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Quote# 107396

[Ted Cruz announces he is a candidate for the presidency]

Ill fight for and support the Constitution and thus Ted Cruz ....

the Constitution is what makes America exceptional and America "transforms" to become like every other tyranical/socialist backward country without it.

VisionGuy, WND 34 Comments [3/27/2015 3:37:06 AM]
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Quote# 107394

When Bob Jones University was founded in 1927, they didn't have a problem with punishing homosexuals as vile criminals. The average dumbed-down, television-junkie, American today is woefully ignorant of their Bill of Rights, the U.S. Constitution and the information I just shared with you. In view of all the liberal propaganda supporting LGBT rights nowadays, who would have thought that prior to 1962 all 50 states criminalized homosexuals and punished them as such. Bob Jones III apparently is catering to this weak-kneed generation of compromisers, spineless weasels and sellouts. I think it is a crying shame!

Also, don't forget that it was in 1963 (just a year later) that God and His Word were permanently banned from America's classrooms. It is certainly more than a coincidence that homosexuality was against the law in every state up until the Bible and prayer were removed and banned from our children's daily lives at school. Since the Bible has been removed, homosexuality has flourished since 1963 in our society, to our own demise as a functional nation. Everything's falling apart today!

So I just wanted to point out that according to Bob Jones III's statements this week, our government shouldn't have punished homosexuals in all the states, as they did prior to 1962. And as you just read, founding father Thomas Jefferson wrote a law to have homosexuals castrated (their testicles chopped off!!!), but the higher court insisted on keeping the DEATH PENALTY. Were our nation's founding father's wrong? I'm so sick of hearing Bible colleges praise the wisdom of our founding fathers, but then hypocritically abandon and disassociate themselves from them concerning the crime of homosexuality. Our founding fathers had it right!!! Our country's founding fathers enacted the death penalty for homosexuals!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 26 Comments [3/27/2015 3:26:16 AM]
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Quote# 107390

I know the truth about evolutionism, it's a religion. Hacking on the beliefs of others doesn't prove yours, never has, never will. I guess it's much easier to believe in an exploding dot, miraculous life out of nothing, belief that all humans came from the interbreeding of apes or whatever...

Oboehner, Christian News Network 31 Comments [3/27/2015 3:24:37 AM]
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Quote# 107389

[In the comments section to an article about Phil “Duck Dynasty” Robertson insulting atheists:]

While I strongly disagree with his example, his point is that God is the foundation of morality. You can say all you want "I don't need God to have morals", but the fact is any sense of moral right you have has its roots in God's standard of morality. Without God, there is no morality. Why is murder wrong? Because GOD has placed value on human life and declared it to be wrong. Without God, murder cannot be wrong.


Christopher J. Mills, Huffington Post comments section 32 Comments [3/27/2015 3:24:00 AM]
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Quote# 107134

The Blood Moons in 1492 ~ Was Christopher Columbus a Jew? yes and he was a Christian.

When the Catholic Church was killing everyone who would not kiss the Popes ring the Christian Jews went looking for religious freedom we can see that Christopher called himself a Christian just by his name.

His Voyage to the new world was crowned by a tetrad of four Blood Moons to let everyone in the future know that his Journey to discover what God had held secret and in reserve for his Holy People the Christians would become the worlds greatest nations, from the tip of South America, to the tip of North America.

God planted his Holy Flag Here but God still loves his chosen people yet he only gives them a very very small nation and crowns the gift with a Tetrad and in doing so he announces the return of Christ will come to that generation that establishes the nation of Israel will see his return but not to Israel but to the whole world and every Christian who waits for Christ and is proudly called by his Holy Jewish name.

A pattern begins to develop when you see a Tetrad of four Blood Moons look for a Christian Victory Jesus will return on September's Blood Moon SaintVron

SaintVron, Godlike Productions 17 Comments [3/27/2015 3:13:16 AM]
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Quote# 107117

People have been asking me what secular albums are "safe" to listen to. As a good guideline, ask yourself this... "Does the band / music you wish to listen to include any of the following themes:

Rebellion
Violence
Nihilism (belief in nothing) / Apathy
Escapism / Suicide
Drugs / Alcoholism
Sexual Perversion / Fornication / Pornography

Self-Mutilation
Dissonant / Offensive Sound
The Occult / Satanism
Anti-God / Anti-Authority
Cult-like Organization, Terrorism

If so, you should steer well clear. The Bible, God's Word, teaches us anything that promotes or embraces any of these factors is predominantly anti-Christian, and against all that God's Word stands for. The following are just a few God-haters you should definitely avoid like the plague...

Rock Music: Straight From The Pits Of Hell!

AC/DC: song Hell's Bells, inspired "Night Stalker" serial killer, pentagrams on album art (Highway to Hell), violent cover art (If You Want Blood You Got It), guitarist admitted to being 'possessed' while on stage. Band-name AC/DC purportedly stands for Assault Christians Destroy Christians. Promote pedophilia (guitarist dresses like a school boy on stage), extremely offensive and harsh sound, produces a spirit of hatred and anger. Lead singer, Bon Scott "drank himself to death" at age 33. Avoid this band like the plague.

