape, is that acceptable? If not, then upon WHAT AUTHORITY can one assert something is good/bad, moral/immoral?

“that as we learn to think for ourselves that we don't need a holy book to tell us what's right and wrong.” ---- Upon WHAT BASIS can you determine something to be right or wrong, moral or immoral? You haven’t answered that simple question. You keep going on and on about “learning what is right and wrong”, yet have NEVER cited a source for what is right and wrong. If someone grows up learning that murder and rape are moral, how can you say that murder and rape aren’t moral?

“This is the last time I'm going to humor you on this subject since you don't know and have no desire to know the difference between consent and abuse.” ----- Again, you continue to FAIL to cite an authoritative source for why abuse is wrong, or where not providing legal consent is a qualifier of abuse. You have FAILED to show why, in a society where there is no law regarding age of consent, it is immoral to have relations with a child who has consented.

“We take rapists and murderers out of circulation when they engage in this behavior because it's abuse and it's illegal.” ----- But WHY are those acts immoral? Why are “abuse” and “illegal behavior” immoral? WHAT AUTHORITY asserts that these acts are immoral?

“We don't do the same with homosexuals because they decide to engage in a sexual act because it's not abuse. No one gets hurt.” ----- Whether one gets hurt or not doesn’t determine morality.

“Yes. Age of consent laws aren't absolutely perfect and no two countries draw the lines in the same places, but they do the best they can.” ----- So, if a country/society define no legal age limits on consent, having relations with a 6 year old is acceptable/moral?

“The 20 year old man goes to jail. Quite rightly.” ---- What about in countries that don’t have any limits on age of consent? Is that 20 year old man having relations with a 6 year old girl moral or immoral?

Mark Bradshaw #fundie disqus.com

(Excerpts of a conversation in progress - some content removed because context can’t be provided)

“We're not living in the time of slaves.” ---- Yet people DID and that was LAW at that time – yet you contend that laws determine morality. Is/was owning another human being moral?
“You are trying to corner me into saying that our morality comes from the Bible. Well, it doesn't.” ----- How can you claim where my morals originate? My morals are based in God’s morals – as enumerated in the Bible. You have NO AUTHORITY to tell me, or anyone else, where my morals come from.
(On the age of consent): “We have to draw the line somewhere because until a child's brain is fully developed, it cannot and should not be held responsible.” ----- So, your “line” isn’t really about consent, but is about ability. Why do you believe a child cannot consent to something? Why do you believe that there is some magical point at which consent given is acceptable?
“It's morally wrong for about a million reasons, not least of which we don't need a bunch of teen and pre-teen parents running around who aren't mature or capable of caring for babies.” ----- So, yet again, you are imposing YOUR morals on society.
“Allowing perverts to abuse young children IS a far worse thing than allowing two consenting homosexual adults to physically enjoy themselves, and if you can't see that or need a holy book to tell you why it's wrong is downright shameful.” ----- You still have yet to articulate how a child is harmed in this scenario. You just keep asserting “harm” without ever articulating how harm occurs. And, it isn’t about “enjoyment” – it is about what is/isn’t moral. I am sure people engaging in immoral behavior are enjoying themselves – why would they voluntarily engage in behavior if they didn’t find it enjoyable?
(On rape/murder being immoral): “can't see for yourself that it's one person enforcing their will over another which goes right against the Golden Rule.” ----- Upon WHAT BASIS can you claim that the Golden Rule is moral? So far, you have failed to answer this simple question.
“Now tell me why you need a Bible to tell you that's wrong.” ----- Because without an authoritative source, all you have is YOUR OWN beliefs of what is right and wrong. If that is all you believe is necessary to form morals, then how can you force YOUR morals on anyone else by asserting that the Golden Rule is moral?
“We don't NEED people like you to "rebuke" what you call "sins".” ----- Again, it is NOT about what I call sin, but IS about what God calls sin. Sorry you are so confused.
“We need you to mind your own business because we have the right to have chosen to believe differently than you do and don't require the morals you have chosen to follow.” ----- So, a person who believes it is moral to rape or murder is acceptable? Are the morals of individuals who believe it is acceptable to rape and murder acceptable in your world, since that is the morals THEY CHOSE?

Mick Williams/Lady Checkmate disqus.com

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(Image shows Disqus as a sinking ship and “trolls” drowning)

Mick Williams:
Episode: On To Better Things.

Lady Checkmate:
Amen to that. As an aside, I understand the hurt and grief of the unique users who are losing their communities. On topic, the trolls are losing their minds, lol. Their years of stalking, trolling, death threats, kill lists, rape fantasies, and overall harassment (of not just other users, but of DISQUS admin and employees as well - complaining about everything from their cry-bully feelings to those they hate) accomplished nothing but to have their favorite place to troll (and them with it) deleted. Ohhhh, what will they do with their time hate now? Years of hatefully creating sock bots and entire sock armies to stalk and threaten users with was just a waste of time and their socks and bots are now useless...lol. Ain't God good? I have been so amused by the entire thing. Again, I do empathize with the grieving unique-users who are caught up un the sweep, but the trolls and their socks and bots are meeting a fitting end. Kudos to DISQUS! I ran my race, here. I finished my course, here. May God be magnified in all that we do and in all things. Most of you, I will never meet here on this earth, but for those who truly love God and are His...we will meet in heaven. To the lost, my parting words are still...seek Jesus.

Mick Williams:
The critters are definitely panicking. Without this hate outlet, they'll maybe take it to the street and get arrested, or end up in asylums.

