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Candace Owens & Dr. Robert Malone #crackpot #fundie #wingnut dailywire.com

Malone Interview: Owens Reveals Sam Harris Phone Call As Pair Discuss Godlessness And Pandemic Panic 

Daily Wire host Candace Owens and Dr. Robert Malone, a vaccine scientist who worked on the development of mRNA technology, discussed during their hours-long conversation how godlessness, or atheism, plays into pandemic panic.

The issue popped up after Owens detailed a phone conversation she had with ... Sam Harris …

...

“He sounded like he was in a bunker, and was just like, ‘You don’t understand, there’s going to be gurneys in the streets,’ and, ‘I know doctors in Italy, this is what’s going to happen in two weeks in the United States,’” Owens said Harris told her.

“He was in a mania,” she said. “I just sort of listened to him, because, in my head, I wanted to be kind, but I was looking at my husband, thinking, this man needs a therapist.”

“He was unstable,” she added ...

“I think it’s probably relevant that he’s an atheist,” Owens asserted.

Malone agreed with the analysis, offering that religious people have a stronger sense of community which grounds them and makes them less likely to fall into a “psychosis” or panic about an issue, in this case concerning COVID-19.
“You just hit on another key point,” the doctor told Owens. “Among those of us that have our eyes very wide open, there’s a very strong contingent of folks that have very strong religious beliefs systems — they’re grounded in that world. And one of the things that they all share, is they have a solid community. ...

“The intellectuals are as, or more prone” to such panic, Malone added.

Owens noted that, to her, there’s “no such thing as an atheist,” explaining that people will find one thing or another to make their god or their religion.

“People need to believe in something,” Owens said, referencing how “government has become god” to some, others have taken up the religion of climate change, and “Covid is now a religion,” which has religious “symbols” like wearing a mask to show virtue or goodness.

Various commenters on religion and atheism #conspiracy #crackpot #dunning-kruger #fundie #wingnut #pratt dailywire.com

[JesuCorSanctissimum]
The religious recognize that 1) evil is real, 2) it doesn't sleep, 3) it hates humanity and wants humanity degraded, controlled and dead.

[rikky18180]
One thing is certain one day everyone is going to learn that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. No escape from that eventual reality.

In this life for a Christian it’s the worst it’ll ever be, for the non Christian it’s the best it’ll ever be. Let that sink in.

[hai.phan6873]
the atheists worship their intellect. watch how angry they get when their intellect gets belittled. like how they went bonkers when Trump got elected. it's personal

[mac1647]
Believing there is no God requires more faith than believing there is.

[BigRedJedi]
There is no such thing as an "absence of belief" because without belief in "something else," as you put it, you would simply cease to exist. Humans are by dint of what we might call sentience (an awareness of our own existence and the interactions that we, as individuals, have with the outer world, by whatever physical or metaphysical definitions you "believe" in) creatures that depend on belief.

You might not believe in things that you cannot rationalize, observe, or measure, preferring to reject religious approaches to understanding things that science does not currently or cannot explain, but to rely purely upon the rational, observable, and measurable is no less a belief in something than a religious person believes in a spiritual component to existence.

Too many atheists take the simplistic inference that a rejection of the supernatural, divine, or religion absolves them of notions such as belief or faith, but the human experience is dependent upon both belief and faith, as without them we cannot have any meaningful interactions with the outside world or relationships with other beings within that world.

Luke Rosiak #fundie dailywire.com

[regarding the American Library Association…]

The librarians group, which has a significant influence on school libraries, has long been accused of serving literature with a side of far-left political influence on impressionable young minds. But what is just as notable as the extreme sex and ideology in its most recent favorites is the fact that it has seemingly abandoned literature altogether in favor of ideological tracts that don’t require so much pesky reading: comics.

YALSA’s “outstanding list of comics for teen readers ages 12 to 18″ is full of tracts like Gender Queer: A Memoir by Maia Kobabe, one of the books called out by a parent in Fairfax County, Virginia, who caused the school board to flee the stage, citing that children were present, when the parent simply read verbatim from materials she checked out of her child’s school library.

Maia rejects femininity in part because “I’m way too selfish for parenting. Plus, the thought of growing a parasite being [sic] inside my own body makes me want to vomit.”

As a young adult, Maia wears boys’ cartoon underwear and wants the “high-fantasy-gay-wizard-prince look of my dreams.” After dating a sex shop owner for two months, Maia’s partner says, “I got a new strap-on harness today. I can’t wait to put it on you it [sic] will fit my favorite dildo perfectly.” When the partner attaches the sex toy and performs oral sex on it, Maia complains that “I can’t feel anything.”

[The Daily Wire also has strong objections to the following comic:]

Superman Smashes The Klan: “In 1946, Lan-Shin (Roberta) Lee and her family move from Chinatown to central Metropolis and attempt to fit in with their neighbors. But when the Klan begins harassing the Lees, Roberta must team up with new friends to help Superman take down the Klan in this smart, action-packed adventure.”

