Quote# 44247

In raising the dead, Jesus proved that evolution is not responsible for all of life on earth. This refutes Darwinian theory. I don't know how Catholics can give such unqualified support for evolution, myself.

reggieM, Catholic Answers Forums 53 Comments [8/4/2008 11:15:08 PM]
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Submitted By: galle

Quote# 44236

Americans have become soft and unfortunately so has the Christian church in America. We have so show some steel on our abs. We need to be bold in our witness, even if it means someone may be offended. If God is for us, who can be against us? Time is running short and many, many souls remain lost. We need to get cracking. We are fighting atheism, mormonism, Islam, Wicca, and a whole host of cults and false religions which make up the primary "ism" known as Satanism.

JY11, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [8/5/2008 12:36:51 AM]
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Submitted By: KatAutumn

Quote# 44266

"The Earth is, more or less, a disc," he states. "Obviously it isn't perfectly flat thanks to geological phenomena like hills and valleys. It is around 24,900 miles in diameter."

[...]

And what about the fact that no one has ever fallen off the edge of our supposedly disc-shaped world?

Mr McIntyre laughs. "This is perhaps one of the most commonly asked questions," he says. "A cursory examination of a flat earth map fairly well explains the reason - the North Pole is central, and Antarctica comprises the entire circumference of the Earth. Circumnavigation is a case of travelling in a very broad circle across the surface of the Earth."

James McIntyre, BBC News 44 Comments [8/5/2008 10:35:01 AM]
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Submitted By: ez-c

Quote# 44270

We feel that Evolution is wrong because it disses peoples' religions.

April Adamson and Fawn Finnerty, TalkOrigins 48 Comments [8/5/2008 3:41:52 PM]
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Submitted By: Tom S. Fox

Quote# 44306

Good point, why aren't there ducks with crocodile heads? That disproves evolution.

macarion, Youtube 54 Comments [8/5/2008 6:13:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Shadoboy

Quote# 44331

The Garden of Eden was located in the realm that God and the angels dwell in, which wasn't in the physical realm on Earth. There was a stargate that was the entrance and exit between the two realms. The angel that guarded this entrance and exit didn't really have a flamming sword but one like the light saber in Star Wars, which resembled a flamming sword to keep Adam and Eve from re-entering the stargate to return to the realm of God. I would imagine it would also prevent water from entering it if God wanted to keep it out.

the chosen one, Yahoo answers 47 Comments [8/5/2008 6:34:07 PM]
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Quote# 44323

These are trying times and very revealing. Now we're seeing what people are really made of what they hold dear to their hearts. Is it the word of God or the word of Man? I can tell you that I have lost all of my non-Christian friends b/c I will not compromise the word of God. I love them, and always will, but because they consider God to be an imposition I have chosen in some cases to remove myself from the friendship so as not to impose God on them. This has happened only after I've been open about my faith, shared the gospel, and they have made it clear they are not interested and asked me to respect that and so I have. With all that having been said, this life is the vapor, and as blessed and happy as I am at this time in my life, I still look forward to and long for the future when what's really real begins, and I live my life now in light of that, no matter what those who choose to ignore God say.

WordyTrees, RaptureReady 25 Comments [8/6/2008 4:41:20 AM]
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Quote# 139428

The Nazis and Many Today Follow Charles Darwin's Philosophy

For those who do cross that line and kill human life, I ask you, at what point do you draw the line? The Nazis killed those who were maimed, mentally-retarded, weak, or whom they just didn't like, thinking that it was acceptable within the morally bankrupt teachings of Charles Darwin's THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES. Put another way, Darwin's philosophies could be explained by the carnal phrase, “Only the strong survive.” Scientists who destroy human life in a lab, and mothers who abort their children, and judges who legalize abortion, and those who killed Terri Schiavo in 2005, are thinking the same way that the Nazis did. Whereas Jesus Christ stressed the importance of even the least INDIVIDUAL (Matthew 25:40,45); the majority of society today only concern themselves with the stronger GROUP (The Origin Of Species).

