On the Ken Ham/Bill Nye 'Creationism debate':
Evolution has NOTHING to do with critical thinking, applying concepts and formulas or problem solving. NOTHING.
Evolution = theory of origins from a godless perspective
Biblical Creation = God's revelation how it really went down
It's that simple...sign me up to debate the next guy, I'll just give em the Glorious Gospel of our Lord Jesus.
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Debate = a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward and which usually ends with a vote.
Fundie 'Debate' = Inane prattle where victory is claimed by the fundie regardless of any points made, disputed or refuted.
Where's the critical thinking in "God's revelation how it really went down"? That's just blind obedience.
A debate is a give and take, dearie; you must be prepared to listen to and respect what the other person is saying, or it just end up in a shouting match.
It's that simple...sign me up to debate the next guy, I'll just give em the Glorious Gospel of our Lord Jesus.
Yes, because that is a valid refutation of a scientific theory that has been tested, time and time again, and has tons of evidence to back it up. /Sarcasm.
evolution, critical thinking, application, concept, formula, problem solving, God, revelation, debate, Gospel.
I'm not really sure you know what any of those words means.
"It's that simple...sign me up to debate the next guy, I'll just give em the Glorious Gospel of our Lord Jesus."
Quoting Green Eggs and Ham would be just as effective as quoting the Gospels when it comes to debating with someone who is bringing actual knowledge to the table.
Just admit it: because science is both a mechanism for explaining natural phenomena (which makes it, at best, agnostic about anything supernatural), and can be complicated, messy, and just plain hard , you don't like science.
sign me up to debate the next guy, I'll just give em the Glorious Gospel of our Lord Jesus.
Isn't that basically all Ken Ham did? When are fundies going to learn that preaching the bible is not science?
Absolutely correct. Evolution has nothing to do with critical thinking; it is rather a method by which the various species originated. Of course, your wild assertion about Jeebus has nothing to do with logic or critical thinking either. That part of your posting is complete and utter horse shit.
And I would pay hard, cash money to watch Bill Nye reduce you to chop meat.
The thrilling sound of ones own voice as it warbles and trills inanely about nothing in particular save vacuous fairy tales. The uplifting confirmation of ones own specialness as ones voice pompously pontificates about what someone said is in the Bible. The glaring inadequacies of moronic chatter therefore Bible God and magic and auto-tail-wagging gullibility.
Yes, it really is that simple.
It isn't that simple, or at least it wouldn't be that simple. You'd sure as hell look simple, though, going up against Bill Nye. Shit, he ran circles around ol' Ken and that kid is way better at spinning bullshit than you are.
Evolution = theory of origins from a godless perspective
Gravity = theory of stuff falling from a godless perspective
Lightning = theory of static electricity from a godless perspective
The Plague = theory of germs from a godless perspective
There's nothing "godless" about assuming the existence of natural forces. Even the most devout don't actually believe God does everything like a puppeteer.
I'd rather debate a five-year old. At least the child would have an excuse for babbling on and on, and not comprehending anything else that was said.
"Biblical Creation = God's revelation how it really went down"
"And how do you know it's God's revelation?"
"Because it says so, right here in the Bible!"
"And gold is at an all-time high, so you should let me sell you some."
Evolution has NOTHING to do with critical thinking, applying concepts and formulas or problem solving. NOTHING.
So are you saying that you believe in evolution?
As one very clever person said some time ago, debating a Fundy is like playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon clumsily wanders around the board knocking over the pieces. It then shits on the board and struts cockily away, convinced it has "won".
Biblical Creation has much less to do with critical think--
Oh crap. My irony meter is going off.
@John
Have you ever heard of double predestination? There are people who believe in that.
Funny, some of the former Popes believe in both god and Evolution.
Perhaps they're not mutually exclusive as you'd like to believe?
Evolution = theory of origins based on where existing evidence has led us to.
Biblical Creation = one of 10,000 different magical stories that have been invented throughout human history as to how we got here.
Biblical Creation = God's revelation how it really went down
Ok, give us the mechanism by which a bacteria can adapt to using a source of energy that didn't exist 100 years ago.
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Well? Doesn't the Bible have that information then?
Evolution = theory of origins from a godless perspective
If you can't even define evolution correctly, what makes you think anyone will believe your version of "the Glorious Gospel of our Lord Jesus"?
I'll just give em the Glorious Gospel of our Lord Jesus.
Ken Ham already tried that, and he lost rather badly.
For Celestia's sake, giving someone a document he considers fictional isn't going to convince him.
Oh sure, because no creationist has ever tried that before - and come horribly, horribly to grief in so doing. Me and my Volkswagen have more chance of beating Vettel and his Red Bull than you have of winning a debate armed with the Glorious Gospel of Absolute Horseshit.
Oh look, another fundamentalist who actually believes that life works like a Chick tract.
Here's a hint jonshaff, Kent Hovind has been challenged to numerous online debates. He has always refused. While claims that he doe not have the time, he still refuses even when accommodations are made. The reason is painfully obvious: in an online debate, his trademark showmanship would be worthless and people would have a record of his claims which they could verify at their leisure.
Care to consider why Hovind would be anxious about that?
Reminds me of Matt Dillahunty's debate with Ray Comfort. It was essentially Ray repeating the same three points over and over:must have a creator
Naturally, Matt won the debate, and Ray sounded like a broken record.
"Evolution = theory of origins from a godless perspective"
Why do you believe that? Lots of people believe a god guides evolution, and many of those people believe it's your God.
Whether you believe a god guides it or not, evolution is a fact. Deal with it.
"Biblical Creation = God's revelation how it really went down"
Prove it.
"It's that simple...sign me up to debate the next guy, I'll just give em the Glorious Gospel of our Lord Jesus. "
- Ken Ham got Destroyed by Bill Nye at that Debate using exactly that, only vastly more competent that you ever could. So what makes you think you could even take on a college kid?
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