A father has been found guilty of wounding his two children by putting pins through their tongues and lips.
It was alleged the father told the boys he inflicted the injuries because God had his tongue cut off in the Bible.
At the 10-week trial, the jury was told the father would put clothes pegs on the children's lips and tongues.
The court also heard he cut their mouths with scalpel blades.
He was also accused of pressing the tongue of one of the children with sharp pliers until it bled and swelled.
It was alleged he would then stitch up the wounds with a medical kit.
The jury heard the mother of the boys would watch, or turn a blind eye, as their father carried out the attacks at their home.
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I am truly and utterly disgusted by this. There is absolutely no way to excuse acts so vile to small children, and doing it on a religious basis (and finding it okay) is despicable. If I believed in a place such as hell, I would find it suiting you wind up there.
I know it is unenforcable and probably a violation of a individual freedoms, but parents should be banned from teaching their children religion, or interacting with them for any religious reasons until the children are 12 or something.
Seriously, nothing fucks up children more than religion (especially religiously inspired abuse).
This sort of abuse happens in all dysfunctional families and the mother looking away is all too common unfortunately, or even alleging a child is lying when they confide about the (sexual) abuse.
Now if you take that fucked-up ness and season with religious fundamentalism and a dislike for psychotropic medicine, you've got people drowning their kids for Jesus, chopping off limbs or this fixation with the mouth.
People like this (the father) should not have children, and I would approve if this man was to be castrated.
The mother is not without blame either. It's not clear from the article whether or not she approved of this abuse, or merely tolerated it because she was scared shitless the bastard would do something horrible to her too, but she still should have called in the authorities.
There is just no excuse for abuse.
"she was scared shitless the bastard would do something horrible to her too"
Call me a crazy bitch but I'm one of those moms that would happily sacrifice her wellbeing to make sure my child was out of harms way.
"Sure my kids are in agonizing pain and mental anguish but at least I'm unharmed!!" The best submissive wife any deranged mofo could ask for.
That makes me sick to my stomach.
The problems is, where will the kids go now? They hopefully will be removed from the parent's home, but where will they go? Family members are most likely just as disturbed as the parents and State Care is not necessary a positive experience either.
This is how abusers and nut-jobs are raised!
It's sickening that the once who proclaime to love the most are the most deranged and evil!
I would normally think that this was the result of a serious mental disorder.
However, as this was not mentioned - and they were found guilty - then I imagine that this was not considered to be the case by psychiatrists (who would certainly have been involved). I guess they are just fucking evil.
I'm not into schadenfreude, but they certainly won't have a very nice time in a UK prison - I imagine it's the same in the States. Stick to the snake handling, you utter cunts.
I think that somebody posted it before. However, it still amazes me. I find terrible that:
a)he lies(nowhere in the Bible says that Jesus did such a thing)
b)That he misread some verse in which Jesus, as a way of METAPHORICAL example said: "if your tongue makes you sin, cut off your tongue"(confirming, again, the literacy skills of fundies)
c)that even if it were true, why didn't he do it himself?, or be a celibate like Jesus was and spare his kids of all that suffering(and that is patently verified)?.
Again, when somebody tries to justify his sadism with religion, he both disservice religion and is a total ASSHOLE.
Niobe: I'm with you on this one. Someone wants to hurt my child, they have to go through me first. And if I take the abuse so she doesn't have to, so be it (though they'd only do it once in either case).
Yes, had this before.
http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?q=31201
I thought we had.
According to the story, this went on between 2003 and 2005. The mind boggles to think that these kids could walk around for two years with the cuts and scars that would have resulted from this treatment, and nobody did anything.
this isn't fundamentalism, it's an insane man who tortures children. the fact that he happens to have a twisted religious fixation is something of a side note. in all probability he'd have done it anyway.
I will also point out to Alwimo that "fundie" and "accomplice to torture" are not synonymous. For all we know she was an atheist who happened to be either so twisted or so weak that she'd allow that to happen to her children.
Yes, this is horrible and disgusting, but the fact that the guy had a religious mania does not make him a fundamentalist.
That vicious, sadistic FUCK.
How I'd love for him to be sent to prison, but housed in the main population; and how I'd love for the prisoners to be told his name, the nature of his crime, and given a picture of him before he arrives in the general population.
Pardon my Français...
@417383: "this isn't fundamentalism, it's an insane man who tortures children. the fact that he happens to have a twisted religious fixation is something of a side note. in all probability he'd have done it anyway."
