Quote# 23484

ah poor you feel picked on jews complain about the nazi while demanding to be allowed to do the same thing as the nazi
there is more european nationalists today then ever in history it will not be long till european nations and america balkinize- it will not be long till europeans stand up and fight for the same thing as other ethnics get in totality a safe haven without people calling them bigots racists the new western imperium is being built-on all learning experiences of here and now today -things will change
in short order time is nothing the dream- of freedom and liberty is in every last one of us And i am a proud Nazi dont like it go to israel=where you dont have to sit there and listen to me~ or deal with me learn to live and let live this is fact the more you silence us- the stronger we become the more hate laws you create the stronger we become the more minorities-that come to european nations the stronger we become the more double-standards jews have demanding seperatism for israel but calling europeans countries racist for not allowing hundreds of millions of none europeans in our countries the stronger we become
hail the new western imperium-coming to european nations around the world

angel l, gather.com 7 Comments [4/12/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 49783

02:16 PMOct 11 2008

This is just one leader, there are many more. The "far right" (people who want Whites to control OUR OWN countries) is on the rise in Europe and it will be soon in America also. American and Europe belong to the White race and we're not going anywhere. It's you negroids and your degenerate supporters that will be leaving, voluntarily or by force. That I can promise. The winds of change are blowing, and Whites are sick and tired of being bullied around by minorities and their "special rights" led by their Jewish masters. RIP Haider - the White race will never forget your heroic win for Austria.

SobekXI, AOL 17 Comments [10/15/2008 2:10:41 PM]
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Quote# 112782

Los Angeles (AFP) - A white US police officer who turned in his chief for allegedly making a series of racist slurs in reaction to a black woman's complaint said he fears for his life.

Officer Alex Stone, of the small city of Clatskanie, in the western state of Oregon, said he and fellow officer Zack Gibson decided to come forward in August after watching "in complete bewilderment" as their police chief, Martin Hoover, pounded on his chest and howled like a monkey while being briefed about a complaint by a black suspect.

"We were just completely at a loss for words," Stone said Wednesday. "I was raised to believe that everyone is created in God's image... and I won't tolerate anyone, especially if they are in power, treating people as if they are less than human."

He said when he expressed surprise at Hoover's reaction, telling him that the woman filing the complaint had been injured, the chief said: "That's what they deserve."

Stone told AFP that he has received death threats from the local community and been racially abused since he and Gibson filed a complaint earlier this summer.

"Just yesterday one of the local business owners said he wanted to take me into the woods and shoot me in the head. Another said he wanted to string me up by a noose," said the 36-year-old officer. "People are emailing me saying they hope I get shot in the head.
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"My wife got run off the road twice... and my three children are scared," he added. "I feel like people are telling me to leave."

The case comes amid a renewed debate in the United States over race relations and police violence.

Protests have erupted in several cities across the country in recent months, touched off by perceived police brutality against unarmed black men or women.

- Eroding trust? -

Martin Hoover was placed on paid administrative leave after the complaint and retired soon afterwards, receiving praise from the city for his services.
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In a letter to the local paper last week, mayor Diane Pohl thanked Hoover "for a job well done."

"Just take it easy on the elk, bear and fish that you will have more time to pursue," she added.

Mat dos Santos, of the American Civil Liberties Union in Oregon, which helped Stone with his complaint, said the case highlighted growing distrust of the police.

"Right now, public trust in the police is very low based on all these incidents that have taken place across the country and this incident widens the chasm between police and the communities they serve," he said.

"The public wants to believe that there are good officers out there, that not every officer is a bad apple and what this chief did further erodes public trust in the police."
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Stone said that while fellow police officers in Clatskanie, home to about 2,000 residents, and across the country have voiced support for his actions, he has faced a backlash from the community and city officials.

"Not one city official has contacted me or my family to see if we are OK," he said.

Still, he said he did not regret filing the complaint.

"I want people to understand that the majority of police officers are not racist," he said. "We really do care about everybody.