Aerosmith: drug and alcohol abuse, equating sex and religion on "Angel," glorifying homosexuality and cross-dressing on “Dude looks like a lady”

Agnostic Front: violent and rebellion-themed album art (Cause for Alarm)

Amen: objectionable album art (Disorderly Conduct)

Anthrax: violent album art (Fistful of Metal)

Bad Religion: objectionable band name, objectionable album art (Back to the Known)

Bauhaus: backwards Latin Satanic incantation in "Father, Son and Holy Ghost", Satanic imagery, anti-Christian lyrics

Beach Boys: Brian Wilson said they were trying to create "witchcraft music" in 1966. One band member drowned when he fell drunk off a boat

Beastie Boys: more than 90 references to drug and alcohol abuse on Licensed to Kill

Beatles: promote Communism in "Back in the USSR," sexually degenerate lyrics... "Why don't we do it in the road (1968)," rebellion, fornication, false religion (Catholicism and Eastern Mysticism). Lennon called Jesus a 'garlic eating fascist bastard.' Paul McCartney is an admitted atheist. 'Sgt. Peppers' album cover has Aleister Crowley's face on it

Billy Idol: rebellion, fake crucifixion in "Hot in the City" video, mock crosses in "White Wedding" video, has ‘Idol’ as name (Blasphemy - There shall be NO Idols before God)

Birthday Party: likened Jesus to "bad seed", indecipherable lyrics about "post-crucifixion baby"

Black Flag: violent and suicide-themed album art (Family Man)

Black Market Baby: objectionable band name and album art (Senseless Offerings)

Black Sabbath: number of the beast, crucifixion imagery, objectionable album art (Born Again, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)

Blink 182: rebellion, tattoos, perverted lyrics about sexually abusing animals (F*ck a dog)

Blaspheme: objectionable band name and album art (Last Supper)

Blue Oyster Cult: the occult, promotes Satan worship in the song 'Don't Fear The Reaper'

Boston: promotes fornication, wild immoral parties, drug abuse, indifference, smoking pot, lead singer commit suicide in March 2007 (left a suicide note saying, "I am a lonely soul")

Britney Spears: bi-sexual whore, promotes sexual immorality, lasciviousness, and feminist rebellion

Carlos Santana: Says he's been communicating with a demon named "Metatron" regularly since 1994, promotes New Age, immorality.

Cheap Trick: promote rebellion against parents, fornication

Celtic Frost: use crucifix as slingshot on album cover (To MegaTherion), occult links, rebellion

Christian Death: Gnosticism, sex- and occult-themed album art (Only Theatre of Pain, The Scriptures, Sex and Drugs and Jesus Christ, What's the Verdict)

Coil: devotees of Aleister Crowley

Alice Cooper: on-stage mutilation, rebellion, "School's Out" prevents mice from solving mazes, objectionable album art (Constrictor)

Cramps: "degraded" sexuality (Date With Elvis)

Crass: crucifixion-themed album art (Christ the Album, Yes Sir I Will)

Crown of Thorns: objectionable band name and album art (Pictures)

Cure (The): alcohol abuse, blasphemy in "The Blood" and "Holy Hour", Satanic imagery in artwork

Cradle of Filth: openly satanic music, t-shirts proclaiming 'Jesus is a c*nt, mockery of Christ, anti-Christian lyrics

Danzig: Use satanic imagery

Damned: crown of thorns imagery (Grimly Fiendish)

Dark Angel: objectionable band name and album art (Darkness Descends)

Dark Wizard: objectionable album art (Reign of Evil)

David Bowie: occult, recorded "Quicksand" about Crowley. Promotes rebellion in "Rebel, rebel."

dc Talk: This so-called "Christian" Rock band is of the Devil. DC Talk's Kevin Max Says, "I'd love to hang out with him [Marylyn Manson]." They also promote Jesus as being a "freak."

Dead Kennedys: objectionable album art (In God We Trust, Inc.)

Death: objectionable album art (Scream Bloody Gore)

Death Cult: objectionable album art (Death Cult)

Def Leppard: Promotes pornography in the song, "photograph"

Depeche Mode: songs about sex and sadomasochism, recorded "Blasphemous Rumors"

Deftones: rebellious message, encourages violence

Deicide: vocalist claims to be antichrist, burns inverted crosses on his head, blasphemous lyrics, Satanic imagery

Diamanda Galas: recorded album Litanies of Satan, proclaimed herself the Anti-Christ ("Sono l'Antichristo"), provided music for voodoo-themed movie The Serpent and the Rainbow, objectionable album art (Divine Punishment)

Dickies: mock Jesus on album art (Second Coming)

Doors (The): Patricia (Kennealy) Morrison is a devout Wiccan witch.

Eagles: 'Hotel California' is a tribute to the Church of Satan, proven by COS founder Anton LaVey's picture inside the album cover.

Earth, Wind, and Fire: occult imagery on albums, promote New Age

Electric Hellfire Club: promotes Satanic ideologies

Elton John (Sir): open homosexual legally married to another man, promotes New Age

Elvis Presley: sexual degenerate, fornicator, music promotes lewdness and immorality

Eric Clapton: promotes drug abuse in the song 'Cocaine,' immorality, worldly lyrics

Eurhythmics: "Missionary Man" warns listeners away from salvation

Exodus: album art shows union of God and Satan

Fog Hat: promotes immoral sex

Foreigner: promotes sexual immorality in songs "Dirty White Boy" and "Urgent," also promote alcoholism in "Double Vision"

Frankie Goes to Hollywood: rebellion, songs about sex and sadomasochism, objectionable album art (Welcome to the Pleasure Dome), ruined Live Aid, homosexuality

Good Charlotte: nihilism, rebellious lyrics 'young and hopeless'

Godsmack: voodoo

Generation X: objectionable album art (Valley of the Dolls)

Guns 'n' Roses: "sexual violence" in music, album art; inverted cross (Appetite for Destruction), music caused Virginia Tech Massacre



Harvey Danger: promotes Satanism, nudity, blasphemes Jesus Christ, and mocks the King James Bible.

Helloween: objectionable album art (Keeper of the Seven Keys, Part 2), Has the word ‘Hell’ in band name.