He may be a fundie because he allegedly justified it with his religion. If he had allegedly justified it using something else, he may not be a fundie.
"I will also point out to Alwimo that "fundie" and "accomplice to torture" are not synonymous".
I did not suggest that they were synonymous. Fundamentalism can be expressed in many ways, however, including by allowing torture justified by religious belief to occur. An apple is a type of fruit but "apple" and "fruit" are not synonymous.
"For all we know she was an atheist who happened to be either so twisted or so weak that she'd allow that to happen to her children."
The mother is also bad if this is true and I was frustrated that the father was singled out. It is a very distinct possibility that she is also a fundie, however. For all we know, they didn't do anything wrong and the allegations are false.
Religion doesn't make people do this. Serious mental issues do. The man would be nucking futs no matter what his beliefs were.
This isn't fundy, it just fucking sad and deranged.
Onions, what you say is true to some extent. Yes, both the adults concerned have serious mental issues and they both should be sectioned ASAP IMHO
But as to whether the insanity is due to the religion or the religion due to the insanity, it's anyone's guess. As long as both of these bastards are kept very far away from children for a very long time I can't say I'm really very concerned.
SG
Child abuse is cool, so long as its in God's name. Obviously, although I'm pretty certain in the new testament its kinda saying that abusing your kids ain't exactly the done thing. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't really give a shit.
More likely the mother was terrified into doing nothing...
Which is NOT to say she's blameless, just that the wording here is Not Good.
So the parents are from Nigeria, the father a self styled preacher, and the mother who typically believe they are property of their husbands - Nigeria is where there are some so called christians that make the American fundies look pleasant and civilized in comparison . There are preachers who make a living by exhorting money from families by declaring a child a "witch" with no evidence and charging huge sums to cast out the demons
@Alwimo
"Fundamentalism can be expressed in many ways, however, including by allowing torture justified by religious belief to occur."
Fou and I are looking at this differently. From what I can tell, you got the impression he did this because of religion, and I got the impression he did it because he wanted to and then convinced himself that god had told him to. Looked at the first way I could see this being fundie. Looked at the second way the label doesn't (to me) seem to fit.
"The mother is also bad if this is true and I was frustrated that the father was singled out. It is a very distinct possibility that she is also a fundie, however. For all we know, they didn't do anything wrong and the allegations are false."
Good point.
@418193:
It seems likely to me as well that he did it because he wanted to and then tried to justify it, the more I think about it. Even assuming that he was only telling himself that it's okay by using a religious argument (and his faith had nothing to do with why he did it), it sounds fundie to me.
Someone convincing himself that there's nothing wrong with hurting his children like this because of his interpretation of his religious text...
This is one sicko who just wanted an excuse to torture something.
@Ambrielle
The reason why you never heard about God cutting off his tongue is because God couldn't talk after that.
@Iron Knee
Oh and then they kill the child anyway because they 'failed'.
So...where was the mother while this was happening? The one who could have stopped this with a phone call to the cops before daddy mutilated his own children? Who should have done *anything* to protect her children from this creature?
She deserves whatever the father gets twice over.
Let's remember, gang... a lot of mentally disturbed folk manage to find some interpretation of some religious text somewhere, upon which to base their activities. What about the fellow who evidenced many signs of psychopathology, regularly stuck needles inside himself rectally, whose children testified to witnessing such masochistic acts, who had written a letter to confess to the kidnapping, raping and cannibalism of a young girl, when no real leads had presented themselves? This man based his deeds and thoughts upon a completely twisted and insane interpretation of religion as he knew it, but had the predominant religion of his time, place, and upbringing been Wicca, Shinto, or Logical Positivism, I remain sure a manifestation of his basic insanity would've been made manifest through whatever form was culturally prevalent. Just as other organs or systems may not work as they should, but enough to enable survival, so too it can be with the human brain, which has far more complexity in the outcome for other humans, than any other organ...
this is sick and disgusting, if this man was truly doing god's work, well then that makes god as sick as this ass. Children are something i will not tolerate to see get abused even in the name of religlion. this is yet another reason some abandon the faith.
I remember reading once that in the early 19th century a family joined a cult that required them to commit suicide, and kill their children. They were stopped by the police and took the case to the Supreme Court, which ruled what is obvious to sane people that freedom of religion doesn't include the right to kill people because of your religious beliefs.
And it doesn't include the right to abuse your children either.
The saddest thing to me is, s the kids go through the rest of their lives, every time they look in the mirror they'll be reminded of the horrific childhood they endured. They'll have those scars forever, inside and out,
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