[As near as I can tell, he's attempting to disprove global warming.]
Okay, I just did an experiment. I have a box of CO2 in my house (the kitchen fire extinguisher), and I also have a box of non CO2 (a jar full of air).
So I put them both in the oven and heated them to 200 degrees. (F).
Holy shit, they both had the same temperature. My candy thermometer reported that they were exactly the same as the oven temp.
So, please refrain from talking about climate change. You to can do this experiment.
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You lie. Putting a fire extinguisher in the oven would likely cause an explosion. Even if 200 isn't enough to do that, you did NOT stick a candy thermometer into a fire extinguisher.
You also have no understanding at all what global warming is or how it works. People like you need to be laughed at in the public square.
It's not a troll. I used to frequent the NS forums, Lacadaemon is a regular poster that, as far as I can tell, argues what he/she honestly believes.
You put a fire extinguisher in the oven at 200 degrees? What phenomenon are you trying to replicate here -- the Big Bang?!?
Seriously, whether troll or not, it's obvious he's lying to make a point. It's just a really pathetic lie; and even if he really were to do it, it completely fails to make the point he thinks it does. The whole experiment, even as a concept, is totally idiotic.
~David D.G.
MK - Exactly. This guy is a lying sack of shit.
That being said, Lacadaemon, perhaps you could show that hair spray doesn't contribute to global warming by putting a couple dozen cans of it in your oven and heating them to 400 degrees. You should lean against the oven door to make sure it is tightly closed. Put a candy thermometer up your ass to see if YOU reach 400 degrees.
I sincerely doubt that you did this, and I'm pretty sure that if you add the same amount of calories to equal ammounts of two different materials, they will end with different temperatures.
Even if global warming was somehow related to this, you should have added the same amount of heat, not add heat until they reach a certain temperature. Because, given your description of your experiment, the only thing you proved is that if you heat something up to a certain temperature, it will be at that temperature.
Hint: Global warming is caused by CO2 and other gases that stop heat from the sun leaving the planet, so your experiment does not apply.
Experiment title: The domestic oven and fire extinguisher as a model system for climate change.
Author: Lacadaemon
Peer reviewer: Anonymous
Peer reviewer comments: I have some doubts about this paper, particularly the validity of the domestic oven/ fire extinguisher system as a model for the effect of atmospheric carbon dioxide on climate. There is only one precise scientific expression I can think of to adequately describe this - WTF?
Also, I had a graduate student repeat the experiment and was unable to reproduce the results as described by the author.
Suggest you return the paper to the author for correction, or preferably recycling into biofuel since it's full of manure - sure to produce enough methane to supply a small town.
PS - A graduate student position has recently become available. Please contact me if you know of anyone who is interested.
even if he didn't do it, even if he didn't blow himself up, he's still an idiot...
"wow, I heat up two objects to X degrees, and they're both X degrees!"
God fucking DAMNIT! God fucking damnit all to fucking hell god damn retarded fucking fuckery god damn FUCKING SHIST EWAPOTLR>SNØtglm4 wøv76klwz 4ynjmu7h
fucking hell man, god fucking damnit. Its shit like this that makes it so fucking hard to remember that not ALL religious people are as fucking retarded as this one.
Obvious lie is obvious.
1) The CO2 would never reach 200f before exploding.
2) You can't stick a thermometer into a fire extinguisher or a jar of "air," whatever it may be composed of.
Also:
3) 200f = 200f. So what?
4) You are confused about CO2's role in climate change. I'm sure (at least, I hope) you've heard of the "greenhouse effect." CO2 isn't the air inside the greenhouse. It's the greenhouse itself, and we all know that air is hotter inside a greenhouse than outside.
If you actually did that experiment you would destroy your house. Or at least your kitchen. Idiot.
Also, yes if you heat two objects to 200 degrees they will both be 200 degrees.
Also, look up how the greenhouse effect actually works before you try to disprove it.
Marie Curie could win two Nobel Prizes for two completely different discoveries. Yet a fundie has never won one to date.
MIT can breathe a sigh of relief this day. It's own pure research isn't threatened by this form of 'science'.
...and no, I don't want fries with that, Mr... (*looks at name badge *)
...Lacadaisical. X3
Anyone who puts a fire extinguisher in an oven should not be allowed to breathe. Not that I actually believe one word of this baloney, because if he had actually done this "experiment" he would have been rudely introduced to a whole new kind of Big Bang, but the fact that he even thought up this stupid story is bad enough.
So you claim you did an idiotic "experiment" and now you think you're the Albert Einstein of climate science? You claim you've eliminated every other possibility (including the one that says you're a fucking moron talking out his ass) and have used your "intuition" to come up with the single correct answer, the one that says climate change is not occurring?
I'd say that is about as accurate as throwing a rock at the moon, watching it fall back to earth, and saying, "See? Damn NASA idiots could never send anything to the moon. Space travel is impossible. Please refrain from talking about space travel. You to can do this experiment."
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