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Quote# 112509

Well now...this makes sense in a society where there are no longer any absolutes...where morals are subjective/relative depending on the situation and one's feelings, and where death is worshiped. Assisted suicide is legal in several states now...others are pushing for it. Abortion..legal in all 50 states, and now we know...PP has been selling aborted babies' parts for profit for years....even killing babies born alive to harvest their organs. We live in a culture of death and our children are being brainwashed to believe we are nothing more than apes, life has no real meaning outside of getting all the fun you can before it is over, and death is merely a ride into nothingness.

Very sad story. This is the fruit of paganism.

Angel Jabbins, Christian News Network 22 Comments [9/4/2015 3:38:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Tim Grogan
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Quote# 112508

Jackson created the Democratic party and surely that theory was prominent in his thinking, (take from the haves (Native Americans) and give to the have-nots). Also his low view of the value of human life (think abortion). We see where the Sermon on the Mount was not at all in his thinking. Very few calling themselves Christian follow the principles set forth in the Sermon on the Mount, indeed.

Dave_L, Christian News Network 9 Comments [9/4/2015 3:35:40 AM]
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Quote# 112507

Not a theocracy, just a Ten Commandments commentary on ethics to properly balance interpretation of Law. Today they write new Laws using wide of the mark interpretations of the Law.

Dave_L, Christian News Network 16 Comments [9/4/2015 3:35:25 AM]
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Quote# 112506

In the other case where the FFRF wants the sheriff to take down the decal "blessed are the peacemakers." the FFRF claimed that taxpayers should not have to pay for the decals and now someone has donated decals to another sheriff dept. and the FFRF says it's unconstitutional and of course they can't use the taxpayer excuse since these are donated decals, these folks will use whatever they can to try to remove God. God is Creator of all and the earth belongs to Him and you will lose for you cannot remove Him, He may let you have your way for a bit but that is to judge you later on for your evil acts against Him, He is unmovable, you are and will find this out...I love Jesus!

Josey, Christian News Network 11 Comments [9/4/2015 3:35:20 AM]
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Quote# 112505

One this is for sure, it is really fun trying to understand the universe around us. I love cosmology and though we humans will never even come close to understanding all things it is an incredible thing to try. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.

D Sims, Christian News Network 8 Comments [9/4/2015 3:26:10 AM]
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Quote# 112504

Scientists don't have a clue how the universe was created (formed). They are like children in a sandbox marveling over the color of sand and how it reacts to water. Those who trust in science, trust in incomplete and false knowledge. Only through Faith can we see and understand how the universe was created. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God, Jesus (the) Christ.

Through the Word of God the universe was created, and by the Word of God it remains. By the Word of God it will be changed, and only those who know Jesus (the) Christ will be transformed to live in the New Heavens and New Earth.

Follow Jesus, find Salvation.

FoJC_Forever, Christian News Network 12 Comments [9/4/2015 3:25:55 AM]
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Quote# 112503

How could Einstein know how God created the heavens and the earth in the beginning? The best minds in academia are still struggling to reconcile Einstein's theories with observations of the real universe, which is the point of this article. While they work on this, we can take time to consider the eyewitness account which says "In the beginning God created". It even says that light is a fundamental concept, much as you think that its quantization is more fundamental than the light itself.
(And yes, I know you mean "Einstein" figuratively ... there is so much stupid here, I feel I need to point this out.)

Martin Smit, Christian News Network 11 Comments [9/4/2015 3:25:52 AM]
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Quote# 112502

