With respect to the Bible being a 'source'. The Bible , King James version is THE foundation of the English language, it is HARD-WIRED in your brain, Drs. Doman and Delicato of the Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential in Philedelphia have published extensively on this topic. ( that of language being instrumental in shaping the human mind, literally, the synapse and their pathways)
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THE STUPID IT BURNS!
The English language was developed over many centuries and incorporates elements of Celtic, Norse, Latin, and French.
That's the most patently ridiculous assertion concerning linguistics I have ever seen -- which is really saying something!Venus Rising From The Waves is "THE foundation" of paint.
This guy is doing a truly stellar job of not only putting the cart before the horse, but claiming that the cart is necessary for the horse to exist!
How about an award of "There Go The Last Shreds of Linguistics" for this one?
~David D.G.
Well, I was going to mention how we've been learning about the origins of English in school this past couple of weeks, and how it was Beowulf , Caedmon's Hymn, the Canterbury Tales, and other works, which define English (and that of course it was events like the invasion of England by varioud groups over the years that truly was responsible for the way the language is), but David D.G. has addressed this fundie post more eloquently than I ever could.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Institutes_for_The_Achievement_of_Human_Potential
It would seem that Doman and Delacato, along with their institute, are held as quacks by many in the medical community.
Well, consider that English is spoken LONG BEFORE THIS PARTICULAR TRANSLATION WAS PUBLISHED. What about Chaucer, for example?(note, your theory of language development deserves a Darwin award)
With respect to the Bible being a 'source'. The Bible , King James version is THE foundation of the English language, When you capitalize THE like that, does it mean that there is only one foundation of the English language? You discount all parent languages, Shakespeare, Chaucer et al.
it is HARD-WIRED in your brain, Drs. Doman and Delicato of the Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential in Philedelphia have published extensively on this topic. ( that of language being instrumental in shaping the human mind, literally, the synapse and their pathways) If English is your first language then The Holy Bible is literally the foundation of your mind.
Language perhaps, but I don't think that the researchers cited would extend the meaning of their research to your wild conclusion. Lying for Christ again.
I think that they would have spelled Philadelphia correctly too.
How does that grab you?!"
Canadian Malcontent
Embarased to be a Canadian, that's how it grabs me.
Quit acting like you know anything about where language comes from, fucktard.
"With respect to the Bible being a 'source'. The Bible , King James version is THE foundation of the English language,"No, it is not. The foundations of English are much further back than 1611. The KJV isn't even a very good translation as the number of Bible manuscripts available at that time was few and they were all "late" manuscripts. I would agree that a knowledge of the KJV is necessary for cultural literacy as many idioms in English have roots in the KJV.
"it is HARD-WIRED in your brain,"
No, it is not. Breathing, swallowing, suckling, peeing, pooping and crying are hard-wired into human brains. Bible stories told in Elizabethan English are not hard-wired into anyone's brain.
"Drs. Doman and Delicato of the Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential in Philedelphia have published extensively on this topic."
"Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential?" I don't know, but offhand that doesn't sound like a very reliable research institution.
"( that of language being instrumental in shaping the human mind, literally, the synapse and their pathways)"
OK, I'll buy that, but that doesn't at all mean that the KJV is hard-wired into anyone's brain.
"If English is your first language then The Holy Bible is literally the foundation of your mind."
Don't be such an obtuse butthead. People were speaking English well before there was any Bible translated into English.
"How does that grab you?!"
It reaches out with the clammy, twisted hand of illogic, grips me around the neck and makes me want to puke. How 'bout you.
I found site for the Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential (http://www.iahp.org/ ) and another discussing the institute; which is a place for the treatment of autistic children or as they like to refer to them, brain-injuries (http://www.autism-pdd.net/testdump/test397.htm ).http://www.sro.nysed.gov/2000/00-037.htm it states in a legal issue that, "The program is based upon the Doman-Delacato theory for the treatment of children with "brain injuries". The theory is premised upon a belief that the brain develops in an orderly way and that treatment should be focused at the actual site of the injury [...]
. Brain development is fostered by providing various types of stimulation. The program includes a technique referred to as masking, which involves placing a plastic mask over the child's mouth and nose for one minute intervals every six to ten minutes to provide a slight increase in carbon dioxide. When carbon dioxide rises above a certain level, a reflex is stimulated which produces an increase in the rate and depth of breathing thus increasing the oxygen level in the blood [...]. This reportedly creates an increased blood flow to the brain which improves brain functioning [...]."
Someone have links to all those "This book I've never read is evil" quotes, cause brilliance here came out with:
Wycliffe produced the first English Language bible based on the Latin bible (Latin vulgaris - ie Catholic authorised common bible). It was truly a literal translation and thus made no real sense within the English grammar constructs. Wycliffe was excommunicated, died (however) and later his bones were dug up and incinerated. Just to show him. (your eternal soul apparantly relied on the existance of your mortal coil, in direct opposition to what the Church claimed...)
That assumes, that you cannot have a thought without language. However, that is not true.
King James English the foundation of our language? Please. Following is an excerpt of English from the 1300's...
@Illuvatarwen
Enlglish is not only my first language, it's my heretige as I am English.
You mean the English language was developed just so the Bible could be translated into it? If you happen to learn English first then a translation of a book was already hardwired into your mind and the book was already your actual mind but a translation founded... English... hardwired... *BOOM*
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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