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Quote# 137361

Confronting the Gay Priest Problem

Recently, a priest who was prominent in the pastoral care of those with sex addictions received his fifteen minutes of fame when he revealed to his congregation at a Sunday Mass and to the National Catholic Reporter that he was “gay.” According to news reports, his self-congratulation was met with thunderous applause. In a television interview, he proclaimed there is “nothing wrong with being gay.”

The game plan of a gay priest “coming out” was quite predictable and is politically effective. In revealing his homosexuality, the Midwestern priest was careful to assemble a string of ambiguous assertions that cannot be immediately assailed on grounds of orthodoxy, but when bundled together are morally subversive. Here is the template:

* Claim that sexual transparency is a matter of personal integrity.
* Remind the public that you are a Catholic priest in good standing.
* Proudly proclaim that you are “gay.”
* Cultivate the adulation of your congregation by claiming victim status and the freedom that comes from such an honest revelation.
* As a pre-emptive strike against disciplinary actions by ecclesiastical authorities claim that your self-revelation is truly courageous.
* Feign humility and presume you have become a necessary role model for others.
* Remind us that you and all gays (and members of the alphabet soup of sexual perversion) are created in the image of God (implying our sinful neglect).
* Commit to celibacy (i.e., not to marry), but carefully avoid the term “Christian chastity.”

Each of these assertions, standing alone, would likely withstand ecclesiastical censure. But when woven together, the gay agenda promoting the acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle within the Church comes into a clear focus.

The priest’s bishop also responded according to a predictable contemporary ecclesiastical template: “We support [the priest] in his own personal journey and telling his story of coming to understand and live with his sexual orientation. As the Church teaches, those with same-sex attraction must be treated with understanding and compassion.”

The bishop probably succeeded in preventing a media firestorm. He also effectively allowed the priest to rise in stature as a gay freedom fighter. The studied moral ambiguity of the clerical gay activist proved to be an effective political buzz saw. The full and beautiful teachings of Christ on human sexuality, however, were further undermined.

Faithful and orthodox Catholics are at a political disadvantage in our gay-friendly culture. We realize that same-sex inclinations – as with all seriously sinful inclinations – cause great suffering and, unrestrained, can become a true slavery that endangers others including adolescents and even young children. But our opposition to the gay agenda is often crudely characterized as hateful and unreasonable. So a brief sketch of natural law in Catholic sexual morality may be helpful.

Male and female sex organs differ and have a unique reproductive function. The body of every human being contains a self-sufficient digestive or respiratory system. But it only contains half of a reproductive system and must be paired with a half-system belonging to a person of the opposite sex in order to carry out its function. These are undeniable biological facts.

“To engage in sex” is a relational term that implies male and female complementarity. Only a male and a female truly “engage in sex.” In contrast, same-sex “relations” involve the exercise of one’s sexual power, but not according to its self-evident nature. Sodomy is not really relational “sex.” It is merely a masturbatory use of sexual powers. Similarly, there is no such thing as “sexual relations” with a “sex robot” (alas, an emerging technology).

When a priest claims to be “gay and proud,” he is revealing that he has assented to his same-sex attraction. Free and deliberate thoughts have moral implications, as Jesus asserted: “But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” (Mt 5:28) The difference between internal assent and external action is only a matter of a sinful opportunity. An unabashed and proud “gay” priest has already committed sodomy in his heart.

So how might an ecclesiastical superior defend Church teaching if one of his priests (or religious) claims a special dignity by “coming out” as gay? The superior should invoke immutable Christian moral principles in dealing with a self-described gay priest:

* Acknowledge that he is afflicted with “same-sex attraction” (SSA).
* Admit that SSA is an inclination toward mortal sin that if not restrained will lead him and others to eternal damnation.
* Identify and renounce any physical expression of SSA.
* Properly define celibacy to include Christian chastity that precludes all sexual activity in thought, word or deed.
* Invoke Scriptural references condemning sodomy (cf. Genesis and Saint Paul).
* Renounce the use of the word “gay” because it is a political term that has its roots in the homosexual subculture.
* Apologize for encouraging others to publicly reveal their mortally sinful inclinations. (The Eighth Commandment protects natural secrets.)

After a careful inquiry, the superior should release a public statement of clarification, prohibiting the priest from his homosexual activism and taking further personnel action according to the demands of Catholic morality and Canon Law.

Would a media firestorm ensue? Probably. But the superior would courageously confirm that the studied ambiguity of the gay agenda promoted by the priest is a lie.