Lady Checkmate:
Also, expect them to ramp up their trolling on DISQUS, while they can. Check out the spam folder, but be careful and do not click on any links. They are to'ed. Walk (metaphorically speaking) circumspectly, watch and pray. Most of you guys, I will never meet here on this earth, but for those who are truly Bible-believing Christians, we will meet in heaven. I look forward to that day. My parting words to the lost, after all of these years, would still be..."God loves you...seek Jesus".


Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate’s headline: “Abhor "that" which is evil..."that", not "who"”

Those with skewed world views often accuse Bible-Believing Christians of hating them...which is a bald-faced lie. We love them, but we abhor sin and evil behavior ("that which is evil") as God's word instructs us to. I repeat, we abhor evil sinful behavior...behavior like pedophilia, we abhor...behavior like adultery (and all sexual immorality), we abhor...unrighteous violence (stalking, death threats, rape fantasies, creating kill lists, etc.,), we abhor. It is not the "who" or the individual that we abhor...it is the behavior "that" we abhor.

We share the gospel with the world, even as they threaten to kill us for it. We spend time in prayer, interceding and crying out to God for them, even as they create kill lists with our names on it-because we love them as God has instructed us to and we truly desire God's will for their life. My prayer is that even though they hate us for sharing Life and Truth with them. Even though they wish death on us for praying for them. Even though they despise us, stalk us, harass us and threaten our lives, we will continue to pray for them. God is not mocked. We will continue to seek God. We will continue to love them because it pleases God and we are submitted to Him and His will. The world's hate will not stop God's Love.

Romans 12: 4-10 (KJV)
4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:
5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;
8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.
9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

Brethren, we will be starting a separate community for us so that we may continue to fellowship, continue to encourage one another, and continue to share Truth with those who are truly seeking Truth. I will tag each of you to our new community when it is established. These are the end times, and we are here for a purpose...may God's will be done...forever.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate’s headline: “Reprobate Pete Buttigieg questions some GOP lawmakers' faith over their stance on minimum wage”

Theologian Jonathan Morris weighs in on Pete Buttigieg's remarks calling some Republican senators 'so-called Christians' because of their refusal to raise the minimum wage.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6066131434001/#sp=show-clips

Mick Williams:
And this from a so-called Christian himself. Eyeroll.

Lady Checkmate:
Pete is very lost and confused. I pity him...and not because I’m in any way better than him. Yes, he has earthly influence, but long term...he has nothing. Sadly, he has been greatly deceived and runs the risk of spending eternity in hell separated from the only living God. My heart weeps for Pete. It’s as if he doesn’t know...as if he hasn’t heard that God is NOT mocked. Everyone will have to give an account of what they did with this life and rather or not we lived it for Jesus Christ:
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(image says: THE GREATEST DECEPTION OF THE DEVIL IS WHEN HE TRICKS SOMEONE INTO THINKING THEY ARE SAVED WHEN THEY ARE NOT. NARROW IS THE WAY, WHICH LEADETH UNTO LIFE, AND FEW BE THERE THAT FIND IT. MATTHEW 7:14)

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Today’s Laugh 7-29-19

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(first image: people seated at a meeting. Various voices: “Manholes must be de-gendered. How about maintenance access hole?” “Hole sounds like ‘ho’, suggesting we come in different genders.” “Maintenance access entrance/exit aperture!” “’Apeture’ bothers me.”)
(second image: man shown dropping jar containing brain. Label on jar says “normal brain”. His hands are then shown holding a separate jar with a brain labelled “Democrat brain”.)

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

“Today’s Laugh”

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Robert Mueller rendered as Frankenstein’s monster lies motionless on a table. Two “doctors” (who resemble Adam Schiff and Elijah Cummings, I assume) speak:
Cummings: Maybe we expected too much of it…pushed it too hard and too long.
Schiff: No!! Give it another 20,000 volts!!

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Good evening. I shall begin with the astonishing assertion that the modern democrat party is the best thing going for Christianity. Before I prove my thesis, note my avoidance of "democratic", since these unwitting servants of the gospel are anything but. Don't bother with a Google search for "democrat party". They will immediately correct your spelling to "democratic party". If you seek anything critical of democrats, be prepared to wade through countless pages of glowing praise. One would think both the DNC and their big tech enablers were legitimate entities.

Their persecution of the faith confirms the Bible prediction, thus strengthening the believers' faith. Recall the Battle of Britain to know that human nature requires resistance to bullying and tyranny. Thirdly, we can reliably take our cue from folks seduced into a backward paradigm. If they oppose it, it has to be a good thing.

Then there are the consequences of unbelief. The Book confirms strong delusion, for one. No rational mind can change its sex or race on a whim. Is it rational to coddle Islam, which takes a sword to the sacred cows of homosexuality and feminism?--or to attack the patriots who espouse a strong border? It is a reprobate mind that lusts after children via drag queen story hours. Ditto for one that decides against parenthood at the moment of birth, taking advantage of democrat laws allowing termination. As the list is a long one, I shall move on.

Our leftist friends also confirm the supernatural in their gibbering hatred of the president, its kneejerk triggering of no earthly origin. Perhaps the unseen entities riding them are channeling their master's ire at the president's anti-globalist agenda. It's a pipe dream the left has nursed since the Tower of Babel.

Finally, scoffers confirm the prophetic account, be it Tribulation or Second Coming. Evil men are indeed waxing worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. Though long a truism, the end-times American model charts on an exponential curve. After all, the U S is the final obstacle to the left's communist hell on earth. Since the Evil One is the conductor of this infernal orchestra, this, ironically, makes him the greatest dupe of all.

I shall now return to the relative sanity of black and white vintage TV. Good night.