"This person (Hoover) does not reflect the majority of police officers."

Neither Hoover nor city officials could be immediately reached for comment.

Police Chief Martin Hoover, Anonymous Clatskanie residence, Yahoo! 11 Comments [9/13/2015 7:03:23 AM]
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Quote# 111967

Because of sports I spent a lot of time when I was growing up in South Central L.A. (it was purely black then but now is half-Hispanic) and saw the Great American Negro unrestrained in his native habitat. I learned quickly that whites who had the least contact with blacks were the ones who thought most highly of them and those like me who had regular contact, not with an anomalous few, but with your garden-variety black, understood the reality of racial differences. My experience made it clear to me that the old saw, “Once you get to know them you will realize that our differences are only skin deep,” had it exactly inverted. I quickly learned that the least of our differences were skin color and that the more I knew of them the less I wanted them around me or even in my country. Meanwhile, people who had zero contact with blacks back in the Fifties in Wisconsin or England gushed about how wonderful Negroes were and how our bad opinions of them were a matter of prejudice. I told those people, including one of my brothers-in-law who had grown up in England, that I hadn’t pre-judged Negroes but, quite the opposite, my opinions came from years of regular contact with them in the heart of South Central L.A.—or deepest, darkest Africa as we called it.

A reader from Southern California, View from the Right 3 Comments [8/18/2015 3:22:23 AM]
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Quote# 115553

The White Race Is The Only Race To Never Have Created Anything Independently.

Every other race has had empires and kingdoms spanning millennia.

In the case of the Africans and the Chinese several.

The real point however is that every non White Race had empires that they built entirely independent of any other races involvement.

Only the White race has had to exploit and steal the inventions and labor of people who they had conquered who were already waning from old age anyway.

Every invention you list has non white finger prints on it in some way whether at the design stage or the implementation stage not to mention the improvement stage.

White peoples "Grand" Civilization is only less than 500 years old and is borne out of theft,falsifying history and genocide.


Before they ranged from Noble Savages in the North the Nords down to primitive savages called Celts and brutal nomadic savages called Huns and Vandals.

The Romans despised them and actually NAMED them Barbarians and the Greeks knew not of them as their gaze was focused on Africa exclusively which was where the Greeks were Civilized.

Persians,Babylonians,Egyptians and Indians all raised up and perfected Civilization before a White Man learned to walk on two legs instead of four.

The Whole point of a New World Order is because whites cannot lay a legitimate claim to the old one.

Finally, every race on earth has gone through the stages of Evolving from primitive to Civilized EXCEPT the White Man.

Why?

Because the White Man is so new that he was raised up by already evolved non White races who TAUGHT him civilization.

So he never had to go through the stages everyone else had.

NOW you know why the White Man seeks out Alien beings to explain his development and origin because his Luciferian Ego MK Ultra programming cannot bear the truth.
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So when you see white people posting to EACH OTHER how great they are and how wonderful civilization is that "They created" what you are actually seeing is a people who are not convinced.

The reason they are not convinced is because they can feel the absence of history in their story.

They are too new and are trying to convince themselves and anyone they THINK they influence.

The jig is up. In the end the White Man ALWAYS has to resort to violence to maintain control because he is counterfeit meaning not the real deal.

this is why he will Always,always,always break any and every Contract. He cannot relax lest someone catch on.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 7 Comments [12/26/2015 5:57:23 AM]
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Quote# 133501

Michael Chikindas, a Microbiology Professor at Rutgers University, has made a myriad of shamelessly antisemitic claims in a series of Facebook posts. Chikindas peddled several antisemitic conspiracy theories, referencing “international fat Jewish pockets” and blaming Jews for everything from 9/11 to cancer.

He described “orthodox judaism” and Zionism as “the best of two forms of racism”, calling Judaism the “most racist religion in the world. Disgracefully, he claimed that the Armenian Genocide, a Genocide so awful that many scholars compare it to the Holocaust, was “orchestrated by the Turkish Jews who pretended to be the Turks”.