During the rite of ordination for priests, the bishop says, “May God who has begun the good work in you bring it to fulfillment.” Priests – and everyone – are in a constant state of change, for the better or for the worse. Fulfilling the duties of Holy Orders or any Christian vocation with true moral integrity is a lifelong task.

If we are going to find our true and final happiness in Christ, we must not only recognize and understand our sinful inclinations, but make firm and constant efforts to overcome them. “Celebrating” those inclinations simply makes no sense – whether the inclination is same-sex attraction or any other deviation from God’s plan for us.

Rev. Jerry J. Pokorsky, The Catholic Thing 12 Comments [3/20/2018 4:19:21 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 137269

One of our deathscorts recently told us that they were "saving those babies from a life of sin."

An abortuary worker told us that "everyone has to die sometime."

Notice that they both affirm the personhood - and humanity - of the child in the womb.

I'm sure that NAMBLA supporters can find "benefits" for the child being preyed upon too.

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet, Live Action News 7 Comments [3/20/2018 7:22:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137332

Yup, I completely agree with this its against are biology. Homosexuality is a mental disorder because it contradicts what we are naturally meant to do, reproduce by being attracted to the opposite sex. Fucking degenerates, they all deserve death tbh.

Sadist, incels.me 11 Comments [3/20/2018 9:16:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137324

(A picture reading, "IF YOU STILL VOTE YOU'RE A COP!")

#vote #war crimes #genocide #torture #terrorism #don't consent #don't vote #don't legitimize extortion #legalized extortion

symmetricalart, Tumblr 11 Comments [3/20/2018 9:15:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 137326

(=A response to the post "Why I consider the KJV only crowd a cult" - ironically the post was written by a known flat earth advocate=)

According to "Scholars" the reason these verses where left out or completely mangled from the Bible is because they found "earlier, more reliable" manuscripts, and these manuscripts where different than the manuscripts the KJV was translated from. They are talking about the sinaciticus and vaticanus texts. The Alexandrian cults created these texts and corrupted the Bible, and rejected throughout the centuries by the church as heretical. Just because we have older different texts doesn't make them the reliable ones. The vast majority of people were using the manuscripts translated into the KJV for centuries.

I do believe you can be from the NIV, there's enough Bible in there to present the gospel. But if you want to become a true bible student you need to switch to the KJV 1611...it's the most reputable and the most used in the history of english speakers. It's the truth and that's why the devil is attacking it so hard and has created these new perversions.

I don't speak greek or hebrew and I'm not going to pretend I know more than the 48 hebrew and Greek scholars who translated the KJV.

Tyler Anderson Coultier , Facebook 10 Comments [3/20/2018 9:16:21 AM]
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Quote# 137309

World-renowned physicist Stephen Hawking died today at age 76. He once said, "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark." I wish I could have asked Mr. Hawking who he thought designed the human brain. The designers at HP, Apple, Dell, or Lenovo have developed amazing computers, but none come even close to the amazing capabilities of the human mind. Who do you think designed the human brain? The Master Designer—God Himself. I wish Stephen Hawking could have seen the simple truth that God is the Creator of the universe he loved to study and everything in it.
The Bible says, "You alone are the Lord. You have made the heavens, The heaven of heavens with all their host, The earth and all that is on it, The seas and all that is in them. You give life to all of them And the heavenly host bows down before You” (Nehemiah 9:6).

Heaven 'is a fairy story': This is what Stephen Hawking says happens when people die
"I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail," he told the Guardian. "There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers;…

Franklin Graham, Facebook 9 Comments [3/20/2018 9:11:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 137342

"Managed Decline"

Lady Checkmate:
Excellent clip, Mick!! Thought-provoking and spot-on. I can only understand the foolishness (of the alt-left) through the lens of the gospel and end-time prophecy.

Mick Williams:
During the Ubama years, one of the liberal magazines ran a pair of articles. It was either Times or Newsweek. This may not be verbatim, but the titles were 'There's nothing to fear from Sharia law', and 'The benefits of managed decline'.

Lady Checkmate:
Complete and utter lies, promoted by the far-left to lull the masses into a false sense of security AND (sadly) those who do not know Truth fell for it.

