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Re: Guess Which Race Has the Highest Rate of Sex Trafficking

(Question Diversity)

So who are the traffickers? Is the stereotype of the black pimp based in reality?
This Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) report gives the breakdown:
Percent of all trafficker suspects by race
Blacks 43.7
Hispanics 29.2
Asians 13.2
Whites 12.8
Other 1.2
I’ll assume many of the “others” are American Indians. Of course, we need to adjust for group size. Since whites have the lowest rate, we’ll make them the comparison group. The list below shows how many times a member of a given group is more likely to be a pimp than a white person:
Blacks 16.8
Hispanics 8.1
Asians 16.5
Others 6.0
Compared to whites, blacks are 16.8 times more likely to be pimps. That’s a huge difference, but the difference is actually larger for Asians. (I treated “Other” as Native Americans, but that is probably an inflated number since the category will include non-Natives).
Asians usually have the lowest crime rates (by far) but not here.

Quite a few years ago, in a land far far away (from where I am now), I inadvertently and nonchalantly started up a "how's the weather" conversation with a Bureau of Federal Prisons agent-guard, who was part of the team who had transported a Federal inmate doing time in the Greenville, Illinois Federal prison to the clinic in St. Louis where I happened to be that day for my own doctor's appointment, as the inmate also had a doctor's appointment there. Black, of course. In for sex trafficking Mann Act sort of stuff, as he said.

He told me, in not so many words, and more dog whistling than anything, that the really big problem with these sex trafficking and prostitution rings are from black gangs from big black cities going to the Upper Midwest luring Scandinavian ethnic type white teenage girls with dope, and then hooking them in and taking them back to their big black ghetto cities and forcing them to be come prostitutes.

(Peter Hunt)

akistan is a nation that's located in South Asia. Pakistani, Indian, Chinese, and ALL other Asian groups contribute to the ruining of Canada and other Western countries.

I actually thought it would be Hispanics.

I had Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, and Thais in mind with Han Chinese as leaders of the pack.

Ask any honest and completely aware thinker who lives in China or Taiwan or Japan or South Korea about all categories if crime. Murders might be the only one in which Whites lead any one of the aforelisted East Asian nations. Substance abuse is rife! Meth, alcohol, Nicotine, and pharmaceuticals (easy-peasy to score in the Republic of Korea, China and Taiwan) are abused by way more folks than in the States, and those 3 countries respective guys don't admit anywhere near the true extent of how much if their respective oops are addicts.

(JTK)

Sex trafficking, almost exclusively, appears in dangerous neighborhoods, which are populated by Blacks or immigrants from different cultures.
Observations and personal experience quickly can confirm statistics like this. In the 1980s, I lived in Brooklyn for a few years, where I was robbed five times, twice with a gun pointed at me. Somebody vandalized my car every few months. At nights one could see a lot of girls on the streets offering sex for money. Now I live far away from NYC. Nothing happened to me or my property ever since. I can walk my dog safely, even on Saturday nighs. My car is usually unlocked unless I am away for multiple days.

Sounds like you resided in Rodney Dangerfield's neighborhood. He said that when he first moved there he stepped outside and asked a cop "How long does it take to get to the subway from here." The cop replied "I don't know. No one has ever made it."

After I graduated, I moved out of there as soon as I could. They offered me a much higher salary in NYC. I didn't take it. In retrospective, I believe, this was the best decision I ever made.

(Big Al)

We can tsk-tsk all we want, but there's been a study done on US pimps. And you know how much some of them make a WEEK? $30,000! Take that, Walmart middle manager! That's how huge the market is. And not only that, pimping is one of the safest career crime choices, as they're much less likely to be caught and arrested than drug dealers, and much more likely to reach arrangements with crooked cops so long as they keep it discrete and informal.

I once took a training course in Canada. The speaker, Timea Nagy, told a heartbreaking story of being trafficked in Canada by way of Hungary. She never said so, but I believe her traffickers were Hungarian Gypsies. Later in one of the trainings, we were told to look out for older black men with younger white girls. That was generally the trafficking pattern. One of the organizations the police were going after was called "North Preston's Finest". They even have their own wikipedia page. The Canadians can thank the underground railroad for those wonderful additions to diversity.
Because the drinking age in Canada is 18, a lot of young women go clubbing across in Niagara Falls, Ontario. Lots of these young adult females were getting slipped roofies. We were told off the record that the police couldn't say so, but it was almost all East Asians (Pakistanis) doping the victims.

Once upon a time, we used to put some blame on prostitutes along with their pimps. Now we find every excuse in the book for a woman who chooses this career path. We don't call it prostitution anymore; we call it "trafficking". That's because we refuse to look at it straight and recognize for what it is: a lot of women are whores, and most of those get in there WILLINGLY. Whether from country to country, or within the one country. The whole roofie thing is the exception rather than the rule. It's plain old prostitution. Just read the details of those stories about those minor English girls. There were no roofies. They were in for the gifts, for the excitement, for the male attention, and the easy cash.

