Here's my position for the record: based on the evidence I've read and seen, I've personally concluded that Uri Geller has psychic powers. Is it possible that I'm wrong? Is it possible that he cheated? Sure, but you could say that about almost anything. It's possible that I'm wrong that the country Spain actually exists - I've never visited it for myself. Am I as convinced that Uri has psychic powers as I am that Spain exists? Not quite, but it is my (provisional) conclusion.
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You're wrong. He cheated.
I honestly understand the desire - in some people, it's a need - to believe in things bigger than ourselves.
But Uri Fucking Geller? I don't know why, but I find Geller to be a special kind of...gross. His trickery is gross.
Rule of thumb: If money is involved, you're about to be ripped off.
You're wrong.
And there's over 140,000 reasons why Geller is.
Yet, James Randi & Spain exists. But your 'conclusion' never will.
Nor will Geller's credibility after he was exposed by Randi.
Fucking pathetic, that's all there is to it. This isn't even getting into the fact that there's plenty of actual objective evidence that Spain exists - there's maps pointing it out, extensively-documented history about it, people all over the world descended from Spanish people, people from Spain going out to visit shitholes all around the world like yours, you can actually fucking visit it as you said - versus no evidence in favor of Geller or anyone else having psychic powers that the self-proclaimed psychics in question do not have complete control over the demonstration to convincingly fake it.
No, this is beyond simply being ignorant, this is being actively retarded. You can't prove psychic powers exist, therefore an entire fucking country that's existed more or less in its current form for over five-fucking-hundred years suddenly stops existing because you're too fucking lazy to look at a goddamned map ?
Laird is the owner of psiencequest.net, if any of you do not know what it is, it is a psychic woo forum. Laird also thinks the Enfield poltergeist is genuine and the fraudulent medium Leonora Piper communicated with spirits. He refuses to read any of the skeptical literature.
He claims Geller has psychic powers but he has never read Randi's book on Geller. You are looking at a true believer here.
Laird is also an administrator on the famous pseudoscientific 'skeptiko' forum owned by Alex Tsakiris. On that forum he has expressed in posts his support for intelligent design.
Laird Shaw the guy who wrote that comment about Uri Geller has confessed to having mental illness:
"I suffer from a psychospiritual condition which has brought me to the attention of the mental health authorities, and I find myself in and out of psych wards, rejecting the solutions forced upon me, but unable to discover a viable alternative for myself."
http://fruitarians.net/laird
He is also a self-confessed fruitarian, with some very wacky ideas about dieting.
The 'in and out of psych wards' would explain why his critical faculties are lacking.
Information about Laird Shaw here:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Laird_Shaw
He has admitted to having being diagnosed with schizophrenia. He is not right in the head, this would explain his irrational belief in Uri Geller and psychic powers.
Yup, you're wrong and yup, he cheated. If he truly has magic powers, he ought to go see James Randi and collect a million dollar. (Ooops, I see he will be too late; the challenge has been discontinued after two decades of no takers.)
I hope the country Spain exists; we export trailers full of warehouse trucks there every week. If it doesn't exist, where are the trucks and why are we still getting paid for the trucks?
(I've been to Majorca twice, so I KNOW that it exists, of course.)
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