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Quote# 106836

One of the men convicted for raping and killing a woman in a shocking and brutal 2012 gang attack on a New Delhi bus said in a TV documentary that if their victim had not fought back she would not have been killed.

Instead, the 23-year-old woman should have remained silent, said Mukesh Singh, who was driving the bus when the woman was attacked.

“Then they would have dropped her off after ‘doing her,’” he said in a documentary being released next week. The filmmakers released transcripts of the interview, which was recorded in 2013, today.

Singh and three other attackers were convicted in a fast-track court in 2013. The appeals against their death sentences are pending in the Supreme Court.

“A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy,” he said, according to the transcripts. “A decent girl won’t roam around at 9 o’clock at night .... Housework and housekeeping is for girls, not roaming in discos and bars at night doing wrong things, wearing wrong clothes.”


In the interview, Singh suggested that the attack was to teach the woman and her male friend a lesson that they should not have been out late at night.

He also reiterated that rape victims should not fight back: “She should just be silent and allow the rape.”

He also said that the death penalty would make things even more dangerous for women: “Now when they rape, they won’t leave the girl like we did. They will kill her.”

Mukesh Singh, New Straits Times 19 Comments [3/5/2015 6:24:20 PM]
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Quote# 106835

Could God have prevented the Holocaust? Yes, He could have. He could also have prevented Stalin’s massacres in the U.S.S.R., the Spanish Inquisition’s torture of dissidents, and Nero’s reign of terror. In each case, God allowed evil men to exercise a certain amount of power for a short period of time.

Ultimately, we do not know the reasons for what God allows. His ways and thoughts are infinitely higher than ours (Isaiah 55:8-9). His sovereign plan takes in the whole scope of history, past, present, and future, encompassing every possible course of action, every cause and effect, every potentiality, and every contingency. There is no way we could possibly fathom the intricacies of His design. By faith, we trust that His plan is the best plan possible for restoring fallen humanity and a cursed world to righteousness and blessing.

But we can understand this: God’s permission is not the same as His approval. God permitted Adam to eat of the forbidden tree, but He did not approve of the action. In the same way, God’s allowing the Holocaust in no way suggests His approval of it. God is grieved by the sinfulness of man and the hardness of his heart (Genesis 6:6; Mark 3:5).

We also know that God has done everything possible to redeem us from the sin which would destroy us. He gave His only Son, who sacrificed His life for our sin and took our penalty. All who turn to Jesus Christ in faith are saved. The sin in this world, and horrors such as the Holocaust, are a direct result of mankind’s continued rebellion against God.

Got Questions Ministries, GotQuestions.org 41 Comments [3/5/2015 4:24:48 AM]
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Quote# 106831

Aleksander Dugin, Russia’s most influential political philosopher, explains why Russia should take Pussy Riot’s provocation seriously, calling it part of an information war and an effort to subjugate Russia to external forces.

Dugin argues that the act was calculated to strike at the heart of both the secular and spiritual base of Russian society. As for Pussy Riot themselves, he calls them:

" …porno-hooligans, blasphemers, and simply obscene, immoral and worthless individuals"

His arguments are esoteric, and not entirely applicable to the West, but he gives us a pretty clear indication that Russia, and probably the rest of the world, is beginning to catch on to the threat posed by radical assaults on tradition hidden in the guise of gender liberation, or whatever Pussy Riot is claiming it stands for.

Interestingly, Dugin also claims that:

" …the West has destroyed its own tradition, its own empires, and its own religion, and is now dealing with the rest of the world."


Food for thought.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 20 Comments [3/5/2015 4:22:20 AM]
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Quote# 106828

a partial list of characteristics shared by hobbits and trans men

- small

- whiny

- boring

- silly names

- insular

- weak

- cowardly

- lots of boring movies made about them

lzbn, One of the Bad Ones 28 Comments [3/5/2015 4:19:55 AM]
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Quote# 106827

Implying trans men face any sort of trans based oppression, or are marginalized in anyway for being a trans man (not counting class, race, able bodied etc) is done directly at the expense of trans womyn

manicdepressivebaeddel, New Face of Fear 21 Comments [3/5/2015 4:19:45 AM]
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Quote# 106826

["CAFAB" refers to people who were assigned female at birth (i.e., trans men) and "CAMAB" refers to people who were assigned male at birth (i.e., trans women).]