Part of the reason that prostitutes stay in the game is the feeling of shame and humiliation for having been duped. They get threatened with having their lives exposed to family and loved ones. Of course, there's often beatings, too. They often feel like it's their fault. In turn, the pimps often prey on the vulnerable, ie the young, the homeless, the mentally challenged etc...

Really, there's no way they could go to the police just so that their parents don't hear about it? Sounds like a stretch to me. This isn't the Congo jungle. If someone is really forcing you to do something, call 911. And they'll come and take him away. It's not that hard.

By the way, that's also the bull feminists bring up to explain women who stay with supposedly abusive husbands and so on. They could never bring themselves to admit that there's a part of willingness from the woman in question, so they make up a lot of implausible scenarios about how they can't leave.

So what's your solution, that we just let sex trafficking take place and look the other way?

First of all, it's prostitution. And second, of course not! I'm for jailing the whole of them, PROSTITUTES INCLUDED. Let them rot in jail. I'm also for a ban of the entire sex trades (prostitution too, don't fool yourselves) in whatever form they take: porn, stripping, cam shows, the whole of them. I don't even like cheerleaders. But punish the whores too! I'm sick of this "compassionate" culture where no one ever takes responsibility for anything. For the vast majority of the time, they get in there willingly. Everybody who's ever gotten close to those trades knows it.

Fooling aside, if you want to campaign for such restrictive laws on people's lives, please stick to your city or state governments.

Don't worry, I'm a federalist. And these should be state and local matters. And even if I wanted to, last year, the people of some Nevada counties had a referendum on whether to keep their brothels open, and something like 80 percent voted "Yes." So I have no hope for these people. I just don't want to live around them. So I'm well aware it's hard to enforce on 330 million anyway. But yes, I'd welcome such restrictions in the city or state I live in, and the SCOTUS better mind its damn business with its farce of putting pornography under the First Amendment.

Watch the people in your state flee to greener pastures en masse once you start enforcing your puritanical morals and suck the juice out of life as a result.

Many would flee, but many of the likeminded would flock in their stead. That's the whole point.

Re: Because your degree matters more to women then your personality apparently.

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A Good Man Is Getting Even Harder to Find

Women with college degrees outnumber men by a significant margin. That means trouble for the future of love and relationships, writes Gerard Baker.

(wazzoz99)

I remember a few years ago, if anyone ever discussed the “hypergamy” question in the context of the earnings gaps and why it’s sometimes necessary on public forums , you would have immediately gotten the misogynist or even the incel label, for suggesting that men must outearn women for a rational reason. Now, as more empowered progressive women ironically complain about men not meeting traditional and sexist expectations, hypergamy is no longer a taboo topic to discuss. Although it’s important to note that no one in the liberal feminist leaning media has mentioned the term hypergamy to describes this phenomena, owing to its problematic links to the manosphere and Redpill philosophy.

Anyway, observing a lot of the so called progressive women who are reaching their early 30s being incredibly vocal about this issue tells me that eventually, we will have a neofeminist/neotraditionalist/5th wave feminist movement that will attempt to address the problems of modern women, one of which is the inability of men to outearn women. This movement will call on men to tolerate women expanding their gender roles and transcending gendered expectations whilst simultaneously calling on men to fulfil their gender roles and expectations for the good of women/western birth rates/marriage rates. And society will condone this inconsistent movement because prioritising female happiness above all else has become a western secular religion. I wonder if future generations of men will comply or will they stand up against hypocrisy and call out women?

(FastFourierTerraform)

Yeah, but not because of the women.
This men unmarried men means that any major problem will shatter our society like a hammer. Women won't be there when the shit hits the fan. And men with no families will prioritize themselves over society--as will literally every single woman.
That's assuming these men don't simply choose to tear civilization down.

We're doing a pretty good job of it right now. This is classic Jordan Peterson. It's incredibly dangerous for society to put so many men in such a shitty position. Even if most of them just wither and die in silence, there's a minority that will lash out, and that has the potential to topple society.

(reKSanity)

This is what happens when liberal schools make it easier for girls to succeed and harder for boys...I’m glad I have a daughter, i can’t imagine having a 14 year old son today.

I’m 34 and married maybe I’m lucky. It seems women want men who:

are older

taller

smarter - higher education

make more money than them

That will be a problem if schools are still making it harder for boys to succeed...girls will need to lower their standard because the only boys who will look at them soon will be beta male feminists...ugh...