(Includes photo of Alfred Hitchcock, not included here)

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

They call him Orange Man, a president whose every word triggers them into paroxysms of hysterical rage. Yet these enemies of freedom are no bigots. They label him a sexist akin to the religious death cult they champion; a baby-killer who would deny women their "reproductive right" to infanticide; he's all the evils unknown on their side. Doubters have merely to check with their pet media.

Who are these modern masters of hypocrisy? They're the legacy of the old Soviet Bloc, who, failing to defeat us on the battlefield, planted the seeds of internal rot. So brilliant has been its success that the Cultivators are now turning on each other; so complete has been their descent into lunacy that some of their own are being scared straight. A worried Russian president, in fact, insists that liberalism is harmful to the host, hoping to forestall the complete collapse of the disease.

The Dregs, known to Russia as "useful idiots", are those the state has divorced from the Good Book. Lacking absolute truth, their moral compass is a weather vane duck with spinning wings, blown about by the hot breath of that old serpent they'll never see. After all, no heaven equals no hell in the algebra of the left.

A certain "wealthy financier" laments that the president is dismantling the New World Order. Sensing his re-election, certain Middle East actors are making overtures of peace. Nor is an EMP attack likely, since the Illuminati need the internet. Time to relax? Not according to those who like to quote "at a time ye think not", when all seems normal and prosperous. The sudden absence of millions will likely crash a house-of-cards economy propped up by a rapidly withdrawing Restrainer. It's a crisis tailor-made for a man waiting in the wings, stage left, in The Twilight Zone.

(Accompanied by a photo of Rod Serling, not included here)

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Useful Idiot Logic

Colleges used to teach sequential logic, a three part statement that proves the conclusion via a central link. Liberal education has no use for it, so it had to go. Here's an example:

Fingers are part of the hand; the hand is part of the body; therefore fingers are part of the body.

Even a liberal wouldn't debate something so obvious. Since truth is their kryptonite, they use two part inferred logic, which is always false. To whit:

You don't wear the rainbow jersey; therefore you're a homophobe.

Note the absence of a link, since none exists. The burden of proof is on the accuser, which isn't a problem since he has a blank check courtesy of the fake media. Has the accused made anti-gay threats or jokes?--belonged to a vigilante group that stalks them? Note also that 'phobia' is an irrational fear, such as that of sunflowers (yep--it's on record). Here's another entertaining example of child-like reasoning:

The president said four non-white congresswomen should go back to their home countries; therefore he's a racist.

Wow, where to even begin. First, the president has never made a racist statement. Second, note the omission of the real target of his ire: the rabid anti-Americanism of these four useful idiots. His remark is an opinion: If you hate this country, then leave. Now let's prove our useful idiot comment.

Useful idiots, as defined by Joe Stalin, blindly follow the communist party line; these four women blindly follow the communist party line; therefore these women are useful idiots.

The proof of their communist agenda is abundantly found in their hatred of Israel, dislike of strong borders, anti-Christian statements, love of socialism. . . .that's another post entirely. Case closed.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Mr. Opinionated:
Every single person I have ever known, gay or straight, has described their sexual orientation the same way: they didn't chose it, it was just always there and part of who they were.
I'm a believer, but there are many reasons I can't accept the idea that homosexuality is a sin against God. God creates us, and he knows who we are before we are born. People don't chose to be gay, they are born that way. I can't chose to love a man anymore than my gay brother can chose to love a woman. And if they don't have a choice, then God created them like that and I can't accept the idea that God would create people to be sexually immoral and have to endure that throughout their lives.

Lady Checkmate:
Hi Mr. Opinionated. First, thank you for taking the time to comment, respectfully. Second, I will do my best to speak the Truth in love to you, because Christians love people, even when we don’t agree with their choices. I repeat, Christians love people, even when we disagree with their choices. What does that mean? That means that “disagreement” is NOT hate. That means that I love you and because I love you as Christ instructed me to, I will speak the truth in love with you and pray you come to know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. I will not argue with you, I will only share God’s Truth and move on. Here we go....

You stated you are a “believer”, but you did not say what you believe, so that could mean anything. God’s word, the Holy Bible, states that if someone (as in a Bible-believing Christian) loves God then they (as in Bible-believing Christians) will obey Him. Anyone who is indeed a “Bible-believing Christian”, will love God enough to obey Him and deny themself, i.e., their flesh. Now, please understand that that may be difficult (and is impossible without God) because the flesh wars against the spirit. That means that even though a Bible-believing Christian’s spirit wants to obey God, their flesh does not. This is when we must submit ourselves (including our flesh) to God’s authority and deny our self (our flesh) taking up our cross and following Jesus Christ instead of being led by our flesh. God is a spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth...in spirit and in truth...not in flesh and lies.

Every true Bible-believing Christian (like the OP Beckett and many others who lived the same lifestyle) acknowledges that sin is a choice. Every true Bible-believing Christian has denied selfish flesh and is worshipping God in spirit and in truth. Bible-believing Christians do not argue for, nor defend sin, we seek to obey God and live holy and upright before Him. I apologize if you have been taught a false, watered down gospel. We regularly pray for all followers here and will pray for you as well. Please seek Jesus Christ.

Amos moses #fundie disqus.com

The UN Is Normalizing Pedophilia: The Deep State Is Free to Prey Upon Your Children

https://hnewswire.com/the-un-is-normalizing-pedophilia-the-deep-state-is-free-to-prey-upon-your-children/

Excerpts:
“The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights is sanctioning a sexual revolution that will culminate in the legalization and whole-hearted support of transgenderism but will also support the legalization of pedophilia.”
“Years ago, I wrote about the fact that the North American Man-Boy Association (NAMBLA) was advocating for the legalization of pedophilia. Their identifying banner statement is “sex before 8 or it is too late”. Care to guess who their largest contributor is? NAMBLA’s largest contributor is George Soros.”
“If that is not concerning enough for you please realize that Kevin Jennings, an Obama Department of Education official, and a close friend of Hillary Clinton has involvement with this group as well.”