When people talk about sexuality and gender being fluid, I tend to cringe a little.
Like, gender being fluid is a privilege only CAFAB people have. They tend to view gender as a glittery playground when they can pick different gender flowers at their own whim.
While CAMAB trans people view gender more like a field covered in thumbtacks, each step they take is prickly and painful and the more they walk through it the more they are likely to bleed out.

And with sexuality like, I think it completely ignores the role that compulsory heterosexuality has on womyn, and how discovering themselves and working though patriarchal standards has more to do with it than any sort of fluidity.

Anyway basically i’m saying that gender and sexuality aren’t really fluid and saying so is privileged and done at the expense of trans womyn and lesbians

manicdepressivebaeddel, New Face of Fear 22 Comments [3/5/2015 4:19:29 AM]
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Quote# 106825

It's all part of a big plan by the elites, they broke up our homes and ruined our women with feminism, they got our kids in the gov't schools and daycare when we prostituted our wives out to go work for another man, now we have "gay marriage" [sic], and we have incessant attacks on whiteness, Christianity, and anything good, true and beautiful.

The first step is realizing the play being run, I'm not trying to wax Alex Jonesish here but there is a play being run against us. When people hear the elites talk about a "New World Order" we think that just has to do with world gov't, it's bigger than that. They are reshaping culture to no longer have any identity, so that we are just pliable mush who watch "Dancing With the Stars" and "Ellen".

That's why the borders won't be closed, that's why BET exists, that's why the universities are just liberal mind laundries, that's why there are homos all over the tv now, that's why diversity is constantly pushed.

Douglas Quaid, American Renaissance 32 Comments [3/5/2015 4:18:27 AM]
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Quote# 106816

God says he wants young women to get married to a man, bear children, guide the house and then keep the dirty-laundry in the family. God specifically commands wives to avoid doing anything that will give people reason to judge and criticize. So many young wives go running to the neighbor's house when there's a marital argument, then the neighbor's take sides, call the police and you've got a 3-ring circus going. Ladies, you need to learn to take a walk when you're angry, and don't going crying on someone's shoulder, because they will ruin your marriage if you let them. People are destructive. It's not their marriage, so they've got nothing to lose. I'm so sick and tired of busy-bodies minding other people's business. If you want people to help ruin your marriage, there are millions of them standing in line waiting to do so. All they're waiting for is a foolish wife with a bitter heart whose sinful enough to abandon her marriage vows and quit. We are living in a world of fools. Don't throw your marriage away.

Watch Your Mouth Ladies

And another thing ladies, watch your mouth. More husbands snap because of a wife's big mouth than anything else. I remember a story in the news many years ago when I lived in Chicago. The incident happened in one of the suburbs. An elderly couple were sitting in their old car and the man's wife made some comment about their neighbor's brand new car. The man snapped, pressed the gas pedal and drove their car into the neighbor's swimming pool. When the police and fire department came, they found the couple alive sitting at the bottom of the pool underwater. A woman's mouth can really make a man upset.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 42 Comments [3/5/2015 4:11:27 AM]
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Quote# 106813

The battle against gay marriage will ultimately be lost (like the battle against abortion) unless the church and the culture return to the absolute authority beginning in Genesis. Then and only then will there be a true foundation for the correct doctrine of marriage—one man for one woman for life.

Ken Ham, Facebook 32 Comments [3/5/2015 4:09:24 AM]
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Quote# 106812

We make no apologies that we start from the position that the Bible is the history book of the universe. Yes, we have assumptions and presuppositions, such as the Bible is God’s Word and, because it was written by a perfect God, it is perfectly true and reliable. But secularists also have assumptions and presuppositions! They assume that life arose naturalistically, that supernatural explanations are not possible, that the universe is billions of years old, and that God does not exist. This is a religion! A religion of purposeless, meaningless, naturalistic atheism.

Ken Ham, Facebook 27 Comments [3/5/2015 4:07:45 AM]
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Quote# 106811

“Are you talking of the Christian God? The one that is meant to be 'all loving'?” Seth Istoga

It is common among unscrupulous debaters to create a “straw-man,” easily rip it apart, and run off declaring yourself the winner.

However, this isn’t about winning or losing a debate. It’s about where someone will spend eternity, so these issues should be addressed.

As Christians, we often have to put up with our beliefs being misrepresented through straw-man arguments, and this gentlemen has a misrepresentation in each sentence.