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 13 Comments [3/20/2018 9:16:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137364

David Loved Jonathon in a totally different way to woman ,thats what he is meaning .
It has Absolutely nothing to do with sex.
its so obvious how the homosexual community has taken this out of context to suit their argument.
Good luck telling God thats what David meant on the day of Judgement

surferdude3522, Youtube 4 Comments [3/20/2018 4:27:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 137354

This "diversity" sounds positive, but it's the expression of a profoundly totalitarian ideology that defames every critic from the welcome and tolerance culture demanded from the higher-ups as racists, xenophobes and "nazi". This is very similar to the state propaganda of the GDR, which labeled critics of the socialist system as "fascists" and "imperialist capitalists". The same can be said about the Goebbelish people dressing in National-Socialism, where democratic pattriots such as the white rose were branded as "People traitors". National and international socialists are very similar in their fight against people with different viewpoints.

Original German:
Dieses „Bunt“ klingt zunächst positiv, ist aber der Ausdruck einer zutiefst totalitären Ideologie, die jeden Kritiker der von oben verordneten absoluten Willkommens- und Toleranzkultur als üblen Rassisten, Ausländerfeind und „Nazi“ diffamiert. Dies ähnelt frappierend der diffamierenden Staats-Propaganda in der DDR, als Kritiker des sozialistischen Systems als „Faschisten“ und „imperialistische Kapitalisten“ abgestempelt wurden. Ebenso der Goebbelschen Volksdressur im National-Sozialismus, als demokatische Patrioten wie die Weiße Rose als „Volksverräter“ gebrandmarkt wurden. Nationale und internationale Sozialisten sind sich in der Bekämpfung Andersdenkender absolut ähnlich.

MICHAEL STÜRZENBERGER, PI News 2 Comments [3/20/2018 9:17:25 AM]
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Quote# 137064

I feel I was a responsible bully - never went too far, only targeted those whose behavior really needed changing. I used to give this kid shit for dressing like he was from the 80s and then one day he comes in dressed like a regular person. Another guy never spoke to anyone - after getting jumped a few times he got the idea that you need people who have your back in this life. Basically character-forming stuff.

All these anti-bullying programs have wussified schools to the point that there's no social pressure to confirm to any sort of normal behavior, and so we get things like bronies and trannies.

Macroaggression, reddit 20 Comments [3/10/2018 1:04:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 137329

They as well as Taiwan and Korea have overtaken in academic performance. Is it down to culture? Partially. Is it a coincidence that genetically similar countries - Taiwan, Korea and Japan have a similar culture? No. Culture is largely a result of genetics as well as genetics being driven by culture. For example some children naturally focus in lessons, some naturally don't. Same goes for parents, some naturally value academic performance, some don't. The ratio between do and don't is naturally different in a general sense between different racial groups leading to different cultures.

k543, Reddit 5 Comments [3/18/2018 11:03:28 AM]
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Quote# 137360

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Far-leftese (alt-leftese)...yes, they speak a different language"

A *CM I respect, Mick Williams, posted this glossary of far left/alt left terms and their definitions. I smile every time I read them because they're so true. Check it out:

*CM = Community Member (Mick Williams)
**This does NOT apply to traditional Democrats, imho, but I would have to confirm that with the author.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Thanks.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 9 Comments [3/20/2018 4:19:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137373

The video games have zero measurable effect. Kids in other developed countries play the exact same games. They don’t shoot up schools, or kill their sisters.

The problem is the guns. Period.

In fact there is ample research concluding that video games reduce empathy and increase meanness.

And there is a truly bizarre streak on the left that makes slippery-slope arguments for anything that can remotely be considered “speech,” including games where you get little squirts of dopamine for shooting people, that bears a unique resemblance to the bizarros on the right who make slippery-slope arguments for anything that can remotely be considered “firearms.”

When “freedom" is defined as “the right to be an asshole,” we become a society of assholes.

And “My rights over your dead body” is the ultimate in selfish cowardice.

To quote a former Google employee who has since gone dissident, “there are a thousand of us on the other side of your screen, whose job is to break down your self-regulation [ability to rationally control your own behavior].”

Anyone who wants to rationalize that, has no right to complain about The Regime.

G2geek, Daily Kos 10 Comments [3/20/2018 4:34:30 AM]
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Quote# 137366

I imagine places such as the Middle East and the more rural parts of South America will one day be known as the "last bastions of religion". In other words, it's purpose has been served, and more and more people are waking up to reality.

It’s Porpoise has hardly been served. Belive me, People cannot survive a Meaningless life like what Atheism Offers. Because in an Atheist Society, Your tiny, miniscule, Worthless. No one would care if you were to Kill yourself. Such a Sad Existence has no place in Life.