Amos Moses:
they all have their PRIDE in common .......

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Newest target of Left is biggest one of all: your marriageThe professional association that bowed to pressure from homosexual activists during the 1970s is now advocating adultery among married couples.

Laurie Higgins of the Illinois Family Institute (IFI) suggests no one should ever consider the American Psychological Association a legitimate source again, citing the push for “consensual non-monogamy” from a group of lesbian and homosexual psychologists.

According to Higgins and IFI, an APA group known as Division 44, founded in the 1980s, formed a "task force advisory board" last year that examined consensual non-monogamy in the interest of “relationship diversity" and has now released its findings.

“Consensual non-monogamy” is professional euphemism for adultery and infidelity.

(full article here: https://onenewsnow.com/culture/2019/07/12/newest-target-of-left-is-biggest-one-of-all-your-marriage)

Lady Checkmate:
Again, their goal was always to mock and trivialize marriage. This is just a continuation of their original goal. But, God’s will will be done in spite of their mocking and hate.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Supreme Court to hear case that could bring major changes in school choice laws
(The Supreme Court to hear a Montana case which asks if states can ban aid programs for those who send their kids to religious schools.)
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6057946504001/#sp=show-clips

Mick Williams:
It's about time to take down liberal education. And while we're at it, big pharma, the fake media, the list is a long one.

Lady Checkmate:
Agreed. It’s past time to take them down. They’ve used the public education system, msm/fake media, big pharma, etc., to spread their lies and propaganda and indoctrinate the masses...starting with the youngest and most vulnerable. The alt-left is a cruel, wicked, manipulative group, and they will bow before almighty God and answer to Him for their wickedness and rebellion. We must continue to pray. The education system, public school systems and alt-left reprobates are doing their best to indoctrinate children with the lies and confusion of the enemy. Families should be able to decide where they want to send their children and what they want their children taught as far as morals and values.

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

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CNN reporter says “New round of subpoenas against Trump”. Foreground shows a demon (?) holding a hand of cards that say variously “Deep State Islam”, “Borders - UN”, Media - Schools”, “Dims (sic) - trans”, “Apostasy - LGBT”, “Soros - BDS” and “Antifa”. Bare hand with white sleeve holds single card which reads “Second coming”.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

I'm not a fan of Beth Moore (at all), but women can teach women...biblically. God is no respecter of persons so I'm not sure how egalitarianism applies, but I would be interested to know. I don't have any hope in Beth Moore and I do NOT follow "her" ministry. Still, I don't agree with some of the "heresy hunters" and "religious watchdogs" and truly believe that some of the Christians under attack are being wrongfully harassed by other "Christians", which does not please God. Even David Lynn is being harassed by another "Christian". It's time for the church to stop attacking Bible-believing Christians and start praying for each other. With everything David is going through, it broke my heart to see someone else who claimed to be a "Christian" attack him. I have been attacked by professing "Christians" right here on Disqus. This was awhile back, when our community first picked up a cyberstalking reprobate who sometimes presents itself (via it's socks) as a "Christian" (CINO) to infiltrate "Christian" communities and cause division, strife, discord, etc. Well, at that time, it appeared that a couple of professing "Christians" had aligned with the cyberstalking reprobate to persecute and harass us Bible-believing Christians...especially me because our community is a Christian safe-space. The reprobate's targeted harassment and persecution (although hateful, unwarranted and just plain wrong as it escalated to stalking, death and rape threats) was predictable per scripture, it was the harassment of the professing "Christians" that caught me off guard. I could not find one scripture in God's word to approve of the hate and harassment coming from professing "Christians" to another Christian. I also couldn't find one scripture to support "Christians" aligning with reprobates to target and harass other Bible-believing Christians. True story: there were actually "Christians" who participated on hate channels created by reprobates to stalk, harass and threaten me and a few other Christians. In fact, those same hate channels were created by the same reprobate that stalks many Christians on a third-party website created for the sole purpose of targeting, stalking, harassing and threatening Bible-believing Christians. Those same "Christians" were/are also allowing reprobates to post harassing and threatening OPs against other Christians in their "Christian" communities. Ironically, those same "Christians" are also targeted, mocked, harassed and hated on that third party site, smh. I grew so much in that season. I realized that NOT everyone who says they are a "Christian" actually is a Christian. And, in case you're wondering (not you :), but anyone else)...they were upset that we don't allow blasphemy, heresy, mocking, harassment, persecution, false doctrines, etc., here. Our community is actually a safe-space for Bible-Believing Christians. I don't believe blasphemy, heresy, mocking, harassment, persecution, false doctrines, etc., are allowed in heaven either, but I guess the "Christians" who aligned with reprobates to harass me, felt I should allow blasphemy, heresy, mocking, harassment, persecution, false doctrines, etc., in the name of free speech...lol. The Bible doesn't support free speech...it supports Truth. Truth sets the captives free. We actually have peace here now, no discord, no strife, no heresy, no false doctrines, no persecution, etc., I thank God they're gone..."they" as in the mockers, scoffers, blasphemers, heretics, reprobates and CINOs. I shook the dust from my feet. I NEVER spoke a negative word about any of those "Christians" nor mentioned their usernames, and I also NEVER allowed anyone else to attack them in this Christian community (which is alot more than what any of them did for me). The body of Christ is not divided. And, to show the goodness of God...there were actually unbelievers and agnostics who defended me and stood against the targeted harassment, threats and cyberstalking...who would've thought ;). God will judge between Bible-believing Christians and those who persecute us.