How? Praying and offering a choice to follow God and have everlasting peace ?That's hardly pushing anything. Maybe it's the constant judging? Only God is the final judge on your life. Any "Christian" that tells you otherwise is not walking in the truth. Still no pushing of anything. When one says"No, I will not follow in your teaching of fairy tales and made up Gods and I will not bow and pray" neither our government, football coaches/chaplains, or other power of authority has ever punished him/her. Before you get up in arms and start trolling with responses, let me clarify that statement. As true followers of Christ, we accept anyone regardless of their beliefs or non beliefs. If you want to believe in thor, odin and rainbow pooping fairies then by all means that's your prerogative. We WILL NOT judge you for it. Instead we will present our beliefs, share our witness testimony to what events led us to God and the saving grace God has given us. We are the first to call ourselves hypocrites before atheists used them in arguments. Why? because we are sinners saved by Grace. Our fleshly bodies will pay the price of sin and our souls will go to heaven. With that knowledge, we are comfortable in sharing it with others in hope that they too will have that same peace. We know that it won't happen for everyone and we are fine with that. That is what Christ has taught us in the Word all along.
So why the long dribble? When our country was founded, the idea of having the freedom to believe what you want without judgement or punishment is what the first amendment was written for. The majority of our founding fathers acknowledged there is a God. I'm sure however, they disagreed on how God should be worshipped, but they were all in agreement that we have that right to choose for ourselves.In other words, the first amendment was written to defend one's rights of religion.
If you truly believe that words on a wall or people bowing their heads in prayer is "pushing" you or "forcing" you to believe or whatever, then YOU have that problem. I'm offended by several images on public and government property all the time but I choose to ignore it because my life and my family's life is more important than images on a wall. Also I don't care.
I will however continue to pray for truth and understanding to come to you. God is the only way.
God Bless

Homer for God, Christian News Network 8 Comments [9/4/2015 3:25:48 AM]
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Quote# 112501

(In response to story "Sign Maker Offers ‘In God We Trust’ Patrol Car Decals to Police Officers Nationwide")

In my opinion, anybody who has a job requiring them to put their life on the line day in and day out can put whatever religious message they want on their vehicle if it helps them to do their job successfully and brings them comfort.
And only selfish and agenda driven liberal cry babies who don't give a damn about the safety and well being of these people would ever be so shameful to take issue with it.
Freedom is freedom. And that means we all have the right to BE offended by someone else's contrary beliefs, actions and speech to our own.
And then you suck it up and move along.

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 11 Comments [9/4/2015 3:24:28 AM]
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Quote# 112500

Go ACLJ! It's time to fight back against these intimidating tactics the FFRF is putting out there and the lies they use in doing so. When it comes to the fight they lose because they are wrong and they know it, but they have gotten some to bow down because of fear and the intimidation tactics they threaten with, I pray all states stop bowing down to the FFRF in these situations.

Josey, Christian News Network 4 Comments [9/4/2015 3:24:09 AM]
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Quote# 112498

My culture is American. I'm extremely happy to be living in the US. And if you are so gung-ho on your Asian side, then you should have moved back to Asia and married an Asian dude to have kids with. IMO, China is not the end all culture. Sure, we were ahead of the world for a while and invented gunpowder, but gosh who the f*ck cares about that stuff now? In addition, the mainland has horrible attitudes with many things, including how they control their news, Tibet and I am completely against them taking over Taiwan. I was heartsick when the Brits lost their lease on Hong Kong. And the Chinese place far too much importance on the men in their families. Hence the shortage of single women over there. I hate the Three Gorges Dam project and how the Chinese soldiers would shoot at the rare freshwater dolphins in the rivers. There is much of modern China that I dislike intensely and the whole country went away I wouldn't miss it at all. Ancient China is quaint, but it's all in the past.

Miu, City-Data 7 Comments [9/4/2015 3:09:11 AM]
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Quote# 112497

(on William Lane Craig's Kalam cosmological argument)

I can promise you that if Kalam had been refuted, it would not be in the citations of serious scholarly peer-reviewed journals. Could not get your link to load up, so how about debunking Kalam for me in this thread, with your own arguments?

"it's just rubbish" and "a laughingstock" and "genocide apologist"

See, these ad hominems are the kind of things we (former) Old Atheists would never have engaged in. We were actually too busy accomplishing things than to behave like 5 year olds in a school yard.

It sounds like Kalam is getting to you, if you cannot refute it for me on this thread. After all, you wrote "It isn't difficult at all to refute Kalam." Well, if it isn't difficult, go for it. :-) Besides, there is a Nobel Prize or something awaiting you when you DO refute it.

Say-so atheism really is the scourge of the planet.