Josh Hammer #fundie #homophobia dailywire.com

HAMMER: Remember Those Who Told Us Gay Marriage Would Not Lead To Polyamory? They Were Wrong.

“Slippery slope theory is a form of logical fallacy.” – Knaves and fools
The concerted social push is now unequivocally on to normalize non-monogamous, polyamorous relationships.

Just yesterday, CBS News ran a rather disturbing story entitled, “Not Just ‘One Big Orgy’: Fighting The Stigma Of Consensual Non-Monogamy.”

The article, we are informed, is timed to coincide with CBS News’ premiering this weekend an original glowing documentary entitled, “Speaking Frankly: Non-Monogamy.” The article not-so-subtly attempts to guilt-trip the reader to care more about the purported woes of polyamorous couples people: “It is illegal in all 50 states to be married to more than one person — which is known as polygamy, not polyamory,” the reader is told. “Polyamorous people who try different kinds of arrangements — such as a married couple with steady outside partners — run into their own legal problems.”

The timing of the CBS News and concomitant documentary overlaps rather naturally with the lascivious new sex scandal involving Congresswoman Katie Hill, Democrat of California. As The Daily Wire has reported, Hill is now under congressional investigation over allegations she engaged in a “throuple” sexual relationship with her estranged husband and an erstwhile female campaign staffer, in addition to a separate affair with a congressional staffer. But it is also worth nothing that as far back as 2012, “Polyamory: Married & Dating” became a relatively popular reality TV series. Vice, furthermore, wrote a laudatory piece in 2017 on polyamory entitled, “Polyamorists Are Secretive, Stigmatized, And Highly Satisfied.”

Well.

I am only 30 years old, and even I am old enough to remember how leftists and social libertarians alike repeatedly assured us social conservatives that the popular legalization — and, subsequently, imposed constitutionalization via risible black-robed fiat — of same-sex nuptials would lead to neither a normalization of non-monogamous relationships nor a push for polygamous “marriage” itself. Never mind that social conservatives, led by the veritable “What Is Marriage?”-authoring triumvirate of Sherif Girgis, Ryan T. Anderson, and Robert P. George, quite persuasively pointed out that the only reason human civilization ever came around to the number “two” as rightfully constituting a marriage is because it takes precisely two individuals — one biological male and one biological female — to create human offspring. Never mind that social conservatives quite persuasively pointed out that once you remove biologically based sexual complementarity from the definition of marriage, the removal of that underlying number “two” would also logically follow. Never mind that social conservatives, led by New York Times columnist Ross Douthat, persuasively argued that slippery slope social theory is not a “logical fallacy” — it is demonstrably borne out by real, tangible civilizational results over the span of at least the past half-century.

We are now here. The push for de-stigmatized polyamory — and, to be sure, the push quite soon for legalized polygamous “marriage” — is already unfolding right before our eyes. Purportedly “objective” CBS News, after all, is now publishing non-opinion section journalistic content that tries to shame monogamous readers into sympathizing with the legal “plight” of the polyamorous.

Those who reliably informed social conservatives that the de-coupling of sexual complementarity from the definition of marriage would not lead to such an obvious eventual social trend ought to now be held accountable for their merely shoddy prognoses, if they are to be given the benefit of the doubt — or their intellectual disingenuousness, if they are not to be given the benefit of the doubt. That would include Andrew Sullivan as far back as 1996 and any number of prominent pundits in the Obergefell v. Hodges decision year of 2015 — including Jonathan Rauch, William Saletan, and Cathy Young. Each and every one of these pundits and social theorists ought to be challenged and asked why he or she did not possess the logic- and common sense-based prescience to foresee what was so obvious to some of us.

In the interim, those of us who still proudly self-identify as social conservatives ought to dig in our heels. We have a new pernicious civilizational trend to fight, and it is happening right now.

Schnefferpepper #fundie dailywire.com

They have their own kind of evangelism going on. They consistently celebrate the rise of atheism with the misguided belief that Atheism = Rationality.

It is assumed that once everyone is Atheist and "Rational" then society will be perfect. Been poking around and they are open if not excited for religious tests for public servants and preventing "indoctrination" that religious parents would do by teaching their kids about their faith.

NIGELTEAPOT #fundie dailywire.com

godisdog NIGELTEAPOT • 2 days ago
What a fatuous remark. You're most likely a tubby lib who would call the cops if someone insulted you, but still find the time to criticize their response time.


NIGELTEAPOT godisdog • 2 days ago
you are a devil worshipper and a rather typical communist "useful
idiot" (as you push towards communism via "secularism"). I understand why you love m*rder and tyranny. but why are the other people here hypocrites?


godisdog NIGELTEAPOT • 2 days ago
Devil worshipper? Can you spell? In any event, I cannot worship something I do not believe in, such as your silly jesus or any of the other gods you imbeciles yammer about. And I am certainly no communist, not that you have the IQ to grasp economics anyway


NIGELTEAPOT godisdog • 2 days ago
Yes, demon, I can.

you are a pretty textbook devil worshipper. of course you hunger for death.