There is a famine of Biblical Christianity in the world today. Few people genuinely care about the individual anymore. The Supreme Court ruled in 1972, in Roe vs. Wade, that an unborn fetus is not an individual, not a human being. The victims of alcohol-caused automobile deaths are too often only considered a “statistic,” instead of an individual. All the victims of booze are PEOPLE, individuals. Most public school teachers don't care if a few students fail, just so long as most of their other students get good grades to make the teacher look good. They don't care if a few students fall through the cracks here and there an fail. This is how the heathen world thinks, and it is all directly based upon Charles' Darwin's The Origin Of Species

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 18 Comments [8/2/2018 10:54:02 AM]
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Quote# 44294

You don't need an "academic citation" to recognize the logical meaning behind something, unless you are totally illogical.

First, I am convinced that the universe exists.

Second, either the universe has always been in existence, or it had a beginning.

If the universe has always been in existence, then (according to known and proven laws of science), the universe would have died out by now.

The fact that the universe is still here only demonstrates that the universe isn't old enough to have died out.

If the universe isn't old enough to die out by now, that implies that the universe has NOT always been here.

The fact that the universe IS here, and has NOT always been in existence implies that there was a time in which the universe did NOT exist.

If there was a time in which the universe did not exist, then the universe would continue to not exist.

If the universe DOES exist, which it does, then either nothing had to create everything, or something (or SomeOne) who transcends this universe, exists outside the framework of our MEST universe (MEST = Matter, Energy, Space and Time) must have existed outside of time and it was this Someone who created the universe.

Therefore, either the universe does not exist, or nothingness created everything, or God created everything. Since the atheist doesn't believe in God, then the only other option is that nothing created something.

LOGIC!

no1home2day, yahoo answers 55 Comments [8/5/2008 6:41:06 PM]
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Submitted By: senorchipotle

Quote# 44359

I don't like tv, but I do like to have the news programs available. Have any of you noticed that even Fox News (what I would call the most conservative news network) goes out of their way to show some non-newsworthy event, so they can slip in nudity? I'm so tired of seeing naked bodies on the news. If some average Joe (or should I say "Joanne") in some average town anywhere shows off her b***s, Fox News is going to somehow have a camera stuck in front of her. This isn't news. I'm thinking a few of the hosts are d.o.m. I've taken to calling the network "Fox Nudes Network". That's disgusting.

Homesick9748, Rapture Ready 49 Comments [8/5/2008 7:07:01 PM]
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Quote# 44296

It is so sad that Satan has injected the thoughts into people's minds that they cannot have a personal relationship with God and that somehow the people that serve God are "brainwashed" into doing so. When you feel love and have a relationship with someone, do you consider yourself brainwashed? Probably not, so it is with people that have allowed Christ to live inside them. When Christ lives inside you you have a love and a relationship with him. That relationship is not determined by a minister or a church, its within. I love Jesus, he talks to me and we have a thing going on.

Ann M., Yahoo Q&A 41 Comments [8/5/2008 11:25:56 PM]
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Quote# 44290

JMHO I have always had this thought in the back of my mind that when a third of the angels fell, Mars is were they landed. To me if they anounce that aliens exist on Mars it will decieve much of the world but to me its a demonic dwelling place.

Renee, Of course... Rapture Ready 40 Comments [8/5/2008 8:51:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Wilhelm

Quote# 139421

CMV: Children Should Be Allowed To Consent To Sex.



I think that children are capable of consenting to sexual contact with adults, and it's actually incredibly harmful to take that right away from them, and a violation of human rights. The normal arguments you hear against it are that the adult is always going to have more power in the relationship so it's inherently abusive, the child isn't ready for sex, developed enough, etc., and that there's too much risk for harm and anyone who isn't traumatized is an exception.

The idea that power dynamics makes a relationship inherently abusive is just outright wrong. Power dynamics only matter if the party with the power exercises it, and laws are an equalizer because they make there be reasons not to exploit power dynamics if empathy and compassion wasn't enough of a reason already. We only extend this idea of power dynamics to sexual situations with children, in all other areas it's actually expected and socially acceptable to exercise power against children (using hierarchy to get them to do what you want, physical punishment as deterrence, lack of consideration for their will, etc.).

Any sort of argument about development and puberty ignores the reason people have sex, people don't have sex just because hormones compelled them to do it, they have it because it's a pleasant and meaningful experience to achieve sexual release and increasingly so if someone you want to be involved is involved to. The idea that children aren't sexual creatures is to say they can't receive pleasure and have positive sexual experiences.

