Paganism looks funny from the perspective of the post-Christian, who has the benefit of more than a thousand years of Christian civilization. It's not quite so funny if you happen to be sufficiently well-educated about historical paganism; there is a reason why "the Dark Ages" historically refers to the time before the coming of Jesus Christ, The Light of the World.
(The so-called "Enlightenment", like all Satanic inspirations, is nothing more than a cheap and perverted knock-off of the original concept.)
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Actually, no. The Pagans were doing just fine without you.
The 'Dark Ages' refers to the period in history when christianity was spreading across Europe like a cancer. It was a blight that brought widespread 'Satanic Panic', Witch hunts, torture, extortion and corruption while christianity settled into it's newfound power as law.
Kill them all, for the lord will know his own hardly sounds enlightened to any human being with even a hint of decency.
- Christianity was here way before the Dark Ages, in fact one could argue that they helped make this period much MUCH worse
The Dark Ages refer to a time when the church had control of civilization and suppressed anything it felt was heretical. It had fuck-all to do with being "the light of the world". I knew you were staggeringly ignorant, Vox, but surely you should know better than this.
Paganism looks funny from the perspective of the post-Christian, who has the perspective of more than a thousand years of Christian fanaticism .
Fixed.
And the "Dark Ages" were the age of paganism? When the entire Empire became Christian and fell to foreign invaders, most of whom later became Christian? Why does anyone take this clown seriously?
(Plus, historians don't use "Dark Ages" anymore; it's "Early Medieval period". History still happened between the fall of the Empire and the reign of Charlemagne.)
What fmitchell said. It's only 'dark' in the sense that we can't 'see' very much of it, due to a lack of written sources.
Today, most of India and Japan are 'pagan'. Doing badly, they are not.
"there is a reason why "the Dark Ages" historically refers to the time before the coming of Jesus Christ, The Light of the World."
Michelangelo was the second coming of Jesus Christ?
Vox, you aren't the first person that I would like to hit with a history book and you won't be the last, but damn it if you aren't the one I want to hit the hardest.
@fmitchell: AFAIK they still do, though now the term is used for any period of time were historical records are few.
Technically, Britain in the Dark Ages was better off than under Rome...
...because Rome had disgusting personal habits, and a Roman bath was also an unofficial cistern, thus resulting in the common man going "EWWWW!" when thinking the word "bath".
Everything else the commenters have said is true, though. I'd rather be free and dead than alive and enslaved.
...Not that that didn't happen in Rome, it just pretty much a default state of being in the Dark Ages.
there is a reason why "the Dark Ages" historically refers to the time before the coming of Jesus Christ, The Light of the World.
Wow. Fail. I won't bother repeating what almost all of the comments above have already said.
However, a common mistake made on this site and in most of the comments above has to do with the "dark" in "dark ages". The term "dark" has only to do with the near complete absence of written records from that period. It has *absolutely nothing* to do with the quality of life at that time. It's a term dealing only with historical data.
The "dark ages" were actually a very vibrant time and when the curtain of documentation is lifted, Europe was a totally different place than what it was after the end of the Roman Empire (ca. 700BC).
I'm actually kind of impressed by this statement. Don't get me wrong, it's still incredibly stupid. But at least it's just stupid. Typically, Vox Day is both incredibly stupid and astonishingly bigoted. So being just incredibly stupid is really a step up for Vox.
Of course, as Vox Day will happily tell you, he is not a naturally stupid person. He's boasted about being a member of Mensa in the past. I get the impression that Vox Day had the potential to actually be a very intelligent person. But, evidently, he's completely squandered that potential, in favor of saying the most stupid things that he possibly can, mostly so that he can insist that he and people like him (i.e. white, cisgender, straight, male, right-wing Christians) are inherently better than everyone else while rationalizing his hatred of everyone else.
It's quite sad, really.
.."the Dark Ages" historically refers to the time before the coming of Jesus Christ, The Light of the World.
No, "Dark Ages" (a discreditated appelation) refers to the time after the birth of the Christianism and the collapse of the Roman Empire and its system of laws, culture, technology and writing, mostly created when paganism was domining.
(The so-called "Enlightenment", like all Satanic inspirations, is nothing more than a cheap and perverted knock-off of the original concept.)
Again no, the Enlightenment refers to the time where the European culture freed itself from the religious chains and put the reason in the center of the intellectual life instead of faith.
Learn better your history, Vox Day.
As someone who mocks all religions pretty much equally, I have to say that paganism doesn't look any funnier than Christianity does.
I've got nothing to add that hasn't already been said about the dark ages comment.
In 1054 a supernova lit the skies. It was so bright it was visible in daylight for several days. The Chinese and Arabic scholars of the day recorded it, but not Europeans even though it was visible all across Europe. 1054 was well in the "Dark Ages " when the church controlled all of Europe. An age is not called Dark because the light does not shine, but because men refuse to see it.
It's not quite so funny if you happen to be sufficiently well-educated about historical paganism
So you must find it hilarious, then.
Actually, the so-called "Pax Romana", thought to be the golden age of Rome, was back in the pagan days before Christianity became the official religion under Constantine.
Friend, the term 'dark ages' was used to delineate the period after the fall of rome (the extinguishing of the 'light of rome')to the beginning of the enlightenment. You really should read Petrarch. Since the official religion of the empire was christianity, the description applied to the period while not entirely correct (there were significant accomplishments during the late middle ages) is somewhat apt in the light of the neocon luddites of todays sect of fundie xians. Now tell us, are you really this dense or are you just jerking off?
"there is a reason why "the Dark Ages" historically refers to the time before the coming of Jesus Christ, The Light of the World."
Except that the term 'Dark Ages' ACTUALLY refers to the period from the 6th to the 13th century after the fall of Rome. A time when much of Europe was ruled by theology and ignorance was the law of the land. This includes the period of the Crusades, just a fun fact.
Question: if you find paganism ridiculous, why don't you have any pagan quotes here?
Oh that's right, because your parents are Christians, right, teenagers?
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