He also said that Israel was aiming at the “extermination” of the Palestinians, bizarrely attributing its failure to do so to Israel’s thriving LGBT+ population, saying that it is “because of the number of the Jews of ‘alternative’ sexual orientation (25% of the Tel Aviv inhabitants are gay/lesbians and Israel has more of these than the Netherlands)”. Chikindas, apparently fixated on LGBT+ Jews, had previously posted that “Israel, the country of the Jews and for the Jews, has one of the highest percentage of gays in the world”.

Chikindas also shared a series of antisemitic conspiracy theories on his profile. One used the “happy merchant”, an antisemitic caricature of a Jew which is commonly used online by antisemites, and blames Jews for everything from “Hollywood” to the “cancer industry”. Another showed a caricature of a Jew being carried by America whilst saying “I am God’s chosen people, you filthy goyim”.

Sharing an article about a “global elite”, he wrote “These jewish motherf*****s do not control me. They can go and f**k each other in their fat a***s — you see, I really do not have anything to loose (sic), hence nothing to be controlled”. Despite his Facebook profile providing a dozens of examples of blatant antisemitism, when interviewed by the Algemeiner, Chikindas predictably denied being antisemitic, claiming to have previously been married to a Jewish woman. Attempting to justify his claims of Jewish racism, he pointed to the Talmud. Antisemites frequently cite fabricated, mistranslated or otherwise misleadingly presented passages from the Talmud to attempt to portray Jews as inherently elitist to support Antisemitic conspiracy theories.

When pressed for comment, Rutgers University’s Neal Buccino stated that “Professor Michael Chikindas’ comments and posts on social media are antithetical to our university’s principles and values of respect for people of all backgrounds, including, among other groups, our large and vibrant Jewish community. Such comments do not represent the position of the University”, and whilst the University respects free speech, it aims for an “an environment free from discrimination, as articulated in our policy prohibiting discrimination”.

With respect to Chikindas’ future at the University, Buccino added “the university is reviewing this matter to determine if actions taken in the context of his role as a faculty member at Rutgers may have violated that policy”. We will be watching the progression of this investigation with keen interest. Any outcome that does not remove Chikandas from contact with students would be to allow an antisemite a respected position from which he could influence students with his virulent antisemitic views.

Michael Chikindas, Everyday Antisemitism 2 Comments [10/28/2017 1:31:00 AM]
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Quote# 130368

A children’s playground in Mace Park in the seaside town of Dovercourt in Essex has reportedly been vandalised with antisemitic and racist graffiti, including swastikas. According to the Harwich and Manningtree Standard, the playground’s swings, slides and climbing frames were all daubed with racist messages.

In photographs published by the newspaper, a swastika is clearly visible painted in black on a pink swing and the word “Jew” is scrawled in black on the blue roof of a climbing frame.

Nigel Brown, Tendring Council’s communications manager, told the newspaper that “An officer has been over to inspect the site and it is our aim to have the equipment steam cleaned tomorrow to remove all the graffiti.” Dave McLeod, Harwich Town councillor for the area, hit out at the vandalism, commenting: “I am totally disgusted quite honestly. The park is somewhere for children to enjoy and people have spoilt it. What is the deterrent? Do we really need CCTV on our play areas?”

Local parents and families are reportedly furious about the graffiti and have spoken out in disgust. One grandmother who takes her four-year-old grandson to the park said: “What if my grandson was to ask me what it means? I wouldn’t know what to say to him.”