Impaler: objectionable album art (Rise of the Mutants EP), eating raw meat on stage

INXS: recorded song "Devil Inside," committed suicide

Iron Maiden: mascot Eddie told fan to kill himself; necromancy, occult, rebellion, objectionable album art (Killers, The Number of the Beast, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son)

Jimi Hendrix: hypnotizing people through music, voodoo rhythms, rebellion, violence, "If 6 Was 9" used in interstitials

Jane's Addiction: drug abuse, objectionable album art (Nothing is very shocking)
Judas Priest: suicide, rebellion, objectionable album art (Hell Bent for Leather, Sin After Sin)

Jimmy Page: "one of the leading occultists of the rock generation," owns occult bookstore, bought Aleister Crowley's former home and had it refurbished by a Satanic decorator

John Lennon: Original member of The Beatles and solo artists for many years. Blasphemed the name of Jesus Christ, promoted immoral sex, substance abuse, rebellion, Communism, false religion.

Killing Joke: mock Christianity in video, promote satanic ideologies

KISS: bloody stage show, sex, rebellion, violence, perverted bassist sticks his tongue out frequently (A major blasphemy in the Bible), band name KISS purportedly stands for Knights In Satan’s Service. Lead singer, Gene Simmons, claims publickly to have had sex with over 4,600 women in his lifetime

KMFDM: promote satanic ideologies, inspired Columbine High School Massacre

Kreator: objectionable album art (Pleasure to Kill)

Led Zeppelin: backward-masked messages and references to Pan on "Stairway to Heaven," Zoso = number of the beast. Guitarist Jimmy Page idolizes Satanist Aleister Crowley, and even bought his castle.

Linkin Park: encourage violence, rebellious lyrics

Madonna: bi-sexual whore, sexual degenerate, promotes fornication, rebellion, and Satan worship. In the song, "Beautiful Stranger," she mentions the 'Devil,' calls him beautiful, and says "To know you is to love you."

Marilyn Manson: too many evils to mention here, blasphemy, ties to Church of Satan, mocks God, rebellion. Manson tears up Bibles in concert and leads the audience to praise Satan.

Megadeth: occult, rebellion, objectionable album art (Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good)

Mercyful Fate: "take their Satanism seriously", rebellion, occult, objectionable album art (Don't' Break the Oath)

Metal Church: objectionable album art (Metal Church)

Metallica: promote suicide on "Fade to Black"

Monster Magnet: Use occult symbols on album art

Moonspell: songs about vampirism, paganism

Motley Crüe: equate sex and violence, used pentagram in album art (Shout at the Devil)

Motörhead: crucifixion-themed album art

Mudvayne: promotes Satanic ideologies

My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult: Satanic message, objectionable album art (I See Good Spirits and I See Bad Spirits)

Neko Case: sings, "It's the Devil I love"

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds: Satanic imagery

Ozzy Osbourne: rebellion, attacking Jim Bakker in "Miracle Man," Satanic imagery on album art (Blizzard of Ozz, No Rest for the Wicked), promote suicide on "Suicide Solution," released album 'Mr. Crowley' devoted to Aleister Crowley, scary face

Offspring: rebellion

Papa Roach: Use occult symbology on album art

Pink Floyd: lyrics about rebellion

Poison Idea: mutilation-themed album art (Kings of Punk)

Iggy Pop/the Stooges: bloodletting at concert

Nirvana: nihilism, anti-Christian lyrics, violent lyrics, song 'rape me', mock the crucifixion, singer committed suicide, hardly a role model for fans everywhere, and led to fans committing suicide to emulate him.

Nine Inch Nails: rebellious lyrics, nihilism, sex, sick lyrics 'f*ck you like an animal/closer to God.'

Petra: falsely so-called "Christian" Rock band, cross-dressers, purported to be homosexuals.

P.O.D.: (Payable On Death) is another falsely so-called "Christian" Rock band. They blaspheme Jesus Christ with their "Rasta Jesus."

Possessed: general Satanism and witchcraft

Psychic TV: music arm of Crowley-linked sect Thee Temple of Psychick Youth, objectionable album art (Live at Thee Circus)

Queen: backward-masking, drug abuse, homosexuality, cross-dressing; perverted lead singer, Freddie Mercury, died of aids at age 46 (he was purported to have lovers all around the world).

Red Hot Chili Peppers: use occult symbols on album art, rebellion, inspired violence and arson at Glastonbury '99

Rod Stewart: bi-sexual, promotes immoral sex

Rolling Stones: recorded song "Sympathy for the Devil" on Their Satanic Majesty's Request, objectionable album art (Goats Head Soup, Undercover, Tattoo You), bankrolled sect called The Process, made Satanic movie Invocation of My Demon Brother. Mick Jagger curses in God's name in the song 'Beast of Burden,' and in other songs.

Sex Pistols: rebellion, self-mutilation, rotten designed t-shirts with upside-down crucifixion

Sepultura: promotes Satanic ideologies

Silverchair: song ‘israel’s son’ made 18 year old goth Brian Bassett murder his parents

Siouxsie and the Banshees: recorded song "Sin in My Heart"

Sister: pentagrams

Sisters of Mercy: Satanic imagery

Slayer: used pentagram on album art, lyrics glorifying the Devil (Reign in Blood)

Slipnot: use Satanic imagery on album art, violence in lyrics

Smiths: Satanic imagery

Sonic Youth: obsessed with death ("Death Valley '69")

Spooky Tooth: album cover depicts Jesus with hand nailed to head (Ceremony)

Styx: promotes fornication, shacking up, rebellion

Suicidal Tendencies: pentagrams

Suicide: promote suicide

Therion: promote satanic ideologies

Tori Amos: 'father Lucifer' Satanic lyrics, claimed she wanted to marry Satan in interview

Throbbing Grissle: promote Satanic ideologies

Twisted Sister: rebellion, wear women’s make-up, violent album art (Stay Hungry)

Van Halen: cross-dressers, bi-sexual, promote every sin imaginable, including Satan worship in "Running With The Devil," promote immorality, rebellion, extremely offensive and harsh sound, produces a spirit of hatred and anger

Venom: album title Welcome to Hell, pentagram and goat imagery

White Zombie: Anti-Christian imagery, Singer looks like a Zombie (Not a good role model for impressionable children)

Wednesday 13: Too many to mention – This freak is as dangerous as Manson

And of course all black metal bands, as all promote Nazi, pagan and anti-Christian ideologies.