We are not talking about “the Christian God.” We are talking about the one and only Creator. There is only one God, and the First of the Ten Commandments begins with “You shall have no other gods before me.” Since then, man has made up millions of other gods (Hinduism has 450,000,000).

The second straw-man is to say that God is “all loving.” Nowhere in the Bible does it say such a thing. God is love and mercy, but He’s also justice and truth. To say that He is all loving is to create another god. It’s like a vicious murderer believing that the judge before whom he stands condemned, will let him go because he is “all loving.” Such a thought is ridiculous.

If a judge is a good judge, he will see to it that a murderer gets exactly what he deserves. The best of us deserve Hell in the eyes of our holy Creator, but the Scriptures tell us that God is rich in mercy and offers us Heaven.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 41 Comments [3/5/2015 4:07:41 AM]
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Quote# 106807

“Pastor, we are here to request that you marry us in your church. When can we schedule the ceremony?”

“But, first gentlemen (or, alternatively, ladies), I must say that I don’t think we have ever met and I don’t recall seeing you at our Sunday services.”

“No, we don’t belong to your church, but we are demanding that you perform our marriage, just as you do for straight couples. Do you have a problem with that?”

“Well, yes, in fact I do have a problem with marrying you, with all due respect. Our church is based upon and ruled by The Bible. God created marriage between a man and a woman. He decided the issue of marriage 6,000 years ago. We’ll not be contradicting what God has said. We….”

“Stop right there, Pastor. In case you haven’t noticed, the supreme law of the land now is that the states must issue marriage permits to same sex partners. So, therefore….”

“Let me stop you, sirs. We are not the state. We are a private church whose head is Jesus Christ. We will not bow to any order that we violate God’s word in how we operate our church.”

“Are you living in the dark ages, Pastor? Didn’t you follow the test cases over the last two years where florists and caterers who refused to do business with same sex couples were fined and even had their property seized? You didn’t speak up and organize then, did you? Your church uses the public streets and utilities. Your church gets special tax treatment by the state. Your….”

“Taxes? What do taxes have to do with….”

“You don’t pay property taxes. Your congregation gets to deduct their contributions to you. You have become creatures of the state. You can’t discriminate against us any more than you can discriminate against people based on their race.”

“But, uh, we just won’t do it. We won’t marry you in this church. That’s it. Flat. End of discussion. This meeting is over. I’ll show you the door.”

“Fine, sir, fine. We’ll leave, but you will soon learn how this country has changed. The next people who will contact you will be agents of the Department of Justice. Churches which refuse to comply with the law will soon find that either the church will obey the law or the pastor will be jailed, and probably the board of elders. If you still refuse to obey the law, the church will be closed by court order. We can’t allow homophobia to exist in this community. You’ll hear from the federal government, soon. Very soon.”

Steve Quayle, SteveQuayle.com 26 Comments [3/5/2015 4:06:41 AM]
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Quote# 106805

[From an article titled "I Was There When the World Went Mad"]

I heard it with my own ears. If I believe I'm a woman, even though I'm a male in every other way, then I'm a woman and can use the women's restroom. And if I believe I'm a horse, I can use the stable. After all I'm not hurting anyone.

I heard it with my own ears.

The LGBT protesters in Charlotte, North Carolina, were chanting, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, transphobia's got to go."

They were seeking to disrupt our Christian rally where we called on the City Council to vote "no" to the so-called nondiscrimination bill, one which would actually discriminate against Christians and other people of conservative moral values and one which would make all public bathrooms and locker rooms gender neutral.

I had just finished speaking and tried to engage some of the protesters, asking them what "transphobia" was.

When I didn't fit their definition of having an irrational fear of individuals who identify as transgender, I was told that my failure to embrace their identity made me transphobic.

I asked one young man, an African-American, if he would consider me black if I really believed I was black.

He explained that skin color was outwardly determined but that it was "primitive" to claim that gender was determined by one's biological and chromosomal sex. Primitive!

No, gender was determined entirely by how you felt in your own mind, regardless of biology and anatomy.

When I pressed him on the matter of racial identity, he conceded my point. If I genuinely believed I was black, then I was black.

That prompted me to ask the City Council members when I had my turn to speak later that night (I was one of more than 115 people who signed up to address the issue) if I should be entitled to minority housing benefits if I was convinced I was really black.

This was not meant to mock but to underscore the absurdity of dismissing all external tests and claiming that reality is determined by whatever I believe it to be. How can human society even exist with such social madness?