Unknown vandal, Campaign Against Antisemitism 0 Comments [8/10/2017 3:25:08 PM]
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Quote# 9567

[responding to story about a sick baby whose mother prays for it, the baby turns out to be hitler]

wonder
did god grant him mercy to kill all those descendants of the guys who nailed his son to a tree?

did god bring hitler into this world for a grand design far beyond the grasp or mere mortal minds arrogant enough to think they could not only understand gods mind but judge it?

or

did god put hitler there to remind us that any group of people can do this to any other group of people for no bigger reason than because (see Americans/Indians) (English/Aboriginies) (Japaness/Chinese) (Russians/Afganistans) (Spanish/Inca & Aztec) (English/Scottish) (English/Indian) (Any Religious Extremist group/Any smaller or weaker group that holds a different view)

hope this didn't offend...but i feel strongly...hitler was only a small part of the ugliness that was Germany in WW2

alphahaunt, Livejournal 8 Comments [2/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21768

Yes, another poster was correct. Though similar to Porch Monkeys, I also believe what you saw was the always elusive Yard Ape. Usually found in the Great Plains region Yard Apes have been known on occasion to migrate as far south as Central Texas. The best way to differentiate between the two is to note the close proximity of a Lincoon Coontinental, with this you can always be assured that you have indeed spotted the authentic Yard Ape.

Negro Spotting is a wonderful hobby and retired white people often partake in this activity whilst traveling about in their motor homes. There are so many colorful colored folk across this great land, it boggles the mind.

For Instance: The New York & New Jersey states have negros known as Crackheads and Pimps-n-Hos; much like the Texas Moon Crickets this group is seen in the dark of the night and only come out during the daylight hours to replenish their needed supplies. Further south in the Washington D.C. and Maryland area, you will find your Welfare Negros. This group has settled in this area due to the fact that their monthly check is delivered in a very short period of time. As stated before the South Eastern States, Georgia, Virginias, Carolinas, are home to the Native Porch Monkeys. Moving farther West, in Alabama and Mississippi, you will encounter the Uncle Toms; who are a very content group living off the land and whatever they can scrape up off the road. Entering Louisiana, you will find perhaps Americas most unique group of negros, the Coonass. Such a different group, the Coonass's language and culture cannot be understood by even their closest black brethren. The Midwest, Detroit and Chicago, is home to the Uppities ;who's howls and rants can be heard twenty four hours a day for miles and miles. You will find the Mountain states practically devoid of American negros, due to the fact that even negros can't stand to be surrounded by that many Mexicans and Mormons. California is the only true melding pot for the American Negro and you can find most of the tribes living there at any time.

286429841, Austin Craigslist 15 Comments [3/6/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 95191

Right now the jew may not give a fuck because they control the air we breathe, along with much else, but the fucking air is sprayed white with fibers, particles, and ungodly looking shit I’ve been observing under a microscope steadily for the past year. I’ve documented everything of course, which brings me to the total disinfo announcement below, which claims that micro-fibers from our washing machines are now in the food chain! BULLSHIT, DOUBLE BULLSHIT. These god damn nano-fibers are the same ones they spray from the fucking tankers everywhere and I’ve been sampling them in the rain, the air, spider webs, and on surfaces no where near a god damn washing machine and taking photographs for over a year of this exact stuff. IT IS NOT HOUSEHOLD POLYESTER FIBERS. It is nanofibers and patented technology with a multitude of uses and for delivery of vaccines or bio-weapons. ALL THESE FILTHY CREATURES HAVE TO DO NOW IS CHANGE THE FORMULA AND WE ARE DONE.

WHITE PATRIOT, Lord Kalki 6 Comments [6/25/2013 3:04:14 AM]
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Quote# 107178

WHITE females in their childbearing prime ought to be shamed, nay coerced, into abandoning their own hopes, dreams, and aspirations and procreating with a God-fearing man! I humbly argue that social pressure has generally NOT produced the desired results; only legislation modeled after “Mother Russia” and "Muzzie Iran" will induce WHITE women to birth and raise children. Socialist medicine to cure those baby blues--direct cash payments to females for every child popped out like popcorn and accommodating work schedules to account for those udderly ridiculous late night feeding frenzies!

Even if young men and women are ill-prepared intellectually or financially to care for them (freedom be damned!), and despite the wolf of Cultural Marxism that breathes down the neck of innocent Robby or Libby, every single member of the Christian libertarian intelligentsia or Greek Orthodox Brigade is obligated to hit the lecture circuit and step onto the soapbox, with bullhorn in tow, to proudly advertise to the Roissy’s and feminazi’s of the world that their outright refusal to settle down and raise WHITE children is a recipe for demographic homicide.