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

“Pretenders”

The inmates have put on suits and ties. That veneer of respectability has fooled the undiscerning, and now the lunatics have taken over the asylum. Case in point: the dimocrat debates, hosting a fifth column who have abandoned all pretense of rationality. Having graduated the corrupt school system as card-carrying liberals, their source of voters is confined to the dregs. Hence their zeal in vying to outdo each other in delusionality, reacting to trigger words like 'Trump' with howls of self-righteous indignation.

Comrade Sanders wants free college. Like giving a blank check to a home remodeler, this guarantees no limit to hikes in tuition. His plan to place rotating judges on the supreme court to infuse 'fresh blood' requires some translating of the dim-speak: fresh blood equals liberal stooges who will obediently toe the globalist line. Comrade Fauxcahontas wants 'gay reparations'. Like its Civil War counterpart, this penalizes that vast majority who have done nothing wrong. Of course, to the leftist mind, deplorables are responsible for all the nation's ills.

Local news has been permanently co-opted by the left. When the president launched a cyber attack on the mad mullahs, reporters found a computer student who performed on cue by calling it 'unprecedented' and 'dangerous'. When the president called off an air attack, liberal anchors called it 'weak' in the expected knee-jerk opposition to everything he does.

Yet the leftist spin-meisters ignore the rapidly festering beast system. Retailers are putting together a social score that raises prices for those who don't pass muster. On Walmart's self-serve kiosks, your not-so-smiling face confronts you on the monitor. Try not to wink, lest it lower your score and bring it to the attention of one who awaits his call onto the world stage.

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(image is Bernie Sanders wearing a mask of…someone.)

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

“Today’s Laugh 6-24-19″

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(Image shows Elizabeth Warren as Pocahontas, Cory Booker with Spartacus helmet, Bernie Sanders in a communist jacket and ?????? Below this is a partial rainbow flag with several slogans over top: “The end of women’s sports!” “Illegals first!” “Eliminate gender” “Change your mind? LIVE BIRTH ABORTION!” “Jail Trump” and “No borders”.)

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

“Alabama church gets the OK to use private police force”

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has signed a bill that will allow a Presbyterian church to use its own private police force on its campus.

The law, approved two weeks ago, allows the Birmingham-based Briarwood Presbyterian Church to establish a private law enforcement department to make arrests when crimes are committed on its properties.

The law will also apply to the church’s school campus and a private academy that is located in another county. Church officials said the measure was necessary to provide adequate security for the 2,000 students and faculty on its two private school campuses.

Randall Marshall, the executive director of the ACLU of Alabama, said the law could allow the church to cover-up criminal activity that occurs on its campuses. He added that the law will likely be challenged in court for unconstitutionally granting government power to a religious institution.

The new policy will go into effect in the fall.


Lady Checkmate:
This may be necessary to deal with the alt-left Christophobes who hate, stalk, threaten and wish to murder Christians, anywhere they can.

Oxford Martyrs:
If you're going to allow mass immigration of Muslims into this country then allowing churches and Christian schools the ability to protect themselves makes sense.

aCultureWarrior #fundie disqus.com

If you truly based laws on consent, these behaviors would be legal (some of them are) :

Homosexuality, pedophilia/pederasty (your LGBT icons say that the child often "wants it", and who are we to not believe your LGBT icons?) incest, bestiality (see LGBT icon Frank Kameny's quote) adultery, polygamy/group sex, prostitution, suicide, assisted suicide (no questions asked), pornography (any kind, including "snuff films"); duels/gang warfare, any kind of drug for any reason.

Admit it, you need the Bible.

Amos Moses #fundie disqus.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iathwwlfV9c&feature=youtu.be

Amos Moses:
i should have posted this in a different place .... but this is totally in sync with her character .... if you could even call it "character" ..... and she and RGB have made pedophilic remarks and arguments for a long time ........

"The state should no longer be allowed to assume the rationality of regulations based upon age and should at least be required to justify its actions on the basis of modern legislative and administrative findings." ~ Hillary Rodham, The Harvard Education Review, 1973, "Children Under the Law"

that is a pedophiles argument ..... oh .... and "love is love" .....

Off Shore #fundie disqus.com

I Can Smell Your Ass From Here:
You can't deny someone the basic service you provide because you don't like them. And if that ever gets legalized it means people will be able to deny service to Christians.

Off Shore:
Go to a muslim baker and ask him to put bacon on that cake and let us know how it goes.

aCultureWarrior #homophobia disqus.com

LOL! You're winning the culture war by leaps and bounds and you're still denying that it was due to an agenda? Granted, part of that original agenda was the legalization of raping little boys, but we don't need to talk about that, as it's already been established that your LGBT movement created pedophile organizations and has as it's icons, pedophiles and pederasts.