WorldGoneCrazy, Live Action News 15 Comments [9/4/2015 3:08:24 AM]
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Quote# 112494

We have the names of the women, the twelve disciples and other people (parents, spouses, Jewish Sanhedrin members, people cured of disease, Simon of Cyrene etc)- maybe not their addresses (unless you count the places they are identified as coming from). Presumably if these people were made up, the gospels would have been exposed as fabrications. It seems safe to say there were eyewitnesses.

Spud, Religion and Ethics 39 Comments [9/3/2015 3:31:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane
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Quote# 112492

First of all, Asians only make up 6% of the general US population. And yes, I always do fine in any situation with people of other races. I probably get along better with non-Asians that Asian Americans. Especially with Chinese American men who still claim first allegiance to China... but that's a whole other thread topic.

And I DO understand why in Quincy, there are non-Asians that object to the creation of a new Asiatown in their town. And if Asians were trying to make an Asiatown in the North End, they would be unwelcome also. It's not about assimilation. Making a Asiatown is them refusing to integrate gracefully into the rest of society. Making an Asiatown is Asians refusing to mingle with other cultures and races.

And that's why I think that Asian Americans should avoid living in clusters with other Asian Americans. And if they need Asian groceries, then visit one of the number Asian markets in the metro Boston area. But please don't just cluster together and form an Asian American neighborhood.

Miu, City-Data 25 Comments [9/3/2015 3:30:35 AM]
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Quote# 112491

Women are only expensive because they insist on working. A woman who is willing to not work doesn't cost more than her food and clothes. It's when you have to pay for child care and private school that you are poor. It's paying others to REPLACE her that's expensive. If she watched her own children, and taught them at home, it's all doable. Yes, anybody can home school. It's a national movement and there is a lot of help and support.

A man should place an ad explaining in the ad what he wants. It is not efficient or fun to try to talk people out of their ideas, so only have coffee with women who are already on board with your ideas.

Which should be: "I am looking for a wife to stay home, not work at all, and home-school our children. I can't afford any other kind of wife. Only phone me if that describes you. Have this education___ and be in this age range ___. My height is this ___, my weight is this ___. My financial situation is______ . "

Use a phone that can't be traced by women you reject. You don't want to be stalked. Meet only in a public place, for coffee mid-morning, not dinner, and don't exchange personal information until after three dates. She must call back, not you: don't you chase anybody. And no touching, not even a handshake. After three dates, instead of the usual Three Date Rule, it's: fine, we are getting married. Just a different Three Date Rule, and no more dangerous than the other kind. Less, actually. A woman who won't marry you after three dates doesn't feel enough for you to get a fourth date with you. Go on to the next.

anonymous, Captain Capitalism 44 Comments [9/3/2015 3:30:23 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback
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Quote# 112487

If one chooses to marry one of their own gender rather than the other, isn't that gender-based discrimination? #whenyoustopandthinkaboutit

Da Weirdo, Weirdo's Stupid Wikia 48 Comments [9/3/2015 3:28:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Kayla
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Quote# 112480

Ladies especially have to be careful because there are many women in this world (including in our churches) that HATE masculinity. They are female chauvinist pigs. In Baptist churches? Yes! Let me tell you... Americas churches are filled with carnal believers and feminists. I'm simply saying, be careful who you talk to! When these women poison your mind with garbage, and cause you to hurt your husband, they still have their marriage but you just ruined yours. I've seen this happen. People talk you into hurting your husband with the police, unkind words, leaving home, filing for separation, etc... but they would never do such a thing to their own husband! And then to add insult to injury, they don't even call you back to see how your doing after they gave you a knife to stab your husband with. This is how rotten people can be... I'm talking about church people here too. The bottom line is, seek counsel from God's Word... not people. If you do go to someone, be very careful who you go to, and what you do with their advice. Remember what God says..

David J. Stewart, JESUS IS SAVIOR 23 Comments [9/3/2015 3:25:29 AM]
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Submitted By: undie not fundie
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Quote# 112479

The Antidote to Miley’s Mess

Miley Cyrus, you are treading on dangerously thin ice. You have a heart condition, tachycardia. The very shoes you tie in the morning could be untied by an undertaker tonight. You admitted to anxiety attacks that were so severe you used to avoid driving a car. Is the therapist you’re seeing resolving the emptiness inside? Is your new friend, Caitlin Jenner, offering any help or adding to the confusion?