The Ozark Frontier, nationstates 14 Comments [3/20/2018 4:28:36 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 137365

Based on the drama between Sonia Sae VS that liar: Alice. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOqKUF…)

Pupaveg, Deviantart 9 Comments [3/20/2018 4:28:12 AM]
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Quote# 137276

response to "Wouldn't a world of ethnostates have more international wars?"

1) We have a lot of wars right now.
2) Mass immigration is conquest without bloodshed. I'd prefer it with blood shed tbqhwyf.
3) At least people would be fighting for their nation and not for special interest groups.

Satansyngel, r/DebateAltRight 4 Comments [3/20/2018 7:30:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137281


Lol this Made Me Lol So Hard tbh

(Redpill Robert)
LOL pretty much. Even Tyrones (or Leroy's rather) in the 1850's had it much better than wagecucks today. Their food and living quarters were provided for and most of them were fucking massa's wife and other white wimminz on the downlow.

fun fact:

wage cucks made slaves overpriced and inefficient.

see, you have to pay for the slaves housing and medical.

also slaves dont buy comodities like expensive food, cellphones, cars etc (of course if it existed at the time) so basically the slaves were producing shit for no one to buy,capitalism is so fucked up that only ended slavery because it was not viable anymore

Something is wrong when people working full-time can't afford their own house or family.

At least in N. Korea if you work, then you get your own house and family. Ethnostate, no feminist laws, strong community bonds, very low crime. Even with trade emargos and being a self-sufficient country, they're very advanced, much moreso than most capitalist third-world countries. Why do we hear propaganda about how NK is a shithole but not African countries? The west doesn't want you to ever view (national) socialism in a positive light. Cold war propaganda is still very present up to this day, and it's very much alive in the mind's of US citizens, even young ones.

I think it can seem seducing from an incel perspective, but even normies need more than that. I would move to North Korea if i could, no kidding. The only foreigner who works for the North Korean communist party is a Spaniard: Alejandro Cao de Benos ... I have read everything he has written, and I have seen all the interviews on YouTube, and according to him it is not possible for foreigners to live There, he was an exception. He talks about how different women are there: they do not value material goods, physical beauty ... but honor and hard work. I know it's just propaganda, but ... anything for a woman, some validation and a sense of belonging.

Yeah I don't like the lack of freedom in general, that's the bad part about NK, but there is much to be admired about their economic/social system. The lack of freedom is commonly exaggerated though.

Yeah they're an ethnostate, you have to be born racially Korean, or you will never be accepted as one of them. Not that I see anything wrong with this.

This woman defected to South Korea and then came back to the North. People will say this is propaganda, but I think this is how she genuinely feels. Imagine never experiencing a capitalist society before, and then finding out that everything is about money.

"In a place like South Korea where money is all that matters [..] only find jobs that involved so much mental and physical pain. Everyday living in the South Korean society was like hell"

South Korea has second highest suicide rate in the world. Is it that hard to believe this is how she really feels? She never experienced a capitalist society before.

it's legit OGRE for Japan and S.Korea

livign their as an incel male has to be the most depressing ever

it's legit the land of depressed anime and starcraft 2 addicts

Yeah, i know. Most people from N.K. end up depressed and suicidal after some months in our decadent western culture, as it exists in S.K., where capitalism and western culture are fully embraced by their government. The opinions of the north koreans help to see our culture from outside: a culture in wich human relationships doesnt matter, money, power and looks are everything, there is a massive inequality and a minority of the population are complete outcasts...
Anyway, i would happily renounce to my free will, speech and thought, and all my rights, if i was guaranteed a caring, young wife. People like me vote extremists in their countries (lol) and there are more and more in my country. I hope something changes.

various commenters, incels.me 5 Comments [3/20/2018 7:35:56 AM]
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Quote# 137283

I am not concerned by such quibbles, least of all in the favor of a creature like Saccone or Moore and giving them the benefit of a recount. Neither Saccone nor Moore in my view deserve the potential benefit of a recount.

I won't lie, if the beneficiary of a recount would be a Democratic nominee, I would be all for it.

All these legalese files and such you've recounted hold no importance to me. What matters is my ideological friend Conor Lamb won.


I am not edgier than thou with this. I have shared my exact views on the subject.

niam2023, FSTDT Forums 3 Comments [3/20/2018 7:37:21 AM]
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Quote# 137295

[LifeFuel] Man beats a woman to death in public and no one tries to stop him [NSFW]

Men would kill women if it wasn't for sex.


wtf that was so random too, they were just like talking and then he fucking beats her to death.

insane normies are very strange to me, its like a switch flips in their heads.

