The germ theory of disease is a foolish hoax created by Louis Pasteur. It is a notion of nonsense that has confused millions of people and made billions for the pharmaceuticals with vaccines and tens of thousands of drugs or over-the-counter preparations. If one person in society should die of a “contagious disease,” the whole world population would expire.
Well, what about the flu epidemic shortly after World War I that killed 80 million people worldwide? According to the germ theory of disease, this flu should have killed everyone on earth. Of course, it didn’t and some people died in the same household where others did not. Why did this so-called “infectious disease” not infect the entire world population?
The answer is that disease is born of us and in us. If our immune system is strong and healthy, we could sleep with people dying with “contagious disease” and never even get sick. What a relief this is to know, but how difficult it is to get people to believe!
The germ theory of disease is nothing in the world but a commercial enterprise.
Disease comes from within. When the body is overly fatigued with excess stress, toxins and malnutrition, there is a breakdown of immunity.
A person’s nutritional status and hydration level is the prime determinant of health. Disease comes from within!
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Well first of all germ theory wasn't introduced by Pasteur it was introduced by Robert Koch (Pasteur expanded upon Koch's work).
Secondly Koch didn't just pull germ theory out of the air and expect everyone to go along with it, he set out a number of criteria called Koch's postulates... these postulates have been tested and peer reviewed over more than a century and are still used today,abeit with a few modifications based on new knowledge (molecular Koch's postulates).
If you take an infectious agent and work through each of Koch's postulates you can prove that an infectious disease is derived from an infectious agent and not by spontaneous generation.
Take your quack science and go back to the dark ages.
Well first of all germ theory wasn't introduced by Pasteur it was introduced by Robert Koch (Pasteur expanded upon Koch's work).
Secondly Koch didn't just pull germ theory out of the air and expect everyone to go along with it, he set out a number of criteria called Koch's postulates... these postulates have been tested and peer reviewed over more than a century and are still used today,abeit with a few modifications based on new knowledge (molecular Koch's postulates).
If you take an infectious agent and work through each of Koch's postulates you can prove that an infectious disease is derived from an infectious agent and not by spontaneous generation.
Take your quack science and go back to the dark ages.
If our immune system is strong and healthy, we could sleep with people dying with “contagious disease” and never even get sick.
Sounds like someone is in denial of his secret boyfriend having some horrible, communicable disease.
The so-called Spanish Flu in 1918 contradicts your claims. Most of those who died were strong, healthy and in the prime of their lives. Children and the elderly were most likely to survive. Having an immune system that was strong and healthy was detrimental.
Why? Well, it seems that the Spanish Flu caused an extreme response by the immune system. The stronger your immune system, the stronger it responded. It was actually one's own immune system that was fatal. having a less developed or compromised immune system meant that it responded less, so children and elderly people were more likely to survive.
What the fuck did I see under the microscope, then?
And allow me to find someone with swine flu to cough in your face for about a day and we'll see how you're feeling.
Also: http://whatstheharm.net/vaccinedenial.html
To be fair, stress does affect the body's resistance of germs and bacteria.
On the other hand, Pasteur was an intelligent man who debunked ridiculous ideas with simple experimentation, and germs are not visible to the human eye.
Hmmm! Whoopee for freedom of speech and everything, but I wonder why Bob Livingston wants to make himself sound like a twit? Is it a case of an overactive ego realizing its master/slave is unable to achieve even the common or unremarkable levels of normal comprehension of the ordinary citizen and so resorts to hare-brained and individualistic beliefs of sheer teetering madness in order to deceive itself that it is superior to the common herd?
Ironically, the big ego just makes its host look like a gibbering loony and decidedly inferior.
"Why did this so-called “infectious disease” not infect the entire world population? "
Its called 'genetics' and everyone's is different. A portion of the population is completely immune to any given virus, even things like HIV.
Except for the pesky little fact that we can, you know, actually see these little organisms which cause disease with the aid of a microscope.
This guy sounds like some of the hucksters on late night shortwave radio programs selling snake oil treatments like colloidal silver which are supposed to cure everything from the sniffles to cancer. Of course the evil medical and pharmaceutical community is keeping the real source of disease a total secret so they can sell their phony cures. Unfortunately for the snake oil salesmen, the cures the medical community uses actually work.
Go put your theory to the test. Wrap your mouth around a herpes penis, and hope your immune system is good to go.
Ooh! That's quite a coldsore you have there!
"A portion of the population is completely immune to any given virus, even things like HIV. "
If thats the case hun... then why arent we using these people to cultivate a vaccine to HIV? Just curious... that after all would be a huge step in the right direction for curing the disease.
Woot ! its finally happening !
The idiocy of fundamentalist right-wing spokespersons have become such that they are advocating their followers (who remember, know nothing better than arguments of authority) to take extremely dangerous and highly mortal personal pretenses.
We should encourage these types of guys, and see how Darwin Awards for conservative morons rise like a tidal wave :D
@shockmeshockmeshockmewiththatdeviantbehavior: Because their immunity isn't antibody-driven, but results from a slight change to the receptor on T cells that HIV normally attaches to. This change renders HIV unable to enter their T cells. Which is great and all, but doesn't help to develop a vaccine.
How could you write out an entire post like this without stopping at least part way through the first sentence and saying, "Hey that can't be right because..."
This guy even managed to post it. Bravo. There are no logic filters in your brain at all.
This... This is... A crime against logic. Speaking of the 1918 influenza outbreak, uh, what, did 80 million people independently stop eating their wheaties one morning and die? And if contagion doesn't exist, what the fuck are viruses and how do they reproduce? An entire class of life reproduces by lysing(exploding) the body's cells and in the process causing symptoms and creating more viruses, which ARE SEEN INFECTING OTHER CELLS AND EXPLODING THEM!! Literally, you can SEE THE MOTHERFUCKING DISEASE!! What part of this do you not understand!? How much proof do you require?! Oh, right, proof means diddly fuck-all to you because you maintain a position that has net negative proof, because it's been disproven, and you blithely ignore the fact of Germ Theory, which is pretty much on par with the Theory of Evolution as far as, in scientific terms, "being fucking settled already."
I don't usually find myself agreeing with Führer Adolph Hitler, but people so eye-crossingly stupid shouldn't have the privilege of raising children, considering they have a lower IQ than a child. A child, you can prove something to by showing them. This fucktard manages to stupid himself disbelieving demonstrable fact.
'When the body is overly fatigued with excess stress, toxins and malnutrition, there is a breakdown of immunity. '
Well, he got that right. Sorta. The immune system doesn't break down so much as get compromised.
Wasn't pasteurization originally for beer in Europe? Since then, it's been expanded to other commodities, some unnecessarily, because not all bacteria is 'bad.'
For example, milk contains bacteria and enzymes that are killed in the pasteurization process. Ironically, some milk-lovers have since become 'lactose intolerant' and buy such products as Lactaid, which contains the same substances that were killed off in the pasteurization process.
Just because something is found to be scientifically true in the laboratory doesn't mean it necessarily has broad applications elsewhere.
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