When your father repented and turned back to God he said, “God sent His Son to this earth to save people like us.”

We are praying for you, Miley, because we love you. Underneath that sexually-charged persona is a little girl looking for love that only Jesus Christ can give you.

“There is a God-shaped vacuum in the heart of every human being that cannot be satisfied by any created thing, but only by the Creator Himself, in the Person of Jesus Christ.” Blaise Pascal, French philosopher, 1600s.

Larry Tomczak, BarbWire 24 Comments [9/3/2015 3:25:00 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams
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Quote# 112477

Ha. Ha. Lies and more lies. God is absolutely necessary to explain the universe. Your comment is total foolishness. Science absolutely cannot explain the existence or complexity of life without God.

There is not one thing in the Bible that science has proven to be wrong. Not one. Don't confuse some people's dogmatic confusion of fact and theory. Facts are provable. Faith and theory are not. Neither macro evolution theory or young earth theory are fact. They are both, so far, faith based, not fact.

The Atheist has more faith than the Christian since they have faith all this incredible complexity and order has no designer, happening totally by random chance. Macro evolution is a statistically illogical theory because it is statistically impossible for the thousands of necessary genetic mutations to occur as the theory proposes. No one has ever observed a jump from one kind of creature to another. Now that we know how complex the simplest living cell is, macro evolution theory falls flat.

Finally, the natural process is entropy, not creation. There is no evidence anywhere for raw chemicals naturally being converted into a living creature. There is no evidence for a simple living organism becoming a more complex organism one. Fossil evidence is evidence of the creature that left it, not evidence of its being an biological ancestor of anything that exists today. Macro evolution is the Atheist god and is totally faith-based theory, not scientific fact.

Roger Jones, WND 31 Comments [9/3/2015 3:23:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo
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Quote# 112472

For some reason, the deliberately-injected moral and mental cancer known as 'liberalism', aka 'progressivism' has always seemed to metastasize faster in the Nordic countries, particularly Scandinavian ones. This phenomenon is also observable among the American descendants of Scandinavian immigrants in places like Minnesota and Wisconsin.

The hypothesis of this reporter is that the innate, perhaps even genetic, altruism and human compassion of Nordic folk renders them more vulnerable to manipulation of both the heart and mind. Though the reason for advanced Scandinavian libtardism may not be concrete; one thing is for certain - Sweden is the insanest of the European insane asylums.

There is so much wrong with the politically correct descendants of the Viking 'bad boys' of antiquity -- highest divorce rates in the world, highest suicide rates in Europe, crushing taxation which forces 90% of new mothers back into the work force, a below replacement level birth rate, perhaps the most liberal open-borders policy in Europe, laws against "hate speech", rampant homosexuality and genderless-ness, anti-White self hate, virtually state-imposed Atheism, a female Defense Minister, TV shows and commercials that can be described as soft-core pornography, and, worst of all, snobby ruling class "elites" so absorbed in their smug self-righteousness that they make people like Lizzie Borden Warren seem cool and relaxed.

Now don't misunderstand. We are certain that there are still many masculine men and feminine ladies in Sweden. But the fact that the modern ranks of the true Vikings are steadily shrinking, particularly among the younger generation, is something that several of our Scandinavian readers have confirmed for us.

Mike King, Tomato Bubble 21 Comments [9/3/2015 3:22:18 AM]
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Quote# 112469

[Rentboy.com, a gay escort site, was taken down by the US government.]

Why would Obama suddenly bring the hammer down on homosexual prostitution?

Maybe, in the wake of the Ashley Madison hack, he wants to get all the client information from this website in federal custody to protect the identities of his political and social friends who may be customers.

Or Obama believes, with homosexuality being the flavor of the year in the world of sexual abnormality, this is the moment to haul homosexual prostitutes into court and get some federal judge to rule that prostitution cannot be made illegal under the United States Constitution.


And his best chance to get the favorable ruling he wants, given the current cultural zeitgeist, is if the defendants in courts are homosexual prostitutes rather than heterosexual ones. What politically correct judge today would dare to rule against the sin of sodomy anywhere at anytime?

In other words, Obama is pursuing this action not because he wants to punish homosexual prostitutes but because he wants the Supreme Court to exonerate them.