The 1972 Gay Rights Platform
Platform created at the National Coalition of Gay Organizations Convention held in Chicago in 1972

FEDERAL LEVEL:
1. Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation and government controls to prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations and public services.
2. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting the military from excluding for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance into the Armed Services; and from issuing less-than-fully-honorable discharges for homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously issued, with retroactive benefits.
3. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the federal civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting discriminations against homosexuals in security clearances.
4. Elimination of tax inequities victimizing single persons and same-sex couples.
5. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration and naturalization of homosexual aliens.
6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by gay women and men, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and lifestyle as a viable alternative to heterosexuality.
7. Appropriate executive orders, regulations and legislation banning the compiling, maintenance and dissemination of information on an individual's sexual preferences, behavior, and social and political activities for dossiers and data banks.
8. Federal funding of aid programs of gay men's and women's organizations designed to alleviate the problems encountered by Gay women and men which are engendered by an oppressive sexist society.
9. Immediate release of all Gay women and men now incarcerated in detention centers, prisons and mental institutions because of sexual offense charges relating to victimless crimes or sexual orientation; and that adequate compensation be made for the physical and mental duress encountered; and that all existing records relating to the incarceration be immediately expunged.
STATE LEVEL:
1. All federal legislation and programs enumerated in Demands 1, 6, 7, 8, and 9 above should be implemented at the State level where applicable.
2. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons; equalization for homosexuals and heterosexuals for the enforcement of all laws.
3. Repeal all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female.
4. Enactment of legislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal demesne.
5. Enactment of legislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster parenting, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status.
6. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting transvestism and cross-dressing.
7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.
8. Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.

(This) was published on homosexual website. Did you notice that pretty much all of the agenda has been accomplished? Little things like decriminalizing child rape takes time, but Terry Bean, Ed Murray and Larry Kramer are working hard at it.

aCultureWarrior #homophobia disqus.com

aCultureWarrior:
If homosexuality were recriminalized, this insanity wouldn't be happening. As it stands, the police (most if not all police depts. throughout the nation employ openly homosexual men and women, some even transgender) are enforcing laws protecting immoral behavior. In this case it appears that they're concerned with the possibility of civil unrest and took actions to prevent it.

Miranda Cole:
Being attracted to the same gender is not something you should be able to “criminalize.”

aCultureWarrior:
LOL...this coming from someone who supports the LGBT movement (i.e. the 'gaystapo') that is currently criminalizing people wanting to help those lost souls with same sex attractions to understand them and possibly even overcome them.

Miranda Cole:
There is no gaystapo. You just want people to think there is so you can create an us-vs.-them illusion because of your own personal fear and hate. You are to be pitied.

aCultureWarrior:
And denial isn't a river in Africa.
I often times refer to your tyrannical LGBT movement as "jack booted thugs", but 'gaystapo' is much easy to type.
BTW, "ACT-UP!" founder and defender of pedophilia Larry Kramer admitted they and early homosexual militants used tactics from Hitler's Mein Kampf.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Good start, but lets send a strong message to those who wish to infringe upon the rights of conservatives and specifically Christians for the sole purpose of targeting and harassing those they disagree with. Bakery owners, Floral Shop owners, Bed and Breakfast owners, Photographers, etc., (and their families-including their children) have actually received death threats, rape threats, been physically assaulted and been stalked by hateful "activists" for simply being conservative and Christian. Clearly, there are some VERY evil and hateful "activists" in the world. Please continue to pray for harassed and persecuted Christians (and conservatives) all over the world, including right here in the USA.

Amos Moses #homophobia disqus.com

'My Little Pony' brings same-sex couple to latest episode - WWSB


“Arthur” no longer has a stranglehold on children’s shows portraying same-sex couples.

Saturday’s episode of “My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic” introduces Aunt Holiday and Auntie Lofty – a lesbian couple and guardians of Scootaloo.

The episode, “The last Crusade,” has already aired in Europe ahead of its debut on Discovery Family this weekend.

The two characters aren’t new to the franchise, just the animated TV series.

The couple first appeared in 2017 in the book “Ponyville Mysteries: Riddle of the Rusty Horseshoe.”

One of the book’s writers, Michael Vogel, confirmed their relationship at the time. He also writes for the TV shows.

Amos Moses:
HOMOMIRAGE strikes again ............
i am not going to link to this story .... it is over at infowars if you want to look .... but it is graphic ...... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ..........

Amos Moses/Lady Checkmate #homophobia disqus.com

Cartoon Network promotes 'Pride Month' to young children

Cartoon Network, the popular television channel watched by millions of children, promoted LGBT pride month by using one of its widely popular shows to encourage fans to “stand proud."

LGBT activists have designated June as “pride month” to celebrate alternative sexual lifestyles and gender identities, and Cartoon Network took to Twitter last week to voice its solidarity with the movement as thousands take part in events nationwide.

“We want to wish everyone a HAPPY PRIDE and encourage all of our LGBTQ+ fans to stand proud all year long!” the network, which is owned by Warner Bros., tweeted along with emojis representing a rainbow flag, heart and a unicorn.

The tweet also included a picture of characters from its popular reboot show “Powerpuff Girls.”

The tweet included the hashtags “#powerpuffyourself,” “#pridemonth” and “#powerfuffgirls.”

The network is up there with the likes Nickelodeon and the Disney Channel as being television outlets favorited by children because of the number of cartoons that it broadcasts throughout the week.

Cartoon Network bills itself as being “the best in original, acquired and classic entertainment for youth and families.” However, many parents object to media outlets pushing an agenda that contradicts their own beliefs on sexuality and marriage.

Twitter is not the only place where Cartoon Network is promoting LGBT pride, however. Cartoon Network is also doing so through its online shop and some of its cartoon characters themselves.

Last year, it is believed that Cartoon Network’s animated show “Steven Universe” became the first children’s show to feature a same-sex wedding proposal. The proposal was between female characters named Sapphire and Ruby.

Additionally, Cartoon Network’s “Adventure Time” series aired a scene in its series finale last year that showed two female characters kissing each other on the lips. The scene confirmed years of speculation that the two were lesbians.

On its website, Cartoon Network is celebrating pride week by promoting its Steven Universe “made of love” collection. The collection includes LGBT-themed apparel and memorabilia.