This is probably going to be the meatiest counter-argument that I have. I'll say it bluntly, no scientific evidence that uses unbiased samples (samples that represent the population as a whole) comes to the conclusion that willing sexual participation, or EVEN unwilling, is incredibly traumatic by itself. A study into the most impactful combinations of abuse on a child's happiness, finds that sexual abuse (defined as unwilling) isn't even in the top ten combinations of the most harmful abuse (Ney, Fung, & Wickett, 1994). Countless other studies find that early sexual experiences with adults are incredibly unlikely to cause lasting harm (Rind & Tromovitch, 1997; Rind et Al, 1998; Clancy, 2009) and other studies show that children who are willing participants in sex are statistically identical to the control group when it comes to issues of mental health (Arreola et Al, 2008; Arreola et Al, 2009). There's research that shows that minors who have first time experiences with adults have nearly indistinguishable experiences as minors with peers and adults with adults (Rind & Welter, 2014; Rind & Welter, 2016; Rind, 2017) and a study done of Finnish children that found that children are far more likely to report forced sexual contact than willing because they don't consider the willing sexual contact abuse (Lahtinen, 2018).

I personally see no reason to disallow child from having sexual freedom given all the research (there's more even) and find it immoral to deny them sexual freedom. I hope that having a conversation on a sub about reasonable discussions will bring me some actual solid and impactful evidence/arguments against rather than the usual moralistic squabble and argument avoidance of other places. I want an actual discussion about this and reasons why, in the presence of immense evidence that I believe is contrary, that children shouldn't be allowed to consent to sex, reasons the research is flawed, skewed, biased, or in anyway "junk science", or research that uses non-biased samples (i.e. not samples with a disproportionate amount of clinical patients) and come to the conclusion that sexual contact the child is willingly involved in is going to cause them some kind of lasting harm or problems. Thank you.

JustBe1ngHonest, Reddit 9 Comments [8/2/2018 7:53:31 AM]
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Quote# 44277

[about Kent Hovind]

and the only reason because he doesn't like to pay taxes is because the taxes support evolution. (I recommed everybody watching his video "what is in the text books") The main problem is that evolution is being printed in the science books when it is not science at all! IT IS A RELIGION!!!

thend3162, Youtube comment 40 Comments [8/5/2008 10:24:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Enkidu

Quote# 44293

Actually, I retired from our professional accounting practice a couple years ago, 'cause I came to understand that my husband is to be the breadwinner and it was sending a poor Christian message for me to continue to be a partner in the practice, when I have other work to do in the Kingdom.

christdependent, CARM 37 Comments [8/5/2008 10:30:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Jo

Quote# 44255

The order and beauty, laws and intricacies observable in creation point us to the conclusion that an intelligence has designed it. Order does not arise out of chaos. One strand of DNA is a miracle in itself, cannot be created by accident. "The fool has said in his heart there is no God."

Our choices are two: either there is eternal matter that with no outside influence created life on its own, or there is an Eternal Creator, beyond our minds and logic, beyond our laws of time and physics, who has created the order and beauty we observe. The first choice is unacceptable to human dignity; the second, answers to our innate sense of responsibility for our behavior or misbehavior. Indeed this is the root of the desire for there to be "no God": we don't want to face the Judge. But, good news, the Judge has sent His Son to pay our price just as it was predicted 700 years before it happened by Isaiah.
--Need proof of God? - Study the history of the Jewish people.

truthseeker, yahoo answers 24 Comments [8/5/2008 11:11:19 PM]
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Submitted By: senorchipotle

Quote# 44314

There is a difference between being a "believer" and being a Christian. Every sane human being is a "believer" in God’s existence. Some people pretend He doesn’t exist (atheists) but they know He does. I know what the atheist knows because God’s Word tells me that He has given light to every man. He cannot plead ignorance.

Ray Comfort, Comfort Food - Ray Comfort's Blog 46 Comments [8/5/2008 11:47:07 PM]
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Quote# 44321

I desire to meet a single, saved heaven bound, marriage minded man. A man who TOTALLY loves God with all of his heart and fellowships with Him. Just knowing about Him is insufficient. A man, whom by character, is gentle, loyal, loving, caring, compassionate, patient, understanding, kind, fun, joyful, humble, content, respectful, trusting, confident (not prideful), spiritually strong and mentally balanced. Who's naturally healthy and believes in healing. A provider, protector, and willing to give his life for me. Will love me as he loves himself and as Christ loves the Church and gave Himself for it. Will receive all of my love and put me first after Christ. One who's financially stable, has good credit and pays his bills on time. Pays tithes and give offerings with great enthusiasm. Will always speak well to me and of me, will honor me, and bathe me with the washing of the water of the Word. Attends and serves in church regularly. Willing to equally submit, coupled with godly compromise in a relationship. Will forgive and forget my mistakes. Will intercede for me. Gentle and very passionate (in marriage only!). This man is my husband. He's looking and, praying for me. He is blessed of the Lord and will obtain favor when he finds me.