Most frightening of all was the passion with which these protesters presented their views. To call them intensely close-minded and dogmatic would be a severe understatement.

When I asked a young lady if I could use a stable if I believed I was a horse, she said "yes" without slightest hesitation. And while she didn't have children of her own (she said she's unable to) she wanted me to know that she teaches 90 young children and would be perfectly at home with them sharing a bathroom with, say, a biological male who believed he was female.

For me even to question her was absurd in her eyes, and yet this young woman is influencing our little ones.

Micheal Brown, Charisma News 21 Comments [3/5/2015 4:06:10 AM]
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Quote# 106801

WorldNetDaily commentator and fringe radio host Andrea Shea King wants to punish elected officials who plan to skip Benjamin Netanyahu’s controversial address to the U.S. Congress tomorrow…by putting them to death.

King said on her radio program last month that such officials shouldn’t just “pay with their jobs” but should also “pay with their lives.” “I would like to think that these guys could pay with their lives, hanging from a noose in front of the U.S. Capitol Building,” she said. “What they are doing is they are putting their own interests above that of America, and to me that is criminal.”

King specifically suggested hanging members of the Congressional Black Caucus, saying “their districts are all dumb clucks because these dumb clucks wouldn’t be electing these people if they knew better.”

“How do people like this get to represent us in Congress?” she asked. “Because there are stupid people out there in those congressional districts who are so ignorant it’s dangerous…. Stupid, stupid people. Our lives are on the line and all they can think of is skin color. All of us will turn black if we end up in a cage on fire.”

Andrea Shea King, Right Wing Watch 18 Comments [3/5/2015 4:03:56 AM]
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Quote# 106800

In the second in a series of presentations that he recently made at Charis Bible College in Colorado, right-wing pseudo-historian David Barton reiterated his belief that God will never allow a cure or vaccine for AIDS to be discovered because the disease is divine punishment for homosexuality.

Citing Romans 1, which declares that "men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved," Barton said that God will never allow a cure to be found for AIDS because that would eliminate the "penalty" that is due for engaging in such behavior.

"Anything the Bible says is right, there is scientific basis for it now," Barton said. "The federal government, in the last several years, has spent tens of billions of dollars looking for a vaccine for AIDS and I don't think they will ever find a vaccine for HIV/AIDS. And I say that based on a particular Bible verse ... Notice this, homosexuals receive in their bodies the penalty due them. The Bible says if you engage in homosexuality, your body will do things that will penalize you. So if you can have a vaccine for AIDS, then you're keeping your body from penalizing you. I don't think they'll ever find a vaccine for AIDS"

David Barton, Right Wing Watch 24 Comments [3/5/2015 4:03:42 AM]
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Quote# 106797

Why Atheists Hate God?

Don't tell me you don't hate god because he doesn't exist.I know in your dark , evil heart you hate god.So be honest and tell why you hate god.

None, Yahoo! Answers 50 Comments [3/4/2015 3:53:53 AM]
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Quote# 106796


unsavoryagents, Twitter 41 Comments [3/4/2015 3:53:41 AM]
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Quote# 106787

