Heaven is for saved people, not good people.
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Good, that means I won't be stuck with assholes like you for all eternity.
P.S. Heaven and Hell aren't real.
I definitely would not want to go there. Heaven, then, would be hell with all the boring, badly educated, and silly people in it.
From the evidence collected on this site, I've concluded that heaven is for 'special' people.
Congrats, RfC, you are clearly very 'special'.
So.
Abortion clinic bomber kills dozens of people, is 'saved' in prison before dying: Heaven!
Charity worker who donates all their time and money to helping the poor, sick, and unfortunate but doesn't believe exactly the way RedforChrist does: Hell!
Something tells me the company in Hell will be better. I don't want to be in your Heaven if it's full of violent, screaming, hysterical fanatics.
Hmmm, tough choice: (a) Be a good person all my life, help others, don't cheat on my wife or my taxes, don't hate anyone or do them harm; or (b) Admit I'm a sinner; be willing repent; Believe that Jesus Christ died for me, was buried, and rose from the dead; and invite Jesus into my life to become my personal Saviour.
Gee. (b)sounds like a whole lot less work, and can be knocked off in a day! No wonder people are inclined to believe in (b) instead of (a).
Well, you people commenting just revealed your deep ignorance of even moderate Christianity. The belief is that every person is so full of sin that no one is good enough for heaven, and that only who are saved (by some form of sloughing sin onto Christ) may enter.
In this case, 'good' and 'saved' are not mutually exclusive. Indeed, 'saved' => 'good', but 'good' !=> 'saved'.
It saddens me that there are large numbers of people unfamiliar with one of the commonest religions in the world. Are you so insular?
Donnelly: "Well, you people commenting just revealed your deep ignorance of even moderate Christianity. The belief is that every person is so full of sin that no one is good enough for heaven ..."
Not every christian has such a dismal, self-loathing view. I know of some Universalists who actually believe in a loving god that will redeem everyone.
If the whole purpose behind fundie christianity is to just be saved and not moral, why are they so damn concerned with homosexuality and what people do in their damn bedrooms.
Also, is this guy saying he's a commie for christ. I've never heard of that before.
So God sends good people to Hell. And how do you define saved, anyways? Living as Jesus would have you? Having a "Jesus is my co-pilot" license plate? Giving all your worldly possessions to the church?
I'm sorry, but if God is any sort of a just God, he would admit by what's in your heart. Even if you're not the bastion of purity and light, if you were trying the best you could to do right by others, that would be what matters. But what do I know, eh?
@[b]Donnelly:
We know Christianity rather well, thank you. Many of us are ex-Christians, and some of us are Christian still.
It's not the "being saved" thing we're mocking; it's the "you can be evil and vile and wicked, but get saved on your deathbed and you get into heaven while Ghandi burns" tripe that makes no sense.
I'd rather believe that deeds have the same weight as either "good" or "evil," regardless of which mythology - if any - one adheres to.
Also, "commonest" is not a word. It's "most common."
Once again we see the moral bankruptcy of sola fides.
If that's heaven, I'll take hell. I'm sure I'll adapt to the flames pretty quickly, and I don't really have anything against demonic sodomy.
Oh, and just for fun, I sometimes like to pronounce "sola fides" as "sola feeds". That way you can say "Sola feeds? In my vagina/asshole?"
You know, like the centipedes thing from 4chan...
Well, I thought it was clever. Tough room.
That's ok, i'm a man for the warmer weather anyway.
Technically, those that survive a natural disaster go to heaven too. You didn't say WHO they have to be saved by.
Well, that's great because before I realized how dumb your religion actually is, I was saved by a priest in front of a whole church filled with people. And you know, once you have the money, they gotta let you in
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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