And hundreds more...

David J. Stewart, Jesus Is Savior 56 Comments [3/27/2015 3:13:04 AM]
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Quote# 106965

Any female aversion to beards is yet another extension of their enormous hypocrisy concernin cleanliness. The sheer gall of the female that hates beards, hair and foreskins when she herself is a walkin cesspool of inner plumbin that is an "ecosystem", needs regular checkups, regularly gets infected and fumes out fish odors that would make a blue whale blush - well the best defense is a good offence. Men are naturally cleaner and more intelligent than females, and thus the game for them is to convince men into mutilatin their baby boys into circumstumped-unmales and shavin off their God-given implements of higher intelligence on the head - the hair and beard. Only then will the world be safe for female domination.

Uncle Jeebers, Knights of Banjo Hollow 24 Comments [3/27/2015 3:11:39 AM]
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Quote# 106742

The homosexual invasion of the churches is everywhere. Every day that goes by we find another so-called Christian leader or pastor declaring that he is going to embrace the homosexual agenda and jettison the clear teachings of Scripture.

Of course they won't put it in those terms, but that is exactly what they are doing. They are rebelling against God, and effectively spitting in his face as they declare that they know better than God in regards to all things sexual. What God calls an abomination and depravity they call a "gift of God" and something to celebrate and flaunt.

[...]

When you call God a liar on the issue of homosexuality, and claim that you are being more loving, more compassionate, and more fair by embracing the sin of sodomy and sodomite marriage, then you have clearly declared your hand here. You have rebelled against God and the clear teachings of Scripture.

Bill Muehlenberg, CultureWatch 12 Comments [3/27/2015 3:09:15 AM]
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Quote# 106397

The "Patriarchy" is a God given right. The "Patriarchy" reflects the Trinity: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All evil/false religions are based on a Matriarchy. Liberalism is Satanism. Satan wants to do everything in reverse that God did. A matriarchy is the opposite of patriarchy. Through Liberalism, there has been a slow progressive push to allow for women to have special rights when it comes to anything in society. If they want to pop out 3 bastard kids and have it paid for by man, then they can do that. If they want to kill an unborn kid, then they can make that call and not the father. If they want to have a career and have a big $100K+ job in the corporate world, then affirmative action will make it so. If they want to have an endless string of boyfriends and endless string of sex partners, social engineering will make it so by "normalizing" such behavior through such nationally broadcasted 'sex in the city' types of mainstream media movies and shows and music. If a woman wants to file for divorce because she wants to go have sex with more men, then 'no fault' divorce makes it as easy as 1-2-3. And again, mainstream media will normalize divorce and even celebrate it to encourage such abominations against God.

The more independent men are, then smaller the government. The more 'independent' women are, the bigger the government. Women have NOT achieved any of this on their own. It took global elites to change and establish laws in society backed by military / police force and a court system to ensure women are given special rights. Women seem to think they did this all on their own and are truly "beating men" in life as if that's how it should have been all along.

In a nutshell, the story of Adam and Even has more truth than most realize. The "Eve's" of today are willingly believing the social engineering lies fed to them through mainstream media, and then taking the apple essentially selling mankind out to the overall end game goal of global enslavement.

Women have not achieved anything. If I were a global elite, I could finance politicians to establish laws that would allow for dogs to have special rights in society beyond man. Could the dogs achieve this on their own? Of course not. To collect welfare and have mankind pay for a single mom's kids is theft no different than stealing a car. When that single mom is standing before God one day at the day of judgement, she'll be told go stand next to the rest of the thieves. She won't understand why until she finally realizes that by accepting welfare money that she has participated in theft and she is no better than any thief that robbed a liquor store.

Ghostrider, Return of Kings 15 Comments [3/27/2015 3:07:08 AM]
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Quote# 106380

Let's assume for a moment that we don't choose what we desire, even in normal situations. I don't recall wanting to like accordian music, for instance, but I am cursed with that socially awkward taste (still, Hendrix sounds good covered by an accordian band, honest). If this is the case, then giving someone an additional desire isn't really about taking away their right to rational self-determination, since this right doesn't include choosing what one wants. Such choices are effectively arbitrary to begin with, so what harm is there in having someone else cause such a desire in you?

So, let us suppose that causing someone to love me is not obviously causing them to have a worse life. If this is the case, what harm has been done in giving her a love potion without her informed consent? I'm especially interested in an answer that is consistent with the instrumental presumption: we do not deliberate over our final ends. Can an instrumentalist nonetheless claim that it is wrong to sneak someone a love potion? On what grounds?

phiwum, International Skeptics 19 Comments [3/27/2015 3:06:45 AM]
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Quote# 106265

(Partial transcript from a conversation between Idaho governor and his staff):

Look, I hear that… David and I debate this… but the big difference between the rich and the poor… it’s genetics. Poor people are genetically inferior, but that’s okay… [unintelligible] Don’t jump my roost about it… I didn’t make up that fact. It’s going to have to be okay, because it’s not like we can kill them [laughter from Otter]. But we need to stop spending… you know, spending so much on the inferior… It’s going to raise taxes, hurt economy, if we don’t. [unintelligible] Poor people deserve to live. I’m not heartless… [unintelligible] strict guidelines. Thank God we have religion… [unintelligible] retail… The lesser obviously can’t take care of themselves without it. I represent the genetically inferior… [laughter from Otter]. I’m bringing them jobs… the call centers… The Kuna meat packing plant… [laughter from Otter]. Inferior need to work harder now and realize that big government isn’t here in Idaho. We have to make cuts and John and Stewy back me on this…[unintelligible] the people won’t be able to compete with the superior, but let’s keep the message that they can and everything will work fine.”