Why are many here on your side?

godisdog NIGELTEAPOT • 2 days ago
We are legion .............

Erick Erickson #fundie #wingnut dailywire.com

I would agree that something wicked is stirring right now. Scripture is clear there are things unseen, both good and bad. We should be perturbed at the rise of mass shootings, the renewed aggressiveness of abortion rights advocates, the censorious demands of LGBT activists and more. We should also be perturbed at the number of Christians who think they need a strong man in the White House to protect them when they claim to worship the God of the universe.

Andy Ngo #wingnut dailywire.com

Q: Why did you start collecting Antifa’s arrest records?

Ngo: It is an important information book for the public. Part of what makes Antifa a dangerous movement is that they rely on anonymity. And because the movement is anonymous the only information we have are through the arrest records and mugshots. Through that, I’ve been able to piece together a clearer picture of the demographics of who is involved.

Q: What kind of people are involved in Antifa?

Ngo: Antifa spans several classes of people. There are ideologues who are straight from the Ivory Tower, university students, and those who are vulnerable in dealing with instability and mental health issues related to homelessness and gender dysphoria. Antifa groups will welcome these people in, embrace them with a shared ideology and radicalize them. If they happen to get arrested or charged or convicted, these people are kind of easily disposed of, in a way? As much as I have been vocally critical against this movement, I do have sympathy insofar as they are people who have the potential to do a lot with their lives, but instead have been pulled into a movement that will use and discard them.

Q: Are you concerned for your safety, releasing the mugshots and arrest records?
Ngo: Yes. They have the address of my family, where my mother works, and they’re escalating [threats against me]. About six of them showed up at my home on Halloween and were pounding on the windows and doors. So I am concerned for my safety. Due to the threats, I’m not really able to stay in Portland much longer.
Q: Are there times that you think about moving on to another beat because of the danger?
Ngo: I think about that all the time. But if I don’t do it, there isn’t really anybody else.

Q: Are you concerned for your safety, releasing the mugshots and arrest records?
Ngo: Yes. They have the address of my family, where my mother works, and they’re escalating [threats against me]. About six of them showed up at my home on Halloween and were pounding on the windows and doors. So I am concerned for my safety. Due to the threats, I’m not really able to stay in Portland much longer.
Q: Are there times that you think about moving on to another beat because of the danger?
Ngo: I think about that all the time. But if I don’t do it, there isn’t really anybody else.

Q: Should Antifa be characterized as a terrorist group?
Ngo: I would describe their activities as terrorist activities. What makes them less deadly than jihadist groups is that they lack the funding streams to acquire weapons. But I think if they did have that, they would engage in that violence.
Q: Have you ever tried to speak with the members?
Ngo: Yes. I tried to let them know that they were misinformed about me. I did this every time up until my beating.
Q: What was it like, speaking to them?
Ngo: The point of wearing the black block is to make it so that these militants are no longer individuals — you’re part of a mass. So when I spoke to them, it wasn’t like I was speaking to an individual. It was like speaking to people who only had ideology.
Q: What kind of emotions did you see there under the surface?
Ngo: Anger and hatred. The times I have seen them attack people — they’re animalistic, I would say. The part of the brain that is driving them in those moments … it’s the primal desire to maim, to injure, to kill.
Q: I just want to circle back to your political views. What has shaped your ideology?
Ngo: I used to be a social justice warrior back in my undergrad days. I used to be someone who embraced the victimhood worldview, which is the undercurrent of the Antifa ideology. So I have a drive to show how this worldview is part of the same continuum toward the violent extremism of Antifa and other far-left movements. It’s not out of a partisan hatred, but rather I can see where they are coming from since that used to be appealing to me.
Q: What was appealing about the victimhood mentality?
Ngo: It was appealing to direct hatred and anger at others for my own failings because it meant I didn’t have to take responsibility. It’s much easier to blame a “system.”
Q: Was there a “Eureka” moment when you snapped out of that mentality?
Ngo: Yeah there was a moment where I had to finally come to terms with myself — that only I am responsible for my actions, my successes as well as my failures. I can blame everything and anything around me and while that may feel soothing, it doesn’t actually change the reality of my situation until I make different choices.
Q: Last but not least, how has your recovery been since the incident in June 2019?
Ngo: I’m doing a lot better, but I still struggle with cognitive stuff like memory. I have really intensive physical, occupational, and cognitive therapy to help me recover.

Matt Walsh #fundie dailywire.com

But "Easter worshippers" is a different thing entirely. Responding to the slaughter of hundreds of Christians during Easter attacks by radical Islamic terrorists, a number of prominent Democratic politicians chose to issue statements that glaringly omit any direct mention of the faith identity of the victims.

Barack Obama said this: "The attacks on tourists and Easter worshippers in Sri Lanka are an attack on humanity. On a day devoted to love, redemption, and renewal, we pray for the victims and stand with the people of Sri Lanka."