Thomas Malthus, Vox Popoli 14 Comments [3/19/2015 3:27:12 AM]
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Quote# 124597

More recently, the "‘Local Zoning Decisions Protection Act of 2017", which was introduced into committee in both the House and the Senate in January, would ban Federal funds from being used to "design, build, maintain, utilize, or provide access to a Federal database of geospatial information on community racial disparities or disparities in access to affordable housing."

Paul Gosar, Greater Greater Washington 1 Comments [2/17/2017 5:23:03 PM]
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Quote# 121317

Eric Trump denied reports that his father planned to revise his immigration policy, which involves mass deportations and a border wall paid for by Mexico.

“My father’s speaking about immigration all week, so I won’t steal his thunder and his fire,” Eric Trump told “Fox and Friends” on Monday morning, as Donald Trump was hurling Twitter insults at MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“But you know, my father’s immigration plan is pretty simple,” the younger Trump said. “He wants secure borders. You have to know who’s coming into the United States of America. You can’t let people come in unchecked. We have 100 million people in this country that are out of the workforce. Right? I mean we have manufacturing jobs in this country have gone down one-third since 2000. We’re losing jobs across the board, yet people are walking in unchecked and we don’t know who they are. And they could be ISIS.”

Eric Trump said his father wanted to protect Americans and their jobs from foreigners.

“I mean, they should come first — you were born in this country, you were born here legally, you’re here legally,” Eric Trump said. “I mean, wages have been stagnant for the last 15 years and it’s because you have, you know, Syrian refugees coming in. It’s because you have, you know, thousands of people coming over the border.”

The median wage has remained relatively stagnant for decades, although some economists believe that metric is misleading, but Syrian refugees aren’t to blame.

The U.S. has admitted nearly 11,000 refugees from Syria since its civil war erupted five years ago.

“I mean, and Americans are suffering because of it, and that’s his point,” Eric Trump said. “So he’s speaking to Hispanic and Latino leaders and he’s having really amazing conversations. He’s also speaking to law enforcement, he’s speaking to border patrol. And you know he’s going formulate a really, really great plan that’s humane and ethical and that treats everybody well. But we have to solve the problem. It’s a real problem for this country.”

The younger Trump dismissed the notion that his father had changed his position on immigration.

“My father hasn’t flip-flopped on anything,” he said. “This was all the auspices of one article that came out that didn’t really — wasn’t grounded in any substance. But again, my father is giving a big speech on this on Thursday so he’ll be talking a lot about the specifics.”

Eric Trump, Raw Story 9 Comments [8/27/2016 6:13:34 AM]
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Quote# 13462

i feel so proud of myself! i caused another violation to the jew! well basically i was walking and i saw the jew and his wife walking to their satan temple place. well she was holding a baby so i took the baby from her hands and i threw it on the floor and stamped on it as hard as i could. the scum satan woman was crying so much - serves her right!
we will kill the jews!

kiljews, The Christian Party 88 Comments [8/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 71667

[On the topic of the lesbian couple kicked out of prom in Mississippi]

The article cites not a single student who seemed bothered by the lesbian couple. It seems the administration and not the students are upset by the lesbian couple.

The school web page http://www.itawambaahs.com/ includes a photos link.

But it seems that they are pretty liberal. They have a black student and in one photo he is touching a white girl. Once I saw this photo I knew a lesbian couple was certainly the next step towards decadence.

awake-n-angry, Free Republic 24 Comments [3/23/2010 4:05:52 AM]
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Quote# 7774

['the latest census reported 24% of blacks as being BELOW the poverty line, but racist tend to not want to hear this']

Then I'm not a racist by your standard because I'm pleased to hear that now only 24% of blacks' income is below the poverty level.

