[A]ll Jews need to hear this message, that their children must be told never to date a single non-Jew. Should they also be told they will be disinherited if they marry a non-Jew? Or that we should sit shiva for them and break off contact? I don't know about that. For my own children, I'm thinking of threatening disinheriting but not complete cut-off of contact.
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Knew a Jewish kid in the Army whose dad cut him off because he was DATING outside the faith. The last I heard (about twenty years later), they still weren't speaking, and he and his JEWISH wife had three kids.
Watch this shit, it can lead to a permanant break-up of the family.
So here's the list of my girlfriends ethnicities and religious subscriptions;
1st; African-American, atheist
2nd; Iranian/Palestinian, Muslim ((Moderate. Very, VERY moderate))
3rd; African-American, non-practicing Southern Baptist
4th; Mexican, Roman Catholic
5th; Irish/Russian, atheist.
I have never dated a Jewish person. Not once. My parents never cared, nor did my more observant grandparents. That's because all they ever cared about was whether or not my brother and I were happy and healthy. That's because My brother is married to a Cuban Catholic, they have two sons who are being raised in both traditions.
If we followed your way of thinking, Yishai, our people would have gone extinct decades ago. Get out of the dark ages and join the 21st century, mmk?
The Jewish heritage would have died out a long time ago if they didn't take in members from the outside every now and then. That's why Jews can't be considered a race and barely an ethnic group and are really a few well held together cultural tradition, because they cover such a wide variety of human features. A Jew from New York won't look anything like a Jew from Ethiopia.
So, in that context, you should be in favor of Jews having children with non-Jews. Your ancestors have been doing things that way for thousands of years, why stop now?
must be told never to date a single non-Jew
So they should date the married ones?
That's right, and we know from the photos that the ones from Jerusalem used to look like Brad Pitt and Tab Hunter.
Never thought of welcoming the non-Jewish partner and trying to encourage them to feel at home with Jews? Also, go read the Book of Ruth. And not sitting shivah but disinheriting them? Does that make you only half a shmegegge?
@ Stonespiral
Ethnic groups can be made out of just about anything and can spring up very quickly. We have one in Kosovo, the Egyptians (who are not people from Egypt), that didn't exist fifty years ago.
Maybe you should just leave your children alone and allow them to live their life the way they wish it, especially when it comes to love. Your children do not owe you or Jewish culture anything. They are individual people, and if they want to resist your religiously/racially motivated groupthink, all the better for them.
I was once very rudely lectured by an arrogant orthodox Jewish woman with whom I worked for dating a Jewish guy she didn't even know. I was a menace who, like so many other shiksa tramps, was "watering down the race". Kinda sound like a certain person we should "never forget", doesn't it?
I was once very rudely lectured by an arrogant orthodox Jewish woman with whom I worked for dating a Jewish guy she didn't even know. I was a menace who, like so many other shiksa tramps was "watering down the race". Kinda sound like a certain person we should "never forget", doesn't it?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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