I was a self-described Liberal until I was saved. Afterward God began to dismantle the societal brainwashing that had skewed my moral compass my entire adult life. It was painful and shameful to see the godless worldview I had proudly espoused for so long.
So to bluntly answer the OP question: liberalism results from the absence of biblical truth in one's life.
btw, don't allow the moral relativists on this thread or anywhere else to tell you the definition of liberalism is a matter of personal opinion. It's a black & white issue.
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Hmm, from her other posts this woman seems like the real deal, definitely fundie. I don't believe she was ever a liberal though.
Its only a good quote because I'm convinced she's Lying for Jesus. But is it enough to approve it? Not sure. Am I over-thinking it? Most likely.
"liberalism results from the absence of biblical truth in one's life."
And you say you were once a Liberal? Lying for Jebus. Contrary to Fundie belief, Liberal Christians DO exist, ya know.
So to bluntly answer the OP question: liberalism results from the absence of biblical truth in one's life
Actually, the same thing can be said about conservatism. Although, from my years and years as a conservative xtian, I'd have to say that the liberals are closer to godliness than the conservatives are.
So, in other words, you traded in your common sense for a book of bullshit. That doesn't sound like a good deal, unless of course you're a moron. Gee, fancy that, eh?
This guy's going to have an anyeurism when he finds out that Thomas Jefferson described himself as "liberal".
(Of course, the word doesn't mean today what it meant in the 1700s, but Fundies don't seem to be aware that the meaning of a word can change with time, as evidenced by their bizarre interpretation of some KJV passages.)
"Liberalism results from the absence of bblical truth in one's life."
Actually, if you've actually read Jesus's comments on social issues, like caring for the poor and the sick, and the death penalty, for example, exactly the opposite is true. You people pretty much oppose everything he stood for.
I was a self-described Liberal ... don't allow the moral relativists on this thread or anywhere else to tell you the definition of liberalism is a matter of personal opinion.
Let Barb tell you all about it.
"I was a self-described"
Liberal
Pagan
Wiccan
Satanist
High Priest
Gay
Lesbian
Catholic
Jehovah's Witness
Seventh Day Adventist
Presbyterian
Lutheran
Vegetarian
Democrat
Independent
Gang Banger
Drug Addict
Alcoholic
Fetishist
Furry
Submissive
And then TEH LORD saveded me!
You name it, someone on RR "came out of it".
when did liberals become interchangeable with sinner, athiest, satanist, ect. again? I can't even remember anymore...
who's the next great enemy of god? chefs? mailmen? anyone living in a house with the number 5?
"Afterward God began to dismantle the societal brainwashing that had skewed my moral compass my entire adult life. "
And allowed you to be brainwashed by other ideals that skew your moral compass. Congrads.
"don't allow the moral relativists on this thread"
Hahhahhahahhahahahhhaha!
As if the mighty ban hammers of RR would allow a moral relativist on their boards!
You know, you really don't have to have been something to understand or debunk their viewpoint so these kinds of appeals are only mildly convincing at best and obvious lies at worst. I mean one can study and talk with real, honest members of a demographic to understand their views. So long as you remember to talk to at least 10 wholly separated members of that group to make sure you didn't get the wrong impression from one or two jerks/bad examples.
Also if this is not total BS, then she may have been mildly liberal at best. I mean the American "Liberals" are almost conservatives compared to other countries.
Also @ John in Oz: Lol, yeah I've always loved that for as long as I've been alive our Conservative party is called the Liberal party! (our more liberal party is called the Labor (sic) Party). Although when I did a little history I found out that the two parties have swapped places a few times in terms of policy. lol.
I'm pretty sure your version of 'self-described Liberal' doesn't equal what most true Liberals really are and what they believe. I have to agree with whoever said you must've forgotten to hate people for five minutes.
Dio Fa: Wow. I didn't notice that until you said something. I'm kind of digging the red-to-grey change, too.
I used to go to Sunday School, go to church, and read the Bible.
And then I grew up.
Maybe living in the UK, where we basically don't give a toss about religion as much as you lot do over the pond, we do things the right way round. But then, whenever we see ranting street preachers (the UK's nearest equivalent of Pat Robertson, et al), we just ignore them or point & laugh. Perhaps it's our sense of cynicism, irony & ability to question everything (VERY healthy British attitudes) that prevents any of you fundy nutty buggers ever getting a toehold over here, certainly in politics (no GOP here; openly being a fundy - even in the Conservative Party - is a sure-fire vote-killer).
Thank God I'm an Atheist!
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PS: Barb T: That's not a moral compass you have there, it's more like a weather vane.
"btw, don't allow the moral relativists on this thread or anywhere else to tell you the definition of liberalism is a matter of personal opinion"
Why not, is it so easy to tie you home schooled knob heads in knots?
I was a self-described Conservative until I was saved. Afterward God began to dismantle the societal brainwashing that had skewed my moral compass my entire adult life. It was painful and shameful to see the godless worldview I had proudly espoused for so long.
So to bluntly answer the OP question: conservatism results from the absence of biblical truth in one's life.
btw, don't allow the moralists on this thread or anywhere else to tell you the definition of conservatism is a matter of personal opinion. There's a lot of grey area.
That entire thread is, um, interesting to say the least. Poor Babyruth had the best handle on the topic at hand, I'd say.
"btw, don't allow the moral relativists on this thread or anywhere else to tell you the definition of liberalism is a matter of personal opinion. It's a black & white issue."
... GUH. Dood, you guys say the word "liberal" so many damn times, you just want to brainwash everyone into thinking your definition is the "actual definition" of liberalism.
Guess what. It's not. You botched the whole meaning of it.
Moreover, the world does NOT operate in blacks and whites.
Noooo, you don't want to be like that pussy Jesus, surely.
Go Old Testament God, go!
So biblical truth results in the loss of women's rights, the turning of gays into second class citizens, tax cuts for the rich, cutting off support for the poor, and paranoid fantasies of arresting people for badthink?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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