Hillary Clinton seemed to be working literally from the same script: "On this holy weekend for many faiths, we must stand united against hatred and violence. I'm praying for everyone affected by today's horrific attacks on Easter worshippers and travelers in Sri Lanka."

Several other Democrats latched onto this same phrase — "Easter worshippers." If just one of them had gone this route, perhaps I could be convinced that it might be clumsy wording and nothing more. But it is simply impossible to believe that several significant Democrats would all independently and innocently think to refer to Christian victims in such a roundabout and obscure way.

[...] But the general mass of people who show up to worship on Easter have always, in my experience, just been called Christians. It would be technically accurate to use a label like "Passover observers" in the place of "Jews" and "Ramadan commemorators" for "Muslims," but I can't imagine why anyone would be so unnecessarily vague and wordy. Unless, of course, there is some reason why they don't want to explicitly acknowledge the group in question. And that appears to be the case here.

As it happens, we don't need to wonder how the likes of Clinton and Obama would respond to a similar attack against Muslims. There was just such an attack a few weeks ago in New Zealand. Let's look at their statements.

Obama: "Michelle and I send our condolences to the people of New Zealand. We grieve with you and the Muslim community. All of us must stand against hatred in all its forms."

Clinton: "My heart breaks for New Zealand & the global Muslim community. We must continue to fight the perpetuation and normalization of Islamophobia and racism in all its forms. White supremacist terrorists must be condemned by leaders everywhere. Their murderous hatred must be stopped."

This gives the game away. No rational person could fail to notice a stark contrast between these statements and the ones issued in response to nearly 300 butchered Christians on Easter Sunday. They both make sure to use the word "Muslim." Clinton goes further and ropes in "Islamophobia" and "[w]hite supremacist terrorists." Not only does she omit "Christian" from her comments on Sri Lanka, but she certainly says nothing about "Christophobia" and "Islamic terrorists."

Are we supposed to believe that this is a mere coincidence? If so, is it also a coincidence that Hillary Clinton, who accidentally forgot the word "Christian" yesterday on Easter, did not forget the phrase "LGBT community" after the shooting at a gay club in Orlando three years ago? Of course not. There is a purpose behind this, and the purpose matters.

Christians are among the most persecuted groups on the planet. On a monthly basis, hundreds are murdered for their faith, hundreds more are locked in prison without just cause, and dozens of churches are burned or vandalized. Indeed, the most shocking thing about yesterday's tragedy is how utterly routine it has become. It was only two years ago that over a hundred Christians were killed in explosions at Palm Sunday services in Egypt. Many Christians across the world know that they take their lives into their hands when they gather for worship. This fact — that Christians are not only a victim group, but are one of the most victimized groups — is extraordinarily inconvenient for Democrats, who have structured their whole agenda around their victimhood narrative. By their telling, racial minorities, women, homosexuals, and Muslims are The Victims while white men and Christians are The Bad Guys. This dichotomy would be thrown wildly out of balance and sent into disarray if Christians were admitted into the victim column — especially because they are so often victimized by Muslim extremists.

No, the Democrats can't have that. So they usually ignore the genocide of Christians, and often enact policies that make it worse. And when they are forced, on the rare occasion, to acknowledge an attack of this sort, they will do it without saying anything that might give ignorant Americans the impression that there is a real systematic problem of Christians being constantly blown up and murdered by Muslim extremists. But the systematic problem is real, even if these conniving cowards won't admit it.

Wayne Allyn Root #fundie dailywire.com

Trump Culture is a Monster as Dangerous as D.C.

Sunday, at a pro-Trump rally in Las Vegas, Nevada, political commentator Wayne Allyn Root gave a brief speech that can be viewed as a microcosm of the entire 2016 election cycle.

"Welcome to the Trump revolution!" Root yelled. "The peasants, the surfs, and the taxpayers with pitchforks, jackhammers, and blowtorches are headed for Washington D.C. Can you hear us? We're putting the D.C. elite on notice. We're coming to tear it down, we're coming to rip it up, we're coming to kick your ass! And we're coming to put you in prison!"

The crowd cheered like tweens at a One Direction concert.

Root enthusiastically led the rally in a "Lock Her Up" chant. He then continued, noting that "in the face of awful fake polls," he made a bet on the GOP nominee to win, saying Trump is more than a person, "he's an idea...a big, beautiful, gigantic middle finger."

After some raunchy puns about WikiLeaks and Anthony Weiner, Root proceeded to make an unusual analogy:

"The networks have wall-to-wall coverage of a live police chase, and it's Hillary in a white Ford Bronco. She's got Huma driving, and they're headed for the Mexican border. I have a name for the future TV movie, it's called 'Driving Miss Hillary,' and the ending--if we all get our wish, the ending is like 'Thelma & Louise.'"