Butch Otter, City World News 25 Comments [3/27/2015 3:06:01 AM]
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Quote# 105598

[This is part of an "open letter to Hemant Mehta," a public high school math teacher has been targeted by Laurie Higgins and the Illinois Family Institute for his statements on his blog.]

I have never in any context suggested that you should be fired or that you should resign [...] [M]y goal is to provide information to District 204 parents - particularly IFI readers - about the nature of the ideas you express and endorse on your public blog so that they can make informed decisions as to whether they want their children to spend a school year under your tutelage.

[...]

You fail to acknowledge a central point that I addressed in my two articles, which is that many teens are unduly influenced by emotion and the cult of personality, and therefore are predisposed to look favorably on the ideas of teachers whom they find cool or charismatic or funny or kind or anti-tradition. Adolescence is also a time of rebellion which is why many teens are attracted to rebellions, anti-establishment people and ideas.

If students search your name and come upon your blog, they will be exposed to your endorsement and promotion of ideas that some parents may find deeply troubling. If students have you as their teacher, like you, and develop a relationship with you - as happens often in high school - they will be more likely to look favorably on and be influenced by your ideas than those students who have little or no personal connection to you. This is the reason that many parents care deeply about role models.

It's the reason there were some recent stories about parents being upset that a high school cheerleading coach posed in her private life for Playboy magazine, and why some parents would not want their children in the class of a teacher who in their free time on a public forum promotes racist views or denies the historicity of the Holocaust.

[...]

If you cannot produce any proof from my writing to support your claim that I am "going after" your job, please retract that statement.

Laurie Higgins, Illinois Family Institute 15 Comments [3/26/2015 2:25:30 PM]
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Quote# 105572

With global and national power elites, the 'changing of guard' occurs like clockwork with each revolution of the planets it seems. Old bureaucrats out and in with a new crop of 'crats'.

It has been at least as long as the turn of the nearest greater star system since the guard changed gender and mankind fell under absolute 'bitch rule'. Many changes in groups of MEN ruling, but not recently have we seen a landslide of women grabbing clubs and wagering for a mad power grab. Of record, acient Egypt was the last to fall under severe bitch rule with the priestess judges. An era of bitch rule in a technological age could last longer than a lifetime before it is exhausted and collapses.

Gender cuts across all lines - racial, religious, political, cultural - it is a vector that divides every other category. Every pie graph with which you can categorize humans into separate groups is skewered through the middle like a shishkabob when you factor in gender.

Under 'bitch rule', women donning the robes of power and seizing the 'guard' is the final stage of arrested development for humanity. I've personally experienced and seen women in action hundreds if not thousands of times. Should they be allowed to rule? I will testify HELL NO.

Picture if you will the laughable Darwinian cartoon depicting the drawings of the chimpanzee gradually becoming upright and finally there stands a European man in a suit with briefcase. (and it is undoubtably a cartoon that must have spawned such theory). Then imagine reversing the diagram. Begin with a picture of a patriarchal family, tribe or klan, and devolve it to its most failed state of dysfunction. The picture of the rock bottom gutter for humanity would be a picture of a large burly muscular female holding a whip over a castrated male.

No system of culture or law can survive and remain consistent with the right brain deciding all matters on a whim and a monthly bout of complete psychosis. Our civilizations would never get off the ground. Rome would have been like an etch a sketch tablet. Its foundations shaken and erased monthly. Rome would have NEVER BEEN in other words. No civilization could ever arise until man dominated woman. No matter how much trading the baton from one monthly bedridden damsel to another fresh femme runner, the overriding downward flush would quickly sweep humans under the rug.

This goes for all races - We must all get back control of our women or else we are all looking at entering a long dark age of animal like baby eating barbarism.

kramw, Return of Kings 23 Comments [3/26/2015 2:25:12 PM]
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Quote# 107384

Question: "Why is the idea of eternal damnation so repulsive to many people?"

Answer: In the shifting winds of modern cultures, the idea of everlasting torment and damnation is difficult for many people to grasp. Why is this? The Bible makes it clear that hell is a literal place. Christ spoke more about hell than He did of heaven. Not only Satan and his minions will be punished there, everyone who rejects Jesus Christ will spend eternity right along with them. A desire to reject or revise the doctrine of hell will not mitigate its flames or make the place go away. Still, the idea of eternal damnation is spurned by many, and here are some reasons for it:

The influence of contemporary thought. In this postmodern era, many go to great lengths to assure no one is offended, and the biblical doctrine of hell is considered offensive. It is too harsh, too old-fashioned, too insensitive. The wisdom of this world is focused on this life, with no thought of the life to come.

Fear. Never-ending, conscious punishment devoid of any hope is indeed a frightening prospect. Many people would rather ignore the source of fear than face it and deal with it biblically. The fact is, hell should be frightening, considering it is the place of judgment originally created for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

A flawed view of God’s love. Many who reject the idea of eternal damnation do so because they find it difficult to believe that a loving God could banish people to a place as horrific as hell for all eternity. However, God’s love does not negate His justice, His righteousness, or His holiness. Neither does His justice negate His love. In fact, God’s love has provided the way to escape His wrath: the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (John 3:16-18).

A downplaying of sin. Some find it shockingly unfair that the recompense for a mere lifetime of sinning should be an eternal punishment. Others reject the idea of hell because, in their minds, sin isn’t all that bad. Certainly not bad enough to warrant eternal torture. Of course, it is usually our own sin that we downplay; other people might deserve hell—murderers and the like. This attitude reveals a misunderstanding of the universally heinous nature of sin. The problem is an insistence on our own basic goodness, which precludes thoughts of a fiery judgment and denies the truth of Romans 3:10 (“There is no one righteous, not even one”). The egregiousness of iniquity compelled Christ to the cross. God hated sin to death.