I agree, we need a strong true Christian like Huckabee. We haven't had one since Reagen. He would have won last time if people didn't listen to who these spiritually blind pundits pushing their favorite, or blindly misleading who they push for the best chance. We need to support and vote in the primaries, not listen to political hacks, pushing compromisers. How about these true Christians who are the ones that have been exposing and fighting the lawless evil, with no compromise to join his team as they clean house. Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Cruz, Carson, Steve King who is big in fighting agenda 12, also. Louie Gohmert, James Infole,who also fights and exposes this global warming deception and hoax for world gov't, steal rights, money, enslave and control people. There are a few more dedicated Christians, also. Demo's are the God and Israel booing party of death and destruction, so they are eliminated.Not all Republicans are.Especially the middle of the road and compromisers. Matthew 7:15,24,2nd Timothy 3, all and verse 13.Chapter 3 begins with' But know this, in the last days perilous-stressful times will come. The list with verse 13."But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived."Also among the many in this descriptive and detailed list, 3: unloving,unforgiving, slanderers, proud, boasters, without self control, brutal, despisers of good. Traitors, headstrong, haughty, blasphemers, and much more. Sound like today? Romans 1, and others. That's why this nation needs true Christians as leaders, at the top and every level. And why all Christians should vote. Not our main mission, but too oft ignored.Do it for others. We have a God given right and duty to vote.As God the Son said when He came in human flesh, sinless, paid our penalty in full. Shed His pure God blood, died in our place for our sins was buried and rose on the 3rd day. For whosoever believes, asks for His gift of forgiveness and to come into their heart, be their Lord and their Savior. Lord Jesus says you will know them by their fruit. Not just saying they are, their life and actions.What they stand for and against.Not by the photo op by a Church or with Billy Graham around election time Who gives them the great news of Lord Jesus and many use these photo's to deceive.This nation is in serious trouble and the people need to return to God,this Republic, not democracy, left and is turning farther away. Mainly for themselves and loved ones, and the only hope for this nation is the Lord. Returning to our blessed and protected Christian founding and heritage. God has and is doing great things for and through His people through Son Jesus. Many believe, I do, that He is raising up Joseph, Daniel, Elijah, Ester and David types for this time in gov't, also. We need to stand, pray and vote for these Christian men and woman. Now and on, as many from this nation have and are. Christians all over the world are praying for this nation to return to the Lord.Stand for good once again and against the evil. God gave us free will.But He is calling this nation back out of love, before it's too late. The Lord wants all to repent and believe in who He is, what He did for us. To call on Him.Invite Him into their heart, life as loving, gentle and mighty for you Lord and Savior. Free gifts that He came down in human flesh to suffer, die and rise for. The greatest love and gift, ever. Now and forever.

Bobby, WND 35 Comments [3/4/2015 3:47:19 AM]
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Quote# 106785

I don't know about about William, but there is no doubt that Obama is the 7th king of the mystery babylon lineage. The 8th is yet to come. How that happens will be a mystery to those who are immersed in the curse.

The curse is to believe in the lie of reincarnation. There are seven spirits before the throne and look at what Christ said. From bible hub.com Matthew 12:Return of an Unclean Spirit
…44"Then it says, 'I will return to my house from which I came'; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. 45"Then it goes and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation."

Now look at what the resurrected Christ did with Mary Magdalene. From bible hub.com Mark 16:Jesus Appears to Mary Magdalene
9Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons. 10She went and reported to those who had been with Him, while they were mourning and weeping.…

We are to be reborn in water and spirit through Christ. The shackles of a flesh and blood existence can only be removed by Jesus Christ. We are made anew and given a Book of Life name. Here is what happens if you do not receive a Book of Life name. From bible hub.com Revelation 13:The Beast Out of the Sea
…7It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. 8All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. 9If anyone has an ear, let him hear.…

In the coming parousia, the world is going to awaken to eternal life through Christ or eternal damnation. Those who follow the spirit of sodom and egypt are doomed.The akashic records of this cursed 666 matrix will try to be validated by the false deities on earth. The 8th process for darkness is the unholy resurrection of the false sun god, apollo or apollyon. The end product is the son of satan.

satan fell to earth as samayaza per the book of Enoch. He was cast to mount zaphon which is also known as mont aqraa. Hence you have the acropolis. The big lie will be the merging of greek mythology with egyptology to produce a visible demonic hierarchy that rules the earth for 42 months as the gates of hell prevail.

Revelation 2 tells you that satan's throne is at pergamum which is in Turkey. The flag over the country is for islam which is poised to be brought into and consumed by the biggest lie of all time which is satan. The five pointed star is for lucifer. It represents the false morning star which is Venus. Venus returns to its original place in the celestial sky exactly every 40 years. In that 40 years, the Earth aligns with Venus and the Sun 5 times and a perfect pentagram is formed. Note that satanists use the goat of mendes (the beast) in the middle of an inverted pentagram which is opposite of love which is lust. This 40 year period is used throughout the bible. In fact, all of those in the exodus who were born in egypt were not allowed to see the Promised Land. Instead, there were purged from the ranks in a 40 year wandering process.