Richard Williams #fundie dailywire.com

(=Twitter Is Going Crazy Over This Gay Nativity Scene=)

Sorry, but this is physically impossible. There's got to be a mother somewhere, unless you are going to say it is a miracle, but then if you believe in miracles, why wouldn't you believe in what the Bible says in the first place . . .?

Hannah R. McClintock #fundie dailywire.com

[Sorry for a WTF source, but the only non-wingnut sites covering this were Liveleak and Portland PD homesite itself.]

On Saturday, a 19-year-old so-called "anti-fascist" protester was arrested after she punched and spat on demonstrators at a #HimToo rally in Portland.

The #HimToo rally was organized by conservative activist Haley Adams to draw awareness to the sexual victimization of men and the falsely accused. Left-wing counter-protesters showed up to disrupt the event. Demonstrators and at least one reporter on site were harassed and assaulted by the agitators. The rally ended with a total of six arrests.

In footage captured by independent journalist and Quillette Magazine editor Andy C. Ngo, a young Antifa counter-protester later identified as Hannah R. McClintock by the Portland Police Bureau confronts male demonstrators at the rally. Backed by a chant of "We believe survivors" by her fellow Antifa activists, McClintock gets herself into a fighting stance and waves on the demonstrators to apparently engage in a physical altercation with her. She also spits on them as she repeatedly yells the word "b****."

Later in the video, McClintock physically assaults the male demonstrators.

Two #HimToo activists are heard in the video directing their fellow protesters not to fight back against the female and to "calm down."

"Let it happen, let it happen," says one of the protesters. "Don't touch her. Let her attack us, let her attack us."

Apparently failing to elicit the reaction she wants, the aggressive Antifa female continues with her antics. McClintock repeatedly gets in the men's faces and spits on them yet again.

"It's all good, it's all good," a #HimToo protester says calmly in response. "Let her spit. It's all good."

McClintock assaults a #HimToo protester once again before a swarm of Portland officers take her away.

"McClintock was arrested near Southwest 3rd Avenue and Southwest Taylor Street. McClintock was lodged at the Multnomah County Jail on a charge of Harassment," says a press release from the Portland Police Bureau.

Rush Limbaugh #conspiracy dailywire.com

Were the intercepted bombs mailed to various high profile Democrats actually sent in some sort of "false flag" operation to help Democrats at the ballot box come November?, asked conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday.

Law enforcement confirmed Wednesday that potentially-explosive packages sent in the mail were addressed to seven big name Democrats: former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former President Barack Obama, former Attorney General Eric Holder, Democratic mega-donor George Soros, former CIA chief John Brennan, and Congresswoman Maxine Waters.

Limbaugh openly questioned why any right-winger would be behind such an operation when Republicans have been dominating politically and such acts would only work to hurt the party. Implying some sort of left-wing operation, Rush asked if "these bombs were intended to be discovered in screening" and not actually meant to cause harm to the individuals addressed on the packages.

"Were these bombs intended to be discovered in screening?" asked Limbaugh. He also questioned how "someone smart enough to make a bomb" could be "dumb" enough to think such packages would actually be sent to Soros or Obama.

"It doesn’t make any sense for a Republican or conservative to do this," suggested the talk show host. "If they really care about winning these elections, this makes no sense to do. This is gonna be instant fodder for the Democrats and the media to blame it on Trump and his supporters. .... It doesn’t make any sense for ... a Republican or conservative, to do this, if they care about the elections. None whatsoever."

It would, however, make sense if a Democrat(s) were behind the devices, suggested Limbaugh. Everything has backfired on the Democrats, from their wild tactic with now Supreme Court Judge Brett Kavanaugh to their uptick in "mob" tactics, he noted.

"Would it make a lot of sense for a Democrat operative or Democrat-inculcated lunatic to do it? Because things are not working out the way they thought," he said, adding, "Things that are supposed to cement it, like the Kavanaugh trick backfires, and these mobs are backfiring. They are not achieving their objectives."
"What sense does it make for a conservative Republican to gum up the works here by sending a bunch of bombs that are not gonna go off and that are gonna be discovered? It doesn’t make any sense in any way, shape, manner, or form," emphasized the radio host.

Limbaugh then read the following tweet from freelance journalist Alessandra Bocchi: "As a journalist, my job is to be skeptical. Terrorist attacks are committed during times of desperation, not victory. People who’ve won against Obama/Clintons/Soros have no reason to attack them now, when they’ve all but become irrelevant."
"Exactly my point!" Limbaugh exclaimed.

"I asked it just a moment ago: Who on our side's worried about the Clintons? We’re laughing at 'em. A nationwide stadium tour with Bill and Hillary? Are they gonna have the 'Bimbo Eruption Section' where those babes get comped? And Obama? Folks, Obama? I’m telling you, he can’t draw crowds. He’s out there trying to claim credit for this economy when he wouldn’t know how to create it!" he continued. "In fact, the Democrats are the people that have people on their side that love bombs! Bill Ayers! One of Obama's buddies, in fact. I'm not saying that there’s any connection. Do not misunderstand me. But Alessandra Bocchi is right on the money here."