Beating up people is low IQ.

beating up women is high IQ as fuck

seems like a bad idea in china, they already have a population imbalance of males.


Knew it'd be in China before I entered the thread. Reminds me of that video where some Chinese guy just starts kerbstomping a 4 year old for no reason.

No, that's just China. Liveleak is full of Chinese videos where they just don't give a fuck when someone was beaten, ran over or just died in some random way.

Lmao fucking sociopaths


Dis some research on this. The reason people don't want to help is to avoid being scammed, if you help someone in china they can easily blame you for hurting them and you will be forced to pay alot compensation

Killing people is wrong but she probably left him for white Chad or Chang

This. She most likely announced she was seeing Chang or something, otherwise I don't see a reason for him to flip out.

It's basically against the law to intervine in those situations. In China, you should let people lay down and die. Trying to be a good samaritan can cause you a penalty or even time in prison.

Asians are high T.

(hehe xd)
thats just overpopulated distressed chinks, avg chink is soyboy level T in the west

various commenters, incels.me 2 Comments [3/20/2018 9:05:27 AM]
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Quote# 137296

Any other chad experiments i can do?

I've done pedo, misogynist, hiv, domestic violence, racist chad.
Are there any other ideas I can do that I can do to push it further so they want chad?

catfishman23, incels.me 2 Comments [3/20/2018 9:05:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137298

What's the best religion for incels?

I voted Judaism because we all get shekels this way and we could run money game to start betabuxxing.

I used to be part of a very strict christian denomination, the females were still whores. Muslim foids are becoming whores now too. Religion is pointless for an incel.

Atheism obviously.

Believing in something = cope because well.. you're coping buddy boyo

Islam. Most muslims are hooked up by their uncles and stuff. Its practically illegal to not get your dick sucked.

There is no "best" religion. Only one true faith: Orthodox Christianity. Embrace it before it's too late.

(Mr Joyboy)
Zen Buddhism--from the provided options, however, Christianity is the way to go. It's anti degenerate and you dont have to associate yourself with kikes or sand niggers.


It's the only religion that sees sex as disgusting.

various incels, incels.me 2 Comments [3/20/2018 9:07:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137338

Actually, this is not correct. These two "consenting adults" engaging in sodomy are harming themselves. And the harm is both physical and spiritual. The physical harm is evident in another thread on UF that Abu Mubarak maintained, I would have to search for it.

The spiritual harm is more than just "religious", it alters the self, one desires filth and impurity and resents and despises purity, modesty, virtue. This is why homosexuals have one of the highest suicide rates, because they are conscious of their own degradation and defilement, their own desire for impurity, and despise themselves for it.

Abu Kamel, Ummah 13 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 38471

The 1950's were the best times in American History !.The 1960's is the time America was on its path to HELL. The economy Was rolling in the 50's people lived better back then.The inner Cities were nice and clean. everybody had family's. There were no Fags in this country. It was great :)Evolution leads to countries like Nazi Germany and USSR

JamesJessica7771, Youtube comment 34 Comments [4/30/2008 11:35:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Enkidu

Quote# 38468

And without faith you have nothing. http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/len...

Any time something is partially false then it can’t be accepted as true. While evolution has compelling facts not all of it has been proven. Until all of it can be proven then it has to be accepted as theory. Even a liberal should be able to understand that.

There are even theories of divine intervention taking place DURING evolution. That would give another explanation, but of course you can’t accept that either. You can accept nothing but your way. You offer no reason for not allowing creationism to be taught along with other theories other than "it doesn't belong"? That's a weak argument.

You remind me of a jealous husband who is so insecure of himself that he goes berserk when his wife looks at another guy. If you so sure of yourself you shouldn’t mind other’s points of view and not try to stop others from seeing it.

Diogenes, Topix 11 Comments [4/30/2008 5:14:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Fek'lhr

Quote# 38475

This year for Christmas my family and friends who aren't saved are getting a great new Bible, The Passion of Christ DVD, The End Times DVD, a book on end times and a study guide for your bible on basic Christian beliefs. They can never stand before God and tell them no one tried to reach them. I won't stand in judgement of my own family and friends for not trying to share the good news.

lilbitsyspider, Rapture Ready 22 Comments [4/30/2008 1:01:48 PM]
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