From bible hub.com Revelation 11:8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. So, you see what prevails in spirit over Jerusalem during the 42 month reign of the antichrist. The purging process of 40 years applies to root source. Look at what God says about egypt. From bible hub.com Ezekiel 29:The Desolation of Egypt
…11"A man's foot will not pass through it, and the foot of a beast will not pass through it, and it will not be inhabited for forty years. 12"So I will make the land of Egypt a desolation in the midst of desolated lands. And her cities, in the midst of cities that are laid waste, will be desolate forty years; and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations and disperse them among the lands." 13'For thus says the Lord GOD, "At the end of forty years I will gather the Egyptians from the peoples among whom they were scattered.…

For the spirit of egypt and sodom to be drawn back to its source for total destruction by the one, true God, then it must prevail over the final evil, adulterous generation. In the final piece of the mystery babylon puzzle look for what has grown from the weeds (spiritual egypt) to be destroyed by prophecy. From Jeremiah 46:19Pack your belongings for exile, you who live in Egypt, for Memphis will be laid waste and lie in ruins without inhabitant. This applies to current day, and many will ask how. Christ said you shall know a tree by the fruit it bears. If it is of the mystery babylon tree then it bears mystery babylon fruit.

The 90th degree of egyptian masonry is the rite of memphis. It has been established that the 666 coded geographical coordinates are of babylonian design. Memphis, TN is on 90WLon. It will follow the same fate as the New Madrid faultline wakes up. If you use the Washington Monument as the center of the egyptian masonry compass then 666 statute miles lands slightly east of Cairo, Illinois (Sion backwards and "Ill" both ways). It is known as little egypt. The Ohio River converges with the Mississippi which says I am Isis and pi both ways. The river is mentioned here. From bible hub.com Revelation 12: 15And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood.

Many people ask why there are so many tornadoes and hurricanes that gravitate towards the Bible Belt of the US. First understand this. The chosen are those chosen spiritually. Without accepting Christ as a Savior, no one including the natural Jew can reach Heaven. Those who have accepted Christ as Savior are really the chosen ones which is the church, the bride.

What the final piece of the puzzle has created in clear view as the US is a place where both blessing and curse exist. Spiritual egypt (the weeds) has been allowed to grow with the spiritual wheat which is the true Israel. These two are soon to be separated. As a result of the US being in part spiritual Israel and particularly in the bible belt, the judgment comes quick and first. The spiral clouds of destruction are cast into the natural as the scales of justice and judgment are tipped.

When Israel encountered babylonian captivity during Jeremiah's time the ark of the covenant was removed by the help of an egyptian princess and first carried to Tara, Ireland then on to the US. It is now in ARK-ansas (ansa means rings of saturn).

Jesus Christ is the way, Godlike Productions 23 Comments [3/4/2015 3:47:05 AM]
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Quote# 106783

Twitter user Abu Abdullah Britani, who openly publicises ISIS activity, wrote: '#We_Are_Coming_O_Rome with slaughter'.

The message was soon followed by one that read: '#We_Are_Coming_O_Rome, we will conquer & establish the justice of #shariah. We will use your leaning tower of pizza to throw off homosexual'.

Abu Abdullah Britani, The Mirror 31 Comments [3/4/2015 3:40:30 AM]
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Quote# 106782

In 2007, and with that same nauseating arrogance that has come to define him, then presidential candidate Barack Obama duplicitously quipped, "I am absolutely convinced that culture wars are just so '90s. Their days are growing dark."

Dark, indeed. America's soon-to-be cultural-Marxist-in-chief would then spend the greater part of a decade waging war against our nation's Judeo-Christian culture and heritage at levels, and in ways, unseen in our storied history. Today, his anti-Christian crusade continues unabated. In fact, and with less than two years left to complete his baleful conspiracy, this neo-pagan extremist has begun to rapidly accelerate his unravelings.

Chief among his targets for destruction are conservative and Christian organizations and individuals who pose a threat to his envisaged "fundamental transformation" of our once-Judeo-Christian nation. The Obama vision? A godless, Euro-socialist dystopia crafted in his own secular-humanist self-image.

We're well on our way.

Still, even the president of the United States, alone, cannot destroy an entire nation Sent from my iPhone of spiritual deceptions.

To accomplish the larger "progressive" dream of unmaking America, this man, this cagey figure of whom we still know very little, finds himself flanked by powerful comrades in arms – by hundreds of equally extremist and very well-funded anti-Christian groups.

Matt Barber, Charisma News 28 Comments [3/4/2015 3:40:07 AM]
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Quote# 106781

[From a "article" about how Christians should be debating with their Atheist friends]

3) Only supernatural theism provides a rational justification of scientific work.

The wording of this point is very important. If we left out the word “rational,” then the statement would actually be false and quite easy to shoot down. You don’t need supernatural theism to be curious, or to want to explore the natural world. But you do need supernatural theism to have a rational justification of science. What does the word rational mean there? It means that scientific inquiry done on the assumption that there is no higher intelligence than evolved human intelligence is making a value judgment that it has no right to make.