"There are no coincidences with [the Clintons]," posited Limbaugh.

"In fact, you know, you say these are all deep state players — Soros, Bill and Hillary, Obama and so forth. It is curious. They’re not even on the radar in the midterms when you get down to it, other than they’re trying to get themselves on the radar. But see, that’s the thing. They’re trying to get noticed," he said. "The Clintons desperately need to be noticed all the time, and Obama is trying to recapture some glory, trying to show everybody he can still move the needle. It isn’t working."

various commenters #sexist dailywire.com

Re: Cops Say 13-Year-Old Boy Traumatized From Endless Sex With Hot Teacher

(Brandon)
This kid wasn't traumatized, this is the dream of every 13 year old with a hot teacher. That doesn't make it ok, it still messed up. But this kid is anything but traumatized, he's going to talk about this for most of his life.

(Guest)
I have to agree. There is a double standard I acknowledge that but this kid is going to be bragging about this for the rest of his life. I'm not saying it's ok. The teacher is a weirdo and the parents are nuts.

(Brandon)
I live in the town this happened, I never stop hearing coverage on it. According to every single one of the people who knew of there relationship, they say the boy sparked the start of this relationship.

The only thing that probably will traumatize him, is the abortion the teacher had with his child.

(T llama)
yer probably sick of this thread, but....

I think this falls under the fundamental difference between men and women. Or in this case boys and girls.

Was this 'wrong?' Yes.

Is this going to mess the boy up for life? Prolly not, especially as he encounters real women and not sexual predators. Your point that it can mess with this boys view of sex and women is correct, but speaking as a man, who was once a boy, I don't believe this isnt anything that wont get worked out in this boy's life as he grows up and meets strong female role models. Of course having a child at 13-14 yrs old is another discussion...

I won't say this was OK simply because the boy (IMO) is not messed up for life. I agree with you, there are laws to protect children and those laws are good ones; for boys and girls.

Not being a woman, i do believe in a world that glorifies and pushes women as objects (trump's experiences with women is a perfect example) i see how women (girls) are more vulnerable to this type of predatory behavior.

Again, this is just one of those things in life that can't be applied equally across the sexes. It was wrong. A child as a result is FUBAR but given it was a woman taking advantage of a boy, I'm less inclined to be bothered by it.

Take advantage of a 13yr old girl and i'll string you up myself. This might be considered sexist, but i still believe in women and children first....which is prolly sexist to some.

I think the difference of opinion, throughout this thread, is that some see this as a black and white issue and some of 'us' see this as a shade of gray.

If we are on a sinking ship; ill evacuate after women and children; not sure what would constitute a 'child' in that situation, but personally, 17 and younger. An 18 yr old guy may have to fight me for that last seat on the life boat;)

In 'this' situation, with some admittance of double standard (i wanted to say hippocrasy but cant seem to spell it;)) men see this different, even 13 yr old boys dealing with puberty; its different. Something a woman cannot understand as a man and vs versa.

'We' see this as an offense, but not as disgusting as if the sexes were reversed and 'I' believe that offense against a female of that age to be way worse.

Double standard. I admit it. But I am a guy. Was once a boy. Were you? Its one of those situations ya may have to yield to experience; as I would if the situation was reversed.

(mousekiller)
soon it will be the norm and any misgivings you and I have about it is moot. The leftists liberals are killing this country. Temoving any morals we have. Look at how they have changes the bathroom( restroom) by alowig boys in the girls restroom, lockers rooms and showers. WHF is going on with this country? It is time to say NO MORE . If you have the equipment of a male, your a male . It doesn't matter if you are wearing a skirt and lipstick. Use the mens room. ( unless of course your afraid your ass will be laughed at. If your a man and my daughter and or grand daughter is in womans restroom and you go in . You will be a woman when you come out..Enough is enough. Lets face it. If we don't stand up for our selves we are alone.

(stu magoo)
legally raped? as opposed to illegally raped? explain the difference please. never mind. every red blooded heterosexual 13 y/o boy would be bragging about this forever. that doesn't make it right for the teacher, but the kid being traumatized? please!

(REALConservative)
The month I turned 14, one of the 30'something married female chaperone's of our church youth group made me a man in the back of her van in the parking lot of a roller skating rink.

I never told an adult because I was afraid my parents would beat MY a... if they found out.

She and her husband owned a christian book store; let's just say folks were impressed with how much I liked to go to the christian book store; they were convinced I was going to be a a preacher. Such is not the behavior of a traumatized young boy.

(mousekiller)
It is every boys dream to be involved in a sex situation like that . No boy that age is a puritan. It is a natural feeling and urge and few young men ever get the chance to satisfy that natural urge. . Not even consider the legality of it. I damn sure would not have turned her down were it me when I was 13 if the opportunity presented it's self to me.. Neither would 99% of the men posting here. How many 13 year olds consider the law when ogling the scantly clothed women in magazines and on the street or in Walmart? Lets face it walking down the street in beach wear turns a lot of heads..Fires up the imagination. in young men.

