[Thread topic: The process of intelligent design]
God gave earth a dinosaur period so that we could have oil, gasoline, and polymer hydrocarbons for plastics in the 21st century. If you look at the incredible properties of oil, you whould know God was thinking, "Now how do I get the most energy in the smallest possible density with out them having to know quantum mechanics". You know, oil comes from dead dinosaurs. That was their purpose.
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Yes, what all powerful being wouldn't murder millions of creatures so you could drive a car? I mean, that *has* to be the best solution out there, right?
"Now how do I get the most energy in the smallest possible density with out them having to know quantum mechanics"
Deuterium, anyone?
And why not include hints as to how to polymerise ethylene in the Bible, perhaps?
And then I look at the incredible properties of ptomaine, malaria, brain cancer and jock-itch, and I know that God doesn't exist.
P.S. Oil can come from almost any organic matter, not just dinosaurs.
The problem with your argument is that it shows that God's not that capable of foresight. Oil was only usable after we learned how to properly refine it (circa mid 1800's), and now it turns out that burning all the oil is polluting the environment. Even if you think global warming is a hoax you have to admit this is not natural sky.
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Furthermore oil is not renewable. As you pointed out oil can only come from long dead organic matter. Not dinosaurs but plants and algae, which is why we find oil under the ocean as well as on land. And you have to admit that once we use up all the oil it's gone and there's no way to make more. Now you can argue that the current peak oil predictions are wrong, but you'll have to show us your peak oil predictions and explain why yours is right.
So if God was truly so wise and great why did he not bestow us with an energy that was clean burning, easy to use, renewable, and give us specific instructions of how to use it in the Bible?
And when the climate goes to shit, and the ants become the dominant species:
"God gave earth a human period so that we could have oil, gasoline, and polymer hydrocarbons for plastics in the 31st century. If you look at the incredible properties of oil, you whould know God was thinking, "Now how do I get the most energy in the smallest possible density with out them having to know quantum mechanics". You know, oil comes from dead humans. That was their purpose."
pssst...petroleum and petroleum products were invented and used before the 21st Century.
You're eight years old, aren't you?
Actually, Collin, God created dinosaurs so we would have oil, and civilization would evolve just so, all so that I could eventually call you a MORON!!
So please take this advice, you are a MORON, after all the whole point of the universe and existence is so that you could be told this. And if you don't believe me, it means all those dinosaurs died fer NUTHIN. And really, now that you've been told, it makes life seem pretty pointless, there's nothing left to do. Even the Rapture will be an anticlimax.
Edit : true enough, oil doesn't come from dinosaurs. I think he got that disinformation from Airplane, the movie. But the PURPOSE of dinosaurs was still so I could call Collin a moron.
So... why couldn't he just have created oil?
Oh. Right. God and logic are like, well, water and oil.
So our purpose is to ruin the planet for a future race of pollution-needing fools?
Kinda ruins the "greater point to life, rulers of Earth thing" you had goin'
In a sense you're right. None of that Goddidit shit matters at all, but dinosaurs contributed to us mostly in what their decomposed bodies produced. It's not exactly divine because had humans been around just as long (assuming technology advanced at the same time it did rather than earlier) it would have had teh same effect. We'd be burning the long dead remains of humans rather than dinosaurs (and actually mostly pre-historic plant life). Also, God being brilliant and all, why didn;t he just instill the knowledge of quantum mechanics in us and save himself the hassle of making dinosaurs and millions of years of preparation for us to destroy his planet? He could just as easily have given us the knowledge to build reliable hydrogen based vehicles if that was his intention.
Why didn't it occur to this all-knowing, all-powerful god thingy to just zap sufficient supplies of oil (or, better yet, a non-polluting fuel) into creation instantly instead of going through this dino-based rigamarole for countless eons? Most not really be all that bright, or powerful ... or existant.
Did God fail his basic Quantum Physics course.
Not much of a god, probably too busy playing dice rather than studying.
How do you know god isn't just using us in turn to generate lots of radioactive fission waste that some new form of life will use to fuel their equivalent of hummers millions of years from now?
There, you see now what happens when you just start pulling wild assertions out of your ass to try and make reality fit better with your childish delusions?
There are other energy sources aside from fossil fuels. Not having fossil fuels might have arguably been better, as we would have skipped to less polluting technologies. As is, a lot of good tech was ignored for a long time due to us already having fossil fuel engines, and is only being looked at now due to the sudden realization that our present tech might be making us and the environment sick.
But the bible says dinosaurs never existed! He's a liar! Just look at answers-in-genesis, it's a proven fact!
Or maybe these guys can't get their damn story straight ;)
Why would God want us to pollute our planet? If he's omnipotent, why couldn't he invent some burning fuel like natural gas that burns well and doesn't pollute that much and fill our planet with that?
BTW, oil was formed from plankton and algae, not dinosaurs
Or perhaps their purpose is to provide CO2 to warm the Earth prior to a nuclear winter from a limited nuclear exchange.
Or maybe it was to provide the sight of entertaining animals for the Creator.
Or maybe it was to provide evidence of God's use of evolution.
Tell me, what basis do you use to justify your opinion? Or did you, as I suspect, just pull it out of your arse?
In that case, God is a real dumbass.
Why go through all the hassle of creating the dinosaurs and letting them live for millions of years, just so you can have a little oil when you kill them off? Why not just create the oil right away?
"so that we could have oil, gasoline, and polymer hydrocarbons for plastics in the 21st century."
Nevermind the fact that those things were used during the 20th century.
Most oil derives from kerogens.
Kerogens are made up largely of the decomposing remains of marine plants and microscopic organisms.
Dinosaurs didn't have much to do with it.
a. If God had to wonder the answer to a question (any question), then it means for a fraction of time, he didn't have the answer, and if he didn't have the answer then (at least until that time) he wasn't omniscient, and if he wasn't omniscient...
b. Before we got to quantum physics, we had nuclear physics, and in nuclear physics we study this thing called the atom which holds a lot more energy than your average exothermic chemical reaction.
c. "Density" isn't small or large; it's either high or low.
If I were, you know, omnipotent, I think I could figure out a much better way to provide our energy needs.
Besides, just because they are called "fossil" fuels doesn't mean they come from fossils. They actually come from dead plants. Also, that kind of energy sucks.
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