Why is knowledge better than ignorance? The atheist would respond that ignorance has less survival value than truth; after all, if you believe wrong things or do not know enough about your environment, you’re less likely to survive and flourish. But this explanation only applies to a very small amount of scientific knowledge. There is little survival value in knowing, for example, the complicated workings of time–space theory, or the genus of certain insects, or the distance of Jupiter from Mars. All of these facts are pursued by scientists as being intrinsically valuable, yet they offer very little information that can help guarantee a species’ continued existence on the planet.

The real explanation is that scientists pursue these facts because there is intrinsic value in knowing what is true about the world, regardless of how much help it gives us. Human beings believe that knowing is better than ignorance because they believe that truth is better than falsity, and light is better than darkness. But where does such a conclusion come from? It does not come from scientific principles. Science itself offers no self-evident account for why it should be pursued. You cannot study science hard enough to understand why you should study science at all. To study science presupposes a valuing of truth that must be experienced outside of scientific study. It is only rational to pursue scientific knowledge that doesn’t offer immediate survival value if there is some external, transcendent value in knowing truth. Theism offers an explanation for why knowing truth is valuable. Scientific atheism does not.

4) Only supernatural theism gives us assurance that real scientific knowledge is possible.

Philosopher Alvin Plantinga is famous for articulating what he calls the “evolutionary argument against naturalism.” The argument is
Alvin Plantinga

Alvin Plantinga

complicated in detail but simple in premise. Plantinga begins by putting two facts alongside each other that nearly all atheists agree on. First, the theory of evolution is true, and humans have descended from lower life forms over time. Secondly, humans are rational beings in a higher degree and superior way to lesser evolved creatures. Plantinga then points our attention towards a tension between these two facts. If human beings are a more evolved species of primate, then our cognitive faculties (ie, the parts of our body and mind that allow us to be rational creatures) have evolved out of lesser cognitive faculties. But, Plantinga says, if God does not exist, then the only factors that affected human evolution are time and chance. Based on time and chance alone, why should we be confident that our rational minds–which are merely the sum of lesser evolved minds plus time and chance–are actually rational at all? What basis do we have to believe our own conclusions? How do we know we are actually capable of knowing truth more than a primate? If the only players in our existence are lesser creatures, time, and chance, how do we know we are even highly evolved at all?

This astute observation was echoed by Thomas Nagel in his recent book Mind and Cosmos. Nagel, an agnostic philosopher from New York University, argues that human comprehension of the universe cannot be explained merely by atheistic evolutionary processes. It makes no sense to assume that humans can really make sense of their world on a conceptual level if human consciousness arose out of the very world it responds to. Nagel agrees with Plantinga that atheistic naturalism cannot explain why human beings can be rational creatures and do rational things that should be trusted.

Scientific knowledge is only possible if things unprovable by science are actually true. If Carl Sagan is correct and the material universe is all there was, is, and ever will be, then science itself is nothing more than a shot in the dark. If, however, human beings are the products of an infinitely greater Mind, then we have justification for believing that true and false are realities and not merely the shadow puppets of our ancestors.

Samuel James, Samuel's Notebook 25 Comments [3/4/2015 3:38:33 AM]
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Quote# 106780

Maharashtra, considered one of the most progressive States in the country, has reported cases of at least one human sacrifice per month on an average in the last one year. Of the 104 cases registered in the first year after the previous Maharashtra government passed the Anti-Superstition and Black Magic Act in December 2013, activists have pointed out 15 cases of human sacrifice.

The Act, before it was passed by the Maharashtra Legislature, was termed by the then Opposition parties, the Bharatiya Janata Party and the Shiv Sena, anti-Hindu. The Opposition had stalled the Assembly proceedings for several times in protest against the Act.

However, data gathered from across the State has shown that using the Act’s provisions, activists and the police have prevented possible human sacrifices in seven cases.

“We had been saying that such incidents do happen in Maharashtra and that is why we needed the Act. Now it is time to implement the law more effectively to curb such inhuman practices,” said Krushna Chandgude of the Maharashtra Andhashraddha Nirmulan Samiti (MANS). Mukta Dabholkar, daughter of the late rationalist Narendra Dabholkar who had first proposed the law, said the fact that seven cases were prevented itself showed its importance.