Tom W #fundie dailywire.com

Man oh man do liberals get upset if you bring up the fact that the victims were overwhelmingly adolescent males targeted by homosexual priests. How many news reports have you read that point this out? Few. Being gay does not incline a priest to abuse children; however, most of the priests who abused children were gay and most of their victims were boys

Trev Noceslaf #fundie dailywire.com

WRONG! I’ve worked with pedos for years & it’s HOMOSEXUALITY!! Face the facts & drop the propaganada! You’re helping NO ONE and protecting/defending MONSTERS!!

You are an ACCOMPLICE with the shade you’re throwing!

Matt Walsh #fundie #homophobia dailywire.com

Bishop Morlino of Madison displayed courage rare among American bishops when he published a letter this weekend which gets right to the heart of the matter of the abuse of children within the Catholic Church. Here is what he said, in part:
It is time to admit that there is a homosexual subculture within the hierarchy of the Catholic Church that is wreaking great devastation in the vineyard of the Lord. The Church’s teaching is clear that the homosexual inclination is not in itself sinful, but it is intrinsically disordered in a way that renders any man stably afflicted by it unfit to be a priest. And the decision to act upon this disordered inclination is a sin so grave that it cries out to heaven for vengeance, especially when it involves preying upon the young or the vulnerable. Such wickedness should be hated with a perfect hatred. Christian charity itself demands that we should hate wickedness just as we love goodness. But while hating the sin, we must never hate the sinner, who is called to conversion, penance, and renewed communion with Christ and His Church, through His inexhaustible mercy.

At the same time, however, the love and mercy which we are called to have even for the worst of sinners does not exclude holding them accountable for their actions through a punishment proportionate to the gravity of their offense. In fact, a just punishment is an important work of love and mercy, because, while it serves primarily as retribution for the offense committed, it also offers the guilty party an opportunity to make expiation for his sin in this life (if he willingly accepts his punishment), thus sparing him worse punishment in the life to come. Motivated, therefore, by love and concern for souls, I stand with those calling for justice to be done upon the guilty.

There is plenty to be said about his appropriate and necessary call to hatred of sin — a call you rarely hear from leaders of the Catholic Church, or any other church — but the first sentence of that paragraph is most notable. Here is a high ranking official in the Church admitting, finally, that there is a "homosexual subculture within the hierarchy" which is directly linked to the sex abuse scandals.

It is important to emphasize that this is not a matter of a bunch of individual gay priests who just so happened to wind up in the Church. There is an actual gay culture, as the Bishop notes — or a "homosexual undergound," as another report puts it — and it is "wreaking devastation." Last week I mentioned the priest in Tampa who revealed just how this organized network of homosexuals operates and what sort of tactics they use to intimidate and blackmail other priests into silence. Do those who wish to deny the link between homosexuality and the abuse crisis believe that this priest is making up stories? Why would he make up stories? What does he gain from it?

And is this report from Catholic News Agency made up? It exposes a rampant gay culture in the Archdiocese of Newark, where the homosexual predator Cardinal McCarrick was archbishop for a number of years:
Seminarians and priests from ordination classes spanning 30 years, during the terms of McCarrick and Myers, reported to CNA that they had observed an active homosexual subculture of priest and seminarians within Newark’s Immaculate Conception Seminary.

One priest ordained in the early years of McCarrick’s term in Newark said that “a lot of people lost their innocence in the seminary.”

He told CNA that there were two distinct groups of students. “You had the men who were there because they had a deep love of the Lord and a vocation to serve his Church,” he said, adding that those men were the majority of seminarians.

“But there was a subculture, with its own group of men, that was openly homosexual and petty and vindictive with everyone else,” he explained.

The same priest said that before he entered the seminary he was warned he would “see things that weren’t right.” He said he was counseled by an older priest to “just remember who you are and why you are there.”

Several Newark priests told CNA that the same atmosphere existed under Archbishop John Myers, who led the archdiocese from 2001-2016.

One priest who studied during that period recalled being told, as a newly arrived seminarian, to lock his bedroom door at night to avoid “visitors.”

“I thought they were kidding – they really weren’t,” he said.

Another priest told CNA that, as a senior seminarian and transitional deacon, young seminarians would come to him in tears.

“They were just so scandalized by what they saw, these upperclassmen flagrantly carrying on with each other in gay relationships.”

A third priest says that these seminarians were frequently visited by other priests of the diocese, some of whom he later saw at the rectory cocktail parties.

“There was definitely a group of, well I guess we’re calling them ‘uncles’ now. They would come by to visit with the effeminate crowd, bring them stuff and take them out,” he said.

If you're wondering what those "rectory cocktail parties" consisted of, here are a few details:
One recalled that he attended a cocktail party, thinking he had been invited to a simple priests’ dinner.

“I was led into the room to a chorus of wolf-whistles,” he said. “It was clear right away I was ‘on display.’”