Although Cartoon Network’s webshop only sells to parents or adults, children are just a click away from seeing listings for “Steven Universe” LGBT-pride pins, a “Steven Universe” rainbow-themed “made of love” patch and even a “Steven Universe” “kissing tote bag.”

The website also sells a “Steven Universe” “reunited” throw pillow and T-shirt. The tote bag, shirt, and throw pillow all feature the same decal of the two female characters kissing.

“Love is in the air! This multicolored pillow celebrates the Ruby and Sapphire on their wedding day,” the listing reads. “Double sided, this pillow features the happy couple at the altar on both sides.”

Cartoon Network is not the only children’s network that uses its program to shine a light on LGBT relationships.

In 2016, Nickelodeon incorporated a biracial, same-sex couple into one of its shows called “The Loud House.”


Amos Moses:
BECAUSE HOMOMIRAGE AND PEDOPHILIA ARE NOT CONNECTED ..... yeah right .....

Lady Checkmate:
(reposts several of her “stop sexualizing children” memes)

Amos Moses:
more of the benefits of homomirage ..............

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate:
This is it!!! I love the people, but I cannot celebrate anything that hurts them or separates them from God. I will celebrate their lives, their accomplishments and important moments in their lives, but I will NOT lie to them nor be a stumbling block for them. I would rather be a light in the dark, helping guide them to Truth (which may annoy them at times), than lie to them and leave them alone and confused in darkness - ultimately leaving them separated from Truth for all eternity. In case you're wondering...this costs...

Mick Williams:
So-called health professionals who insist this is normal are themselves mentally ill.

Lady Checkmate:
They will bow before God and answer to Him for deceiving hurting and lost people. Lost and hurting people need Truth-Jesus Christ, not liars saying whatever needs to be said to continue deceiving and manipulating people who are already lost and hurting.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

[Submitter’s Note: This one requires a bit of introduction. From what I can tell, a new user attempted to post a couple of things on Lady Checkmate’s “Faith & Religion” channel on Disqus and was banned within 5 minutes. (The comments were inoffensive, I will link them.) Said user then went to Lady Checkmate’s conflict resolution channel “Battleground Discuss” to ask why she was banned, but the inquiry was likewise removed and the user banned. Then the user, looking for an explanation, found a channel called “Banned Camp” on Disqus and posted a new topic about it there. A couple of that channel’s owners reached out to Lady Checkmate for an explanation of her behavior, then hilarity ensued when Lady Checkmate posted this on her “resolution” channel]

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For years now, a certain stalker, who I've been informed is a well-known "cyberstalker", has been targeting, stalking, harassing, threatening and encouraging others to target, stalk, harass, and threaten me and other Christians on DISQUS and other online platforms. This stalker actually has a dedicated blog where he brags on his stalking and hatred of Bible-believing Christians and even narrates the online posting habits of Bible-Believing Christians (and anyone he disagrees with politically, socially, religious beliefs, etc.,)...true story. He actually stalks, harasses and bashes many DISQUS users there, by their DISQUS usernames. A reasonable person would call that unhealthy, right? Well, this unreasonable and mentally unstable stalker thinks it's "perfectly normal" to stalk, harass, threaten to murder, threaten rape fantasies and issue death wishes to the people he doesn't like...which is not "perfectly normal" and is in fact abnormal, and not even reasonable nor sane. I have shared this information before. Sadly, some mods still allow this mentally unstable and hateful man to use their community to target, threaten and harass others...which is not only a violation of the DISQUS ToS and Abuse policy but is also wrong regardless of the policy. The troll should be referred to and committed to a psychiatric hospital (and stabilized on meds), not encouraged to continue stalking, harassing and threatening users.

A couple of years ago, I wrote an OP detailing his antics and he's still at it. Note, he uses many, many sock accounts to keep his harassment current and ongoing and has even bragged on how quickly he can create socks to harass me with. Clearly, that is a sign of his mental illness.

[message goes on longer but I will cut it off here]

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Link to where Lady Checkmate posted her original post the new user commented on:
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-faithreligion/canada_hates_christians_david_lynn_official_press_release/

New user’s deleted comments which resulted in her ban:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/348ad2d90bef6b6032907f6baee15c9696e83e1ed7c9101ddf26a8edb422f488.jpg?w=600&h=258

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

“PERSECUTION: Seattle gay pride participants viciously beat Christian street preacher”
(see URL for story as well as Lady Checkmate’s usual anti-homosexual memes)

Mick Williams:
Those who abuse their bodies like that can't be expected to care about anyone else's. The fake media only makes it worse by covering for them.

Oxford Martyrs:
Is it out of the realm of possibility that someday the Bible will be labeled "hate speech" and banned? As sexual perversity spreads more and more people will become violently opposed to scripture. We can see that in the video. The violent actors hate the Bible, Jesus Christ and the Gospel. IMHO they are no different from the men in Sodom who were "wicked, great sinners against the Lord" Ge 13:13. Their actions are sins against the Lord. Think about that and where they are headed if we don't pray for them and lovingly tell them about Jesus.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

After the alt-left's tactics and supporting abominations which the alt-left is using to target, harass and persecute Christians (specifically Bible-believing Christians and Christian business owners) and conservatives in general, we ALL realize that something needs to change.

Mick Williams #wingnut disqus.com

“Chain of Custody”

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“Comic” (with no dialogue) shows A green monster (maybe Satan) is holding up a puppet of George Soros who is holding up a puppet of Nancy Pelosi who is holding up a puppet of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

The alt-left is the most hateful, psychotic, murderous group in the world. Their MO is to target, stalk, harass, and threaten those who disagree with them. They are known to issue death threats, death wishes and murder and rape fantasies. They prefer to berate and abuse women, children, the elderly and those who cannot defend themselves. You cannot reason with a sociopath. Don't waste your time trying to because they are not worth it...reprobates will only scream, bark, fake cry and howl like incoherent fools trampling upon pearls. Dust the dirt from your feet and prepare to defend yourself, should you have to. Watch and pray...