Born2worshipHim, RaptureReady 73 Comments [8/6/2008 12:30:05 AM]
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Quote# 44342

The more gays that become married, the harder it's going to be, particularly in a politically correct world like ours, for a brainwashed public to ever consider TAKING AWAY someone's rights...

...The ultimate goal of the homosexual agenda? To create so many court cases to carry before the United States Supreme Court that it will foster an environment capable of leading to what we just saw take place in California take place on a national level, the end result being black-robed activist judges overruling the will of the American people and, subsequently, making same-sex marriage the law of the land by judicial order!

Michael G. Mickey, RaptureAlert 44 Comments [8/6/2008 12:43:27 AM]
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Submitted By: fritistat

Quote# 44275

I just think a woman should not be in a ministers position. If we look at the lines of authority it seems clear to me. God Jesus Man Woman.

christschild, RR 42 Comments [8/6/2008 12:43:52 AM]
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Quote# 44370

[There's a ton more of his stuff on the video, which is anti-gay... check it out]

Actually, the majority of male homosexuals will seroconvert by the age of 55, nice try you Christian phobic, heterobashing, hate mongering, intolerant, narrow minded, hate filled, mean spirited, wrong headed, bigoted, heterophobic homofascist.

HeteroDefenseLeague, Youtube 37 Comments [8/6/2008 3:10:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Zachski

Quote# 139411

It becomes a concern when some mentally deranged, filthy disease-ridden queer starts making demands ... whether they want it to be a concern or not. It’s never a case of “Organization X” jumping up and saying “what we really need is to start recruiting lunatic perverts!!!”. It’s always a case of lunatic perverts demanding to be admitted to “Organization X” against the better judgment of its members.

NorthMountain, Free Republic 5 Comments [8/1/2018 2:42:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139399

1. Adults Raised by Gay Couples Speak Out Against Gay ‘Marriage’ in Federal Court
Dear Justice Kennedy: An Open Letter from the Child of a Loving Gay Parent
New York Times Ignores Children of Gay Parents Who Want a Mom and Dad
(especially before you go calling people uneducated, bigoted, or hateful.... I have no hate, I am well educated, and I won't even talk about the way the word bigoted is thrown around)

2. Greetings Kim, Just because it occurs in the animal kingdom does not make it natural does it? and we are not animals are we?
even if there is unnatural attraction in the animal kingdom, animals do not find a way to act on those unnatural attractions do they? other than dry humping the wrong sex
The aberration remains an aberration.

3. I'm not 'putting anyone down'.... I am trying to lift them up.... up to where they belong.... with their Creator. Ignoring His will and His design is not going to get them there.... that is Truth with Love. <3

CL, Patheos 9 Comments [8/1/2018 3:25:50 PM]
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Quote# 44328

[Why would God make wings for birds that never fly?]

Evolution involves the changing of species, even at genetic level. People becoming fat because of diet and lack of excercise doesn't mean there is an evolution in human!

Why did God make wing-animal that doesn't fly? If they did, would you have food? That is God's purpose (Of course spiritually speaking, since there is no reference to this point, but since you raised it up and want to know why)

TTAGGG, Yahoo answers 33 Comments [8/6/2008 4:40:47 AM]
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Quote# 44339

A person has the right to remain ignorant regarding science and believe in any kind of religion they want, but keep it out of the public schools.
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Solution: Begin the process of privatizing K-12 education!

The **problem** is that we have compulsory, police enforced, government indoctrination camps! Get rid of them and **thousands** of conflicts that can have no compromise will evaporate like dew on grass on a hot summer’s day!

There is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY for government to teach about the origins of man in a religiously neutral manner free of religious, cultural, and political consequences.

Those that claim that it is possible to have a religiously neutral education are hopelessly stupid or deceitful.

Government schools are a freedom of conscience and First Amendment abomination!

wintertime, freerepublic.com 30 Comments [8/6/2008 4:42:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Fek'lhr