Another priest told CNA that he was also invited to a party hosted by the priest. “They were all carrying big mixed drinks, pink ones, it was like something out of Sex in City.”

He recalled that after asking for a beer, he was told by his host, “you need to try something more girly tonight.”

All recounted overtly sexual conversation at the cocktail parties. “I was fresh meat and they were trying me out,” one priest said.

All three said they left quickly upon realizing what was going on.

“Everyone was getting loaded and getting closer on the couches, I wanted out of there,” a priest told CNA.

“Everyone kept calling me a ‘looker’ and saying they had to ‘keep me around’ from now on,” a third Newark priest told CNA.

The current Archbishop of Newark, Cardinal Tobin, released a letter denying the existence of a gay culture in the archdiocese. But before you decide whether to take him seriously, keep in mind that this is the same liberal Cardinal who endorsed an "LGBT pilgrimage and Mass" in Newark. And it is the same Cardinal who recently and mysteriously tweeted and then deleted, "Nighty, night baby. I love you." He claimed it was supposed to be a private message to his sister. I suppose it is possible that the liberal, gay-apologist Cardinal of an archdiocese where priests attend gay cocktail parties meant to send a private message like that to his 65-year-old sister, but a reasonable person may have his suspicions.

We must evaluate the sort of bishops and priests who are crying out about the problem of homosexuality within the priesthood, and the sort of bishops and priests who are denying that such a problem exists, and decide which group is more credible. Personally, I have a much easier time trusting Bishop Molino than Cardinal Nighty Night and his ilk.
And once we have accepted the fact that homosexuality represents a serious challenge within the priesthood, it begins to make sense that the great majority of abuse victims have been males. If homosexuality within the Church were not a problem, why wouldn't the great majority of abuse victims have been female, as per the distribution of sexual orientation within the population at large? To ignore a problem that contributes to the abuse of male children in the priesthood is politically correct at best, and dangerous at worst.

wfmcfp #fundie dailywire.com

The first person that's joined me in the "anti-science" / "science" hypocrisy.
"...It is certainly ironic how liberals who posture as defenders of science when it comes to global warming ( a
sentimental myth unsupported by evidence ) flee all reference to biology when it comes to gender."
So true. Poor so-called 'scientific data' for global warming, a myth which could change the economy of the entire world, taking us down,....against "I feel, therefore, I am."...with ZERO science. Hypocrisy.

wfmcfp #fundie dailywire.com

I agree. Gender confusion is real and needs a more honest approach. We are injuring people in 'our' attempt to 'help them' feel included or 'ok'. If we really care we will speak the truth...in love. I know of a person who went off and began a transgender change. He's always been very emotionally unstable. For years no one even knew where he was, including his family. He's fathered a couple children of different women and has nothing to do with either. Now, in his 40's, nearly completely bald and extremely hairy chested, he's having surgical procedures done, wearing a wig, wearing a bra, and taking hormones. I am so discouraged surgeons will do this to a person for this is PERMANENT. He's still so very unhappy and lost. I do not feel he's been treated fairly. This P.C. anything goes stuff really needs to be pushed back against, for the health and safety of others.

Multiple #sexist dailywire.com

Caleb Mills: It's kind of crazy how the left thinks the right is dividing the country when the left is literally segregating all types of people by characteristics they cannot control and putting them on a spectrum of "goodness" based upon said unalterable characteristics. No person's unalterable characteristics should get in the way of someone living out their normal life, it should be their character and actions that speak for what type of person they are, and boy are the left speaking loudly about how terrible they are.

ladykrystyna: Exactly. They lump everyone into groups and then decide who is the most aggrieved and that group will always win. It's deliberately divisive. Now we fight each other from within these tribes rather than standing together and saying - NO! we may not agree on everything, but we won't be divided this way. We have to work together."

Unfortunately, as a group, human beings are more like mobs and sheep.

Jason Liles: that's why Trump should go transgender. Then any criticism can be deemed as hate speech and the left would be forced to accept him..

Andy Prosseda: And when he does, he MUST insist, at EVERY press conference, that they refer to him as the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT of the United States.
Of course, we're just dreamin' here, but if any President might do something like that, it's Trump

Carl Carlson: Standing clapping / laughing till my side hurt

Steve Tallent: “I identify as a women in my dealings with the press and on Twitter. In all other aspects of my life, I identify as a man. Who are you to say that I can’t do this? You say gender is in the brain and those are the times my brain wants to be female.”

Bob Barr: Your just looking for attention. If your born a male your a male...simple as that. Your body isn't screwed up your mind is.

VastlyEducated #fundie dailywire.com

There is absolutely no difference between a 14 yo girl and a 30 yo girl other than the fact that the 30 yo is fast approaching the brick wall. We need to break out of this mentality that teenage girls are children - they're not. Women reach their mental peak around 14 and as nature intended are ready to reproduce. Women are mentally perpetual teenagers and do not mature beyond the mid-teens.