Amos Moses #homophobia disqus.com

you can put powdered sugar on a turd .... i does not then become a jelly donut ..... you defend DEPRAVITY ....... you are for abortion so you really do not care for children ..... so therefore you defend what pedophiles do ...... and the people using homosexual topics to make cartoons for children about sexual DEPRAVITY of HOMOMIRAGE ..... IS PEDOPHILIA ......

AND YOU DEFEND IT ..... BY DEFAULT .... YOU DEFEND PEDOPHILES AND WHAT THEY DO ..... you are not a real man ...... you are a homosexualist .... one who supports depravity ......... is that bigoted .... then .... COUNT ME IN ........

Lady Checkmate Amos Moses #fundie disqus.com

In response to Amos Moses’ explosive headline “PBS KIDS CARTOON 'ARTHUR' -- FOR CHILDREN AGE 4 TO 8 -- FEATURES GAY WEDDING IN SEASON PREMIERE ARTHUR'S BELOVED TEACHER COMES OUT IN EP. TITLED 'MR. RATBURN AND THE SPECIAL SOMEONE'”

Amos Moses:
pedophilia ........ they just cannot stop themselves ............

Lady Checkmate:
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(Image shows girl crying, caption is “1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys is a victim of child sexual abuse - STOP child sexual abuse”)

Lade Checkmate:
May God have mercy on America…
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(Image says “Long Term Effects of Sexual Abuse” - lists feelings of guilt and shame, feeling different or alone, sadness, confusion, anger, low self-esteem, dissociation, fear, hatred, depression, promiscuity, eating disorders, body image issues, anxieties, changes in lifestyle, turning to violence, substance abuse, self injurious behavior, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), Rape Trauma Syndrome (RTS).”)

Lady Checkmate:
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(Image says THIS IS NOT OKAY and shows a PAGEANT KID and a DRAG KID. Underneath photos of both is says THESE PARENTS MUST BE STOPPED - STOP THE NORMALIZATION OF CHILD SEXUALIZATION.

Lady Checkmate:
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(Image shows Desmond the drag kid with caption PRAY FOR HIM)

Lady Checkmate:
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(Image shows girl with hands covering her mouth, caption says SOCIETY NEEDS TO STOP! SEXUALIZING CHILDREN!)

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Truedummy hates Christians. He is not a Christian. In fact, he is a Christophobe. He is a hypocrite and Truth-denier. Like Obama, he promotes the antichrist's agenda. He is one of the worst things that has happened to Canada. Please pray for Christians in Canada.

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(Picture of Justin Trudeau, caption says “This socialist/Islamist hates Christians, Jews, Capitalism, America/Americans, Trump”)

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

The reprobate below is leading the charge against Christians. He set out on a one-man mission to berate, persecute and demean an elderly lady that was praying silently and women and children who were silently and peacefully protesting abortion. To reiterate the point, he's primarily focused on targeting, harassing, stalking, threatening and doxing Christian senior citizens, women and children. We need to send a loud, united message that this will not be tolerated.

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(Screenshot of a news article from Gay Star News titled “Brian Sims helps introduce new anti-discrimination bill in Pennsylvania”. The word “anti-discrimination” is crudely underlined in red, and a red arrow points towards it. On the other end of the arrow, written white on red: “How about you stop hating on Christians, @briansimspa???”)

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

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(poorly-drawn image of Alfred Hitchcock)

Good evening. No, I do not consider myself to be Spartacus. As society has become quite contentious of late, I find it wise to take certain precautions. Our enemy has apparently decided that his time is running out. Curiously, the same intelligentsia who scoff at God are readily embracing paganism and witchcraft. I'm reminded of the young man who insisted the sky was falling. Quite impossible, though anything becomes fact through hysterical repetition: evolution, planet warming, even switching one's gender. I shall refrain from subjecting the world to such an attempt on my part.

Our enemy's strategy seems a sort of pagan fascism. The parallels are remarkably consistent with that old playbook authored by leftist American thinkers who had such a profound influence on Herr Hitler. The global warming priesthood must appease the climate gods through ruinous and pointless 'carbon taxes'; those patriot heretics must be silenced; the abortion god Moloch must receive a steady diet to reduce our 'carbon footprint', whatever that is; doctored vaccines sterilize the young and rush the elderly to early graves. Perhaps Fauxcahontas and Spartacus are correct in their implied choice of trappings. In a world rapidly reverting to barbarism, the pagan elites are merely imitating their heroes from the dark ages.

I must now seek the safety of my new abode, a war surplus battle tank. It's completely impervious to the likes of CNN, so I may rest undisturbed by their sinister whispering. Good night.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate’s headline: “ALT-LEFT VIOLENCE INCREASES: Liberal student arrested for punching pro-lifer on UNC campus, triggered by images of aborted children”

(Link to Fox News story here: https://www.foxnews.com/us/liberal-student-arrested-punching-pro-lifer)

Lady Checkmate:
She is full of rage and hatred because she just came face-to-face with what abortion actually is and does to babies. I'm praying for her too now.

Mick Williams #fundie #conspiracy disqus.com

It's amazing how the left buried Margaret Sanger's mission to abort the black community out of existence (founder of Planned Parenthood). At one time, the black community represented 20% of the population. Recently it's less than 11% based on ease of getting abortions. And they call Christians bigots.

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