Aberrant theories. Another reason people reject the concept of eternal damnation is that they have been taught alternative theories. One such theory is universalism, which says that everyone will eventually make it to heaven. Another theory is annihilationism, in which the existence of hell is acknowledged, but its eternal nature is denied. Annihilationists believe that those who end up in hell will eventually die and cease to exist (i.e., they will be annihilated). This theory simply makes hell a temporary punishment. Both these theories are presented as viable options to the biblical teaching on hell; however, both make the mistake of placing human opinion over divine revelation.

Incomplete teaching. Many contemporary pastors who do believe in the doctrine of hell consider it simply too delicate a subject to preach on. This further contributes to the modern denial of hell. Congregants in churches where hell is not preached are ignorant of what the Bible says on the subject and are prime candidates for deception on the issue. A pastor’s responsibility is “to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (Jude 1:3), not pick and choose what parts of the Bible to leave out.

Satan’s ploys. Satan’s first lie was a denial of judgment. In the Garden of Eden, the serpent told Eve, “You will not surely die” (Genesis 3:4). It is still one of Satan’s main tactics. “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 4:4), and the blindness he produces includes a denial of God’s holy decrees. Convince the unsaved that there is no judgment, and they can “eat, drink and be merry” with no care for the future.

If we understand the nature of our Creator, we should have no difficulty understanding the concept of hell. “[God] is the Rock, His works are perfect, and all His ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is He” (Deuteronomy 32:4, emphasis added). His desire is that no one perish but that all come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

To contradict the Bible’s teaching on hell is to say, essentially, “If I were God, I would not make hell like that.” The problem with such a mindset is its inherent pride—it smugly suggests that we can improve on God’s plan. However, we are not wiser than God; we are not more loving or more just. Rejecting or revising the biblical doctrine of hell carries a sad irony, which one writer put this way: “The only result of attempts, however well meaning, to air-condition hell is to assure that more and more people wind up there.”

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-damnation.html#ixzz3VMhetZD8


Got Questions Ministries, Got Questions 38 Comments [3/26/2015 3:20:11 AM]
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Quote# 107383

No sin is greater than the other.
But to say what is sin is okay.... now what kind of deception is that. There is no national campeign that yells out any other sin but same sex relations.
Do we have a fornication pride week? Parade? Do fornicators encourage teens that its okay to explore heterosexual relations, its moral and nobody should judge you? Nope.

See, we know its wrong, we do wrong anyways, if someone don't like it, oh well. We don't cry out in flamboyant drama for attention parading our confusion through downtown.
Just a thought.

Honestly, most of us don't care if you're gay, we don't care to know either.
Sure, your people are outcasts, me, personally, I'm a three time violent felon. I'm an outcast too, but I don't advertise my prison number. I don't brag about any of my wrong, or plain crazy decisions.
I just be me, and respect life. Free of suckers and their dysfunction.

Ill bet we can find 2,000,000 people who know same sex marriage is immoral, Facebook 35 Comments [3/26/2015 3:19:56 AM]
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On Friday, “Trunews” host Rick Wiles aired a speech that Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty delivered at the Vero Beach Prayer Breakfast earlier that day, in which Robertson offered gruesome details about how an atheist father would react to watching intruders behead his wife and rape and kill his two daughters while they also cut off his penis .... which would supposedly somehow prove a point about following God’s laws.

“I’ll make a bet with you,” Robertson said. “Two guys break into an atheist’s home. He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters. Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him. And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot them and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”

Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”

“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”

Phil Robertson, Right Wing Watch 47 Comments [3/26/2015 3:06:56 AM]
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Quote# 107374

the civil rights movement, womens' movement, and the hippies of the late '60s and early '70s were a product of communist subversion. none of them were actually about helping people. they purpose was to weaken the USA. and it worked.

it's not the baby boomers' fault for believing. they sincerely wanted to help people. after realizing that they were the victims of those communist scams, i guess that they just got greedy (1980s - present). they learned political correctness from the communists. so they are greedier than ever. but they put on a show of liberalism.

B.wagner, Phillymag 22 Comments [3/26/2015 3:05:54 AM]
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Quote# 107373

Commenting on an article posted entitled "10-year-old boy claims reincarnation" and replying to another member who posited "I'd there are two possibilities -- either demonic influences or fraud.":

My guess it is demonic influences over the children.

Many children have stated that small children have come to visit them as ghosts.

One little boy said the little girl that he sees has glowing green eyes and has claws that scratch his dad.

The dad was pushed down the stairs too.

That isn't a sweet little lost ghost child....... it is a demon that is presenting itself as a child in order to TAKE OVER or influence the living child.

The bible is clear.....it says that we die ONCE and then we are judged.

Hebrews 9:27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment

Sandy

dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 17 Comments [3/26/2015 3:05:13 AM]
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Quote# 107371

Never forget Nero....he started out sane and did some good things in the beginning...until he got into homosexuality, married his SLAVE BOY, killed is own mother, killed other random people on the streets and then turned depraved in the mind.

Is this the kind of authority and leadership we want for this country? Is this the kind of society we want? Is fallen Rome the kind of country we want our country to turn into when we approve of homosexuality?

Homosexuality is doomed for failure, just like Nero and Rome was when all the men were sleeping with slave boys.

Romans 1:28

Sandy

dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 26 Comments [3/26/2015 3:04:43 AM]
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Quote# 107363

When the subject of Gay Marriage comes up, how are Christians doing at communicating the harm to society with the secular world? Do we have logical reasons to present without being perceived as being "Bible-thumping"?