(whynotbothey)

A good man means a man with a degree, but he should also be the one cooking in the house because women no longer cook at all, since being in a kitchen as a person with a vagina is very awful and demeaning. one who should shut the fuck up and stand back and never talk back and never, under any circumstance, stand up for his rights, one who should expect his woman to go around and talk about how they have sex and how big his dick is because it’s his body, her friends’ subject of discussion.

Also, you should never address the issue of whether you and your woman are a bit too overweight and should solve it because that means you are controlling her body and shaming her. Maybe cut down on drinking that beer in the evening because you’re a drunk and men who drink are rapists 100%.

And maybe never tell a girl she’s beautiful because that means you’re a creep. Don’t tell her you’re not interested in her either because then you’re a dick. Basically don’t breathe next to them at all because who does that to women?

Fucking hell, I’ve seen way too many posts about relationships lately on reddit and I must say I want to put bleach in my eyes. And i’m a girl.

“Girl, he asked for your number?! That piece of creeping shit!!!”

Now it’s about degrees. Because that was a thing I gave a shit about when I met my man.

But you know, on one hand, it’s good if this type of woman ignores men like these. Dodging a bullet.

(ludwigvonmisess)

Isn't this just biology though? Women are driven by their nature to seek out a mate that has the most resources and highest possible social status, a college degree is one of the main ways you'd gauge that in our society.

Yes, obviously. But feminists claim gender is a social construct and men and women are the same. Further, when men out earn women, they claim to be oppressed. And now that women out earn men, it’s men’s fault there aren’t any good partners.

... are you just trolling or did you legitimately not understand the reason this was posted here?

(The_toast_of_Reddit)

I see a reset where having a high school sweetheart will be in more of a demand than a degree holder. I'm talking about a really dependable man who cares about how his lady is feeling.

Degrees are becoming the next taxi medallion. The car is now worth more than the medallion. There are a lot of nice men who're debt free & working the trades. If there was a college debt reset I could see a flow of woman that want to snag up one of those nice men because they no longer have to worry about debt because at that stage in their life they're looking to settle down.

Basically women in the near future will demand a hallmark channel movie and not a degree.

(dongkong01)

I'm gonna get me a 20 year old village girl when I'm ready to get married (in my home country) . Cos the difference between her at 20 without degree and 23 with degree, is the loss of skin elasticity. Probably the hardest thing to hear for carousel riders

(Hirudin)

Women have outnumbered men in higher education since 1983. It's been a long time since gender-specific education programs have been justified.

Currently, the imbalance in favor of women is greater than the imbalance in favor of men that inspired the passage of Title IX, but the pile of government-sponsored educational freebies for women only just keeps getting bigger.

(Svenskbtch)

We often hear that men feel intimidated by strong - in this context read: better educated or higher earning - women.

To me, this seems like one of those things that most of us believe, but for which there is not by far as much anecdotal or empirical evidence as we would expect.

Rather, from the little I have observed, the problem is more that it is difficult for women to respect lesser earning or lesser educated men. In fact, many of my female friends admit something like this openly. And this appears to be not so much because they are concerned about financial stability (most of them are high-earners in their own right), but rather some kind of deeper, evolutionary drive. In fact, in most of the scarce instances of couples where women are better educated that I know, I sometimes observe a disturbing tendency towards condescension among women. Not because my friends are bad people, but because it frustrates them.

True, better educated men may also be condescending, but the dynamics are different and the effects often innocuous.

The only true exception to this that I know are good friends where she is a specialised surgeon and he a photographer and part-time house husband. She makes a multiple of what he does and runs the household finances. I am not sure how they manage to overcome these instincts, but one idea comes to mind: he is a brilliant photographer, close to the top of his field - the issue is only that it pays much less than hers. So maybe that is why she is able to respect him?

I would love to hear about your anecdotes on this.

(mrmensplights)

also possible that not all guys are secure enough to date girls with higher education or career

I can't believe this kinda thing get's taken seriously. You can bet any argument based on "Men are just insecure" or "Men are just toxic" or "Men are just weak" can always be traced back to anti-male sources. There was never any evidence to back up that claim. It's just feels.

In fact, it's not just feels but projection. Many studies have been done that prove men will marry up or marry down. However, women are hypergamous and have a strong preference for 'marrying up'. Their own behavior mixed with the advantages society bestows upon them has lead to fewer men they prefer to be available. It has nothing to do with men being insecure or male behavior at all. Men are rational actors in the sexual market place. Why in wouldn't men marry up and improve their quality of life? In fact, now that women vastly outnumber men as graduates of universities you see exactly this happening:

Partnership shift. Men are now more likely to marry up

A Record Share of Men Are “Marrying Up” Educationally

Women's progress boosts men who 'marry up,' study says

Men Are Now More Likely Than Women to “Marry Up”

More Men Than Women Are "Marrying Up", A New Study Finds

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