Rubbishing claims that the Act was against Hindus, Ms. Dabholkar said around 20 cases had also been registered against occultists from the Muslim community. Mr. Chandgude pointed out that most of these murders were committed after tantriks claimed that the sacrifice would bring hidden treasure. “Poverty and lack of education are certainly the reasons behind these crimes. There is a need to propagate scientific temper,” he said.

Bharatiya Janata Party, Shiv Sena and numerous Maharashtrian occultists and tantriks, The Hindu 13 Comments [3/4/2015 3:38:25 AM]
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Quote# 106778

The topic of evolution, especially regarding how politicians have responded when asked if they believe in evolution or not, has been in the news lately. The very liberal Huffington Post published an article on the topic stating the following:

"The 2016 presidential campaign is already upon us and the debate is heating up over an unexpected issue—the theory of evolution. Of course, in an ideal world, evolution would never really become a campaign issue. But the anti-science wing of the Republican Party continues to voice skepticism. Apologists for this wing would dearly like to distract the media and the voting public from what is, frankly, a national if not a global embarrassment."

"In truth, the President of the United States needs to be scientifically literate."

The truth of the matter, however, is that such statements as those in this article, and the questions about belief in evolution being asked of politicians, actually portray their anti-God agenda.

Just as the pro-evolution Bill Nye “The Science Guy” has done (and continues to do), the author of the Huffington Post article attempts to equate rejection of evolution with the rejection of the whole of science and thus undermining studies in biology, genetics, diseases, and computing. Because of a commitment to the religion of naturalism, many evolutionists try to intimidate people through the use of terms like “anti-science” in their attempts to bully people into thinking that those who reject evolution are undermining technological advancement.

I have observed that in most instances when the secular media write articles about Answers in Genesis, the authors will state we are against science and will use terms like “anti-intellectual,” “anti-academic,” and so on, and claim we are undermining the whole of what they call science. And then, when using the word science, they will discuss technology and try to intimidate people into believing that organizations like Answers in Genesis will adversely affect America’s technological achievements for the future. This is the agenda of Bill Nye, as was seen in his debate with me last year, and as witnessed in his numerous interviews and lectures around the world.

That’s why during my debate with Bill Nye, I concentrated on explaining that the word science means “knowledge.” And then I explained the difference between historical science (beliefs about the past) and observational science (using our five senses, repeatable tests, and so on) that helps build our technology.

During the debate, I showed video clips of creation scientists who had developed some great technological achievements. I then asked Bill Nye a question (a question I have often asked publicly of all evolutionists—which secularists won’t and cannot answer):

"Can you name one piece of technology that could only have been developed starting with a belief in molecules-to-man evolution?"

There is no such example! In fact, the real reason Bill Nye—and reporters questioning politicians who are contemplating running for US President—are bullying and intimidating people about evolution is not because belief in molecules-to-man evolution is necessary for technological advancement. It’s due more to the secular humanistic, anti-God agenda they want implemented!

You see, if there is no God who created us—no God who is the absolute authority—then “every way of a man is right in his own eyes” (Proverbs 21:2).

When the Huffington Post author states, “In truth, the President of the United States needs to be scientifically literate,” the author really is saying, “In truth, the President of the United States needs to be committed to the religion of naturalism and reject the absolute authority of the Word of God.” Having abandoned the Bible as the authority, the President can then insist on supporting gay marriage, abortion, and whatever else such a President deems is “right in his own eyes” (which is what we see happening).

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 37 Comments [3/4/2015 3:36:13 AM]
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Quote# 106777

(Gay rights discussion)

There is a right way to fit lego pieces. One can fight for the right to join two pieces from the back or from the front and it may seem like the politically correct thing to say or fight. We can even pass laws to say we recognize that lego bricks can be joined front to front and back to back, and that everyone who says no are bigots who have a narrow view of how lego pieces should be stuck. We can even hide behind free speech, by arguing for lego pieces to be joined however they like, and saying that pro-conventional lego builders are silencing the voice of liberal lego builders and that they should shut up (denying pro-conventional lego builders the right of free speech in the process).

But the reality is that there is only one way to naturally put lego pieces together. Sure, pass your laws, silence the naysayers, tell tales of happiness, and all that... but lego pieces were never made that way.

Amerieka, Nationstates 34 Comments [3/4/2015 3:36:06 AM]
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