Here are 20 reasons which may help communicate to our secular friends that Gay Marriage is not only a moral issue for Christians, but a societal ill. All but a few of these reasons are secular rather than religious:

1. The whole fabric of gay rights disappears with this fact: There is no scientific evidence that people are born gay, and much evidence exists that proves the opposite. People leave the homosexual lifestyle and desire all the time. (See http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-rights#born.)

2. Marriage is the fundamental building block of all human civilization, and has been across cultural and religious lines for 5000+ years. By encouraging the norms of marriage—monogamy, sexual exclusivity, and permanence—the state strengthens civil society. Society as a whole, not merely any given set of spouses, benefits from marriage. This is because traditional marriage helps to channel procreative love into a stable institution that provides for the orderly bearing and rearing of the next generation.

3. Contrary to the liberal and libertarian viewpoint, marriage is not merely an institution for the convenience of adults. It is about the rights of children. Marriage is society’s least restrictive means of ensuring the well-being of children. Every child has the right to a mom and a dad whenever possible. Numerous studies show that children do best with two biological parents. Here is just one study: Two Biological Parents.

4. Marriage benefits everyone because separating the bearing and rearing of children from marriage burdens innocent bystanders: not just children, but the whole community. History shows that no society long survives after a change that hurts the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman.

5. Law cannot be divorced from reality—from nature. The two sexes are complementary, not undifferentiated. This is a fact of nature, thus given by God. No government has the right to alter what is true by nature. (See America’s Declaration of Independence.)

6. Redefining marriage would diminish the social pressures and incentives for husbands to remain with their wives and BIOLOGICAL children, and for men and women to marry before having children.

7. The results of redefining marriage—parenting by single parents, divorced parents, remarried parents, cohabiting couples, and fragmented families of any kind—are demonstrably worse for children. According to the best available sociological evidence, children fare best on virtually every examined indicator when reared by their wedded biological parents. Studies that control for other factors, including poverty and even genetics, suggest that children reared in intact homes do best on educational achievement, emotional health, familial and sexual development, and delinquency and incarceration. In short, marriage unites a man and a woman holistically—emotionally and bodily, in acts of conjugal love and in the children such love brings forth—for the whole of life.

8. Studies show domestic violence is three times higher among homosexual partnerships, compared to heterosexual marriages. A large portion of murders, assaults, other crimes and various harms to children occur along with, or as a consequence of, domestic violence. Half of pedophilia attacks are homosexual, for example. Normalizing homosexual marriage also encourages non-marital homosexual activity, and thus the social pathologies associated with it.

9. Promiscuity is rampant among homosexuals, including those who are married. Various studies indicate that gays average somewhere between 10 and 110 different sex partners per year. The New York Times, among many other sources, reported the finding that exclusivity was not the norm among gay partners: “With straight people, it’s called affairs or cheating,” said Colleen Hoff, the study’s principal investigator, “but with gay people it does not have such negative connotations. ‘Openness’ and ‘flexibility’ of gay relationships are euphemisms for sexual infidelity.” One study showed that only 4.5% of homosexual males said they were faithful to their current partner, compared to 85% of heterosexual married women and 75.5% of heterosexual married men. Promiscuity is a destabilizing influence on society.

10. The confusion resulting from further delinking childbearing from marriage would force the state to intervene more often in family life and expand welfare programs. If marriage has no form and serves no social purpose, how will society protect the needs of children—the prime victim of our non-marital sexual culture—without government growing more intrusive and more expensive? Without healthy marriages, the community often must step in to provide (more or less directly) for their well-being and upbringing. Thus, by encouraging the norms of marriage—monogamy, sexual exclusivity, and permanence—the state strengthens civil society and reduces its own role. (Libertarians, do you see the importance of this? If you want the state to be less intrusive, get off the gay marriage idea!)

11. Promoting marriage does not ban any type of relationship: Adults are free to make choices about their relationships, and they do not need government sanction or license to do so. People are free to have contracts with each other. All Americans have the freedom to live as they choose, but no one has a right to redefine marriage for everyone else.

12. Law is a teacher. Just as many people, even some Christians, thought that slavery was okay when it was legal, will think that gay marriage is OK when it is legal.

13. Gay marriage is undeniably a step into other deviances. What will result are such things as plural marriages and polygamy. These things could not logically be turned back, and will initiate a further plunge of societal stability.

14. Only a small percentage of gays who are given the right to marry do so anyway (4% by one study). This proves that the gay marriage movement is not about marriage, but about affirmation.

15. Anal intercourse leads to numerous pathologies, obviously because the parts do not fit! Among items in a long list of problems listed by researcher and physician James Holsinger are these: enteric diseases (infections from a variety of viruses and bacteria including a very high incidence of amoebiasis, giardiasis, and hepatitis, etc.), trauma (fecal incontinence, anal fissure, rectosigmoid tears, chemical sinusitis, etc.), sexually transmitted diseases (AIDS, gonorrhea, simplex infections, genital warts, scabies, etc.). Anal cancer is only one of other medical problems higher in gay men that heterosexual men, especially monogamous heterosexual men. Society at large pays for these diseases. (Speaking to “Christian Libertarians,” unlike certain activities that also contribute to national health problems, such as obesity, homosexuality is morally wrong. Poor eating habits are not a moral issue; gluttony is not a sin.)

16. The ravages of the gay lifestyle are severe upon the gay community itself but also for society at large. The best available evidence shows that those practicing homosexual behavior have a 20% to 30% shorter life span. A much higher rate of alcoholism, drug abuse, sexually transmitted disease, domestic violence, child molestation and more occur in homosexual populations. (See http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-rights#ravages.)

17. It is okay to discriminate. We discriminate all the time in our rules and laws. It is illegal to marry your parent. It is illegal to be a pedophile or a sociopath, no matter how strong the innate tendency might be.