Venus de Smilo, Free Conservatives 4 Comments [9/4/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 104465

Obama, in his sick, twisted, black marxist mind, absolutely believes that White first worlders, especially Americans, owe something to Africa/Africans. Of course he is 100% wrong. The problems of Africans, and blacks in general for that matter, are entirely their own fault. We owe nothing to Africa and nothing to blacks anywhere in the world. They started the Ebola epidemic by eating "bush meat" and they continue to do so even though they have been told not too do this. They do this because they have no impulse control. The same way they continue spread the AIDS epidemic in Africa and elsewhere through rape and "down low" homosexual behavior.

Also, these mostly White health care workers going to Africa are not heros. Far from it. They are irresponsible, attention seeking faux martyrs. They are putting healthy, decent productive White citizens at risk so they can feel good about themselves and brag to their liberal friends about how they "care", and "help black people".

We need a complete travel ban (health care workers and all) to/from Sub-Saheran Africa, and we also need a permanent ban on ALL third world immigration to the US. Basically, we need to repeal the 1965 immigration act and return to pre-1965 percentages and requirements.

AutomaticSlim, WND 9 Comments [11/3/2014 3:55:59 AM]
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Quote# 69708

I hope this nigger does get elected, so the world can finally see how stupid and incompetent even the 'smartest' niggers are (not like it already isn't completely obvious, but many of you liberal idiots are blind to reason and cling to your ludicrous warm-fuzzy ideology). The only reason this niglet got as far as he has, is a result of Affirmative action (see president of harvard law review scandal), and the fact that his 50% white heritage puts him at a huge intellectual advantage when it comes to the average watermelon munching, crack smoking, chicken chewing porch monkey nigger. He's a Nigger Puppet for the Left Wing. This blog kicks ass.

Barry Obama, Smartpunters 9 Comments [1/25/2010 9:33:48 AM]
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Quote# 123282

Trump fans’ ‘Deploraball’ party descends into chaotic infighting over Nazi salutes and book burnings

It didn’t take long for the racist Trump fans organizing the “Deploraball” inauguration party to turn on each other.

A major fight has broken out among Trump’s white nationalist fans over whether they should celebrate Trump’s pending inauguration by showering him with Nazi salutes.

Alt-right leader Mike Cernovich, who is organizing the Deploraball, started a massive fight this week after he told popular alt-right Twitter personality @bakedalaska that he couldn’t attend the party if he was going to do Nazi salutes of the kind that white nationalist Richard Spencer encouraged during his talk at the National Policy Institute conference earlier this month.

@bakedalaska quickly took his grievances with Cernovich online to his 131,000 followers.

@bakedalaska’s fan base quickly rallied to his side — and one of them even showed his support by burning a copy of Cernovich’s book in protest.

The neo-Nazis at The Daily Stormer quickly got involved and declared that Cernovich was a member of the “cuck/kike contingent of the Trump movement” who had “banned… heroes such as Richard Spencer and Sam Hyde” from attending the inauguration ball, while still inviting “Alt-Light figures attempting to kike-over the Alt-Right by making it non-racist and accepting of Jews.”

At any rate, if the supposed saviors of the white race have this much trouble organizing a little dance without descending into chaos, it’s hard to see how they’ll fare any better in stopping the coming “white genocide” they’re so worried about.

Assorted Alt-Righters, RawStory 10 Comments [12/28/2016 2:02:47 AM]
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Quote# 97494

(On Jews)

You totalitarian Leftist filth. You are just vile and disgusting. You can have the ENTIRE media on your side except one channel and constantly flip out over Fox News. You can have loony, dangerous anti-American Leftist professors ALL over universities in this country and when a professor favors an ideology that you don't agree with, you want to ban and harass him. YOU ARE FILTH. I HATE MY COUNTRY BECAUSE I HAVE TO LIVE WITH YOU TOTALITARIAN LEFTIST DANGEROUS FILTH. YOU DESTROYED EASTERN EUROPE AND NOW YOU'RE COMING FOR US.

Pub, The Huffington Post 20 Comments [11/5/2013 4:06:56 AM]
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