Bryan Fischer, Barb Wire 53 Comments [9/2/2015 12:12:31 PM]
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Quote# 112467

I would put the phrase "Black lives matter" on par with "Work will set you free" at the former Dachau concentration camp. "Black manners matter" is a mantra that should be adopted instead.


The greatest reason why black lives don't matter is because of the power that the Democratic party has over them. The Democrat party created the Ku Klux Klan, poll taxes, Jim Crow, and they waged war against every major federal Civil Rights Act. Having the lost the battle over racism in the 1960s, the Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on the government to secure their votes.

It can only be called slavery when you have a group of people locked into system that has done them untold harm. Despite the ravages of the welfare programs, blacks vote 93-98 percent of the time for the Democratic party.

Todd Strandberg, Rapture Forums 18 Comments [9/2/2015 12:11:02 PM]
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Quote# 112465

And this is why the no-calls-for-violence policy is idiotic. Nazis are a direct threat to all of us who aren’t middle class white dudes like Futrelle. Whenever bourgeois white people are in charge they ALWAYS work to support those systems that destroy and rape the rest of us, no matter their nominal political affiliations. Bourgeois liberals have always and will always not only tolerate but work together with nazi scum. That’s the sad fact that makes places like this no good for any real change.

Middle class whites gonna white.

scribbles, We Hunted The Mammoth 19 Comments [9/2/2015 12:07:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Yuu
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Quote# 112461

Just don't work yourself to death and become a beta provider dad. There is like 100% chance that their daughter would turn out to be one of these white dick riding ho's. You would rather be deadbeat than be one of those Asian dads.

aznmasc_poster, r/AsianMasculinity 12 Comments [9/2/2015 11:44:20 AM]
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Quote# 112460

“We must confess we are shocked at the violence and servility of the Judicial Revolution caused by the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States. We scarcely know how to express our detestation of its inhuman dicta, or to fathom the wicked consequences which may flow from it. … This decision has sapped the constitution [sic] of its glorious and distinctive features, and seeks to pervert it into a barbarous and unchristian channel … Jefferson feared this Supreme Court, and foretold its usurpation of the legislative power of the Federal Government. His prophecy is now reality. The terrible evil he dreaded is upon us.”

As many of us warned, this opinion is already being used to crush Americans’ constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. This was not lost on the Tribune, which added, “To say or suppose, that a Free People can respect or will obey a decision so fraught with disastrous consequences to the People and their Liberties, is to dream of impossibilities. No power can take away their rights. They will permit no power to abridge them.”

The New York Tribune was equally dismissive: “The decision, we need hardly say, is entitled to just as much moral weight as would be the majority of those congregated in any Washington bar-room.”

OK, I’ll come clean. The above quotes are not in reference to Obergefell. But they might as well have been. These quotes addressed the Supreme Court’s equally illegitimate 1857 Dred Scott decision. Whereas, in Dred Scott, the justices defied natural law and presumed a “right” for whites to own blacks, the court’s 2015 Obergefell decision likewise defied natural law and presumed to deconstruct and redefine the institution of marriage.

Both decisions are illegitimate, and here’s why. For the U.S. Supreme Court to justifiably overturn some law duly passed by the United States Congress, its opinion must be deeply rooted in one or more of the following:

A clear reading of the U.S. Constitution;
Some prior court precedent;
History and the Common Law;
Our cultural customs or traditions;
Some other law enacted by Congress.

As the high court’s four dissenting justices rightly observed in Obergefell, the “five attorneys” who invented this newfangled “right” to “gay marriage,” failed, abysmally, on each and every requirement.

The same was true of Dred Scott.

And so both opinions should be summarily ignored.

As President Andrew Jackson famously quipped of a Supreme Court opinion he thought usurped his executive authority, “[Chief Justice] John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!”

After the Dred Scott decision was released, Sen. William Pitt Fessenden, R-Maine, who later served as Abraham Lincoln’s secretary of treasury, said this: “[It is charged] that I am undermining the institutions of the country by attacking the Supreme Court of the United States! I attack not their decision, for they have made none; it is their opinion.”

Matt Barber, BarbWire 20 Comments [9/2/2015 9:53:19 AM]
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