18. Gay marriage and religious freedom are incompatible because it will marginalize those who affirm marriage as the union of a man and a woman. The First Amendment is at stake! This is already evident in Massachusetts and Washington, D.C., among other locations. After Massachusetts redefined marriage to include same-sex relationships, Catholic Charities of Boston was forced to discontinue its adoption services rather than place children with same-sex couples against its principles. Massachusetts public schools began teaching grade-school students about same-sex marriage, defending their decision because they are “committed to teaching about the world they live in, and in Massachusetts same-sex marriage is legal.” A Massachusetts appellate court ruled that parents have no right to exempt their children from these classes. Businesses that refuse to accept gay marriage as a legitimate institution will be penalized. It is a certainty that the church will at some point, be unable to preach the full council of God. It will be considered hate speech to speak of traditional marriage as right. Churches will begin losing their tax exempt status. Individuals who speak out against gay marriage will be penalized. This is only the tip of the iceberg. (Speaking again to "Christian Libertarians” who are OK with gay marriage: Do you see the issue here? This is important! Legalizing gay marriage nationally will lead to an assault on religion.)

19. Homosexual practioners cost more than they contribute via disproportionate diseases and disasters such as HIV, hepatitis, herpes, mental illness, substance abuse, suicide, assault, etc. The Center for Disease Control estimates that each HIV infection ALONE generates $700,000 in direct and indirect costs. (Source: Family Research Report, April 2014)

20. Homosexual activity and marriage robs our future by: having fewer children, poorly socializing the children they raise, commit about half of all child molestations recorded in the news. (Source: Family Research Report, April 2014)

The question is asked, why shouldn't two people who love each other be allowed to get married? ANSWER: Marriage is not about love. In many countries around the world, marriages are arranged. Marriage is about the rights of children and thus is about supporting the next generation. Anything that weakens the institution of marriage is an injustice to children and a travesty to the culture.

Faith Facts, Faith Facts 50 Comments [3/25/2015 3:25:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris
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Quote# 107362

"...overwhelming evidence supporting evolution..." *cough, cough, choke* Sure, it must be invisible or top-secret because no one has ever been able to show me any.

Zealots, such as yourself, simply cannot incorporate new data into your belief system unless it conforms to your pre-conceived "theory"; and that is why evolutionism is a religion. When confronted by affirmative evidence that everything in your Darwinian book of fables is verifiably untrue (gill slits), you do not incorporate that information, Instead you lie, twist words and spread misinformation in an effort to hold onto what you WANT to be true, shoving everything whether it fits or not into your little evolutionism box. It's really quite pathetic, from an educational standpoint.
Sorry :-).


Oboehner, Christian News Network 45 Comments [3/25/2015 3:25:23 AM]
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Quote# 107361

After news broke that Florida’s Republican governor Rick Scott’s administration had forbid state employees from using the phrase “climate change” during official business, many conservatives claimed that people were overreacting. After all, they reasoned, Rick Scott wouldn’t seriously punish scientists for talking about climate change.

Oh yes, he would.

According to a press release issued by the Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, a Land Management Plan Coordinator named Bart Bibler has already been suspended without pay for mentioning in his notes that climate change was discussed at an environmental meeting. His “Official Written Reprimand” cites things like “insubordination” and “conduct unbecoming a public employee.” The reprimand goes on to explain in detail that Bibler was being punished for giving the “appearance” that a meeting had been held to discuss climate change – a no-no in Republican Florida:

“I asked you to provide a summary of the meeting. You first provided a takeaway summary of the meeting, but had provided that summary in a document that used the agenda header from Ann Lazar, the meeting moderator, which gave the appearance that this was Ann’s official meeting agenda that included climate change.“

Later the letter asks Bibler to hereby abstain from inserting “any personal agenda or political advocacy into the work you perform” and to “remain unbiased and impartial, and focused on the issues at hand.”

If the violation is ridiculous, than Bibler’s punishment is doubly so. According to PEER:

As he was given the reprimand on March 9th, Mr. Bibler was told to not return to work for two days which would be charged against his personal leave time. Two days later he received a “Medical Release Form” requiring that his doctor supply the DEP with an evaluation of unspecified “medical condition and behavior” issues before being allowed to return to work.

Only in Rick Scott’s Florida can a man be deemed mentally unfit for agreeing with 97% of the world’s scientists on the state of the Earth’s climate.

State of Florida, addicting info 21 Comments [3/25/2015 3:25:15 AM]
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Quote# 107357

The gay lobby has been increasingly influential over the Mormon Church, such that by 2015 pro-homosexual agenda legislation began to pass easily in Utah.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia, Gay Lobby 20 Comments [3/25/2015 3:22:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar
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Quote# 107355

(Denying evolution is a science, calling it a religion instead)

You keep claiming "science" when there is none.
Did they test "billions of years"? No they can't.
Did they test speciation? No, they can't.
Just more flat earth blood-letting which conveniently can't be tested, observed, or duplicated. Guess you just have to take it on faith - religion.

(Note - he says "flat earth blood-letting" to mock things which scientists believed to be true at one time.)

Oboehner, Christian News Network 19 Comments [3/25/2015 3:21:55 AM]
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Quote# 107353

“I feel that now is the perfect time to speak my mind without fear of retaliation by the president, the attorney general, the federal government etc.,” Zimmerman explained. “Initially I was extremely alleviated. Quickly that turned into realization that the Department of Justice finding that there was no basis to pursue [federal] charges was just the beginning of a journey — my personal journey — to correct the wrongs that the federal government did. To ensure that it never happens to any innocent American ever again.”

The former neighborhood watchman insisted that he had a “clean conscience” after he was found to be not guilty.

“I believe God has his plans, and for me to second-guess them would be hypocritical, almost blasphemous,” he said when asked if he wished the encounter that ended Martin’s life would have turned out differently.

George Zimmerman, Rawstory.com 32 Comments [3/25/2015 3:21:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas
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