While a parent ultimately makes the decision, I think Christians should seriously consider removing their children from public schools. Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God.
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According to Ruiz, the following are distinctly Christian statements:
"Rainbows are caused by the way sunlight reflects off of raindrops."
"George Washington was the first president of the United States."
"2 + 2 = 4"
Good. More teacher time for my kids. And maybe they could actually learn about evolution in school instead of having teachers skirting the issue because they're too afraid of backlash by fundie Christian parents.
But I'm still trying to wrap my head around "Education is a Christian act, so Christians take your kids out of school."
Yes, those damn public schools. There's always at least one bad apple of a teacher that fosters independent thought, anathema to religion. Much better to be educated by pathological liars who know everything. No thinking required.
No, education must be secular (which is not the same as atheistic) otherwise it will just be pure bias from beginning to end. Every other country in the free world has completely secular education, and in theory so does the US, but you fuckers devote all your energy to destroying the US public school system, and have damn well succeeded. It is the absolute worst in the entire free world. You should be ASHAMED of yourselves, but instead, you are proud of wrecking this once-great country! The Teabaggers are the eternal enemies of America; communists and terrorists are only transient.
@Brendan Rizzo
Good point.
@ Brendan Rizzo
I am sad now. Hopefully the system improves.
Idealistic as it is, I think it will. This kind of political divide we have today is not much different as it was in the 60s.
As for Ruiz, religious education is inherently biased. Secular education is the way to go.
I disagree with many of my fellow FSTDT'ers here. We need to protect these children somehow from their parents who will destroy their lives. I don't know what the answer is, I mean I guess it is un-American to dictate to a parent how to raise their children but we, as a society, have to ask ourselves a question. If these kids were mature adults, knowing what we know, would they have decided that being home schooled by religious lunatics was in their best interests?
I think not.
PS - Pete (the next post) cut right to the chase and I like it!
Yes, I think Ruiz is right. Children need to be suitably equipped to face all the demands of adulthood. A Christian or Fundamental Cultist schooling is the way to best provide for a child's future. We all know that an invisible non-existent god-man-ghost helps con-men to fill their pockets and to bolster their ego, but they need the type of undiscerning adult who knows not ask any awkward questions and who will believe any old tosh that they're told. And what better an institution to manufacture the right type of adult than a Christian or Fundamental Cultist school.
As a parent with children receiving the right teaching you can rest assured your child will be receiving good lessons in gullibility, will learn how to lie unconvincingly, know the best way to convey his or her bigotry and the best way to make use of his or her glorious ignorance. Also, children are encouraged to play a full part in the community by learning how to treat practically anything as a persecution of their Christian or cultish beliefs, as well as, and perhaps more importantly, knowing how to persecute mercilessly those who disagree with them.
But perhaps the most important lesson is servility. Your children will learn how to become servile lackeys to any blustering dimwit who quotes biblical verses at them. Of course, girls will learn how to be servile to all men and need not go to school at all, having all they are required to know beaten in to them by their master at home.
"While a parent ultimately makes the decision, I think Christians should seriously consider removing their children from public schools. Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God."
...meanwhile on Planet Reality, here in the UK, even homeschooling/private tutoring has to conform to the National Curriculum. This especially includes 'faith' schools.
If said 'Faith' Schools are to receive state funding, they must comply with the law, re. said National Curriculum, which means they must teach Evolution & the Big Bang as fact .
No 'Kitzmiller vs. Dover required.
Take it from someone who was a product of Britain's state-controlled, secular education system. It's done me - an Atheist - no harm whatsoever. But that's what comes from a school system with teachers who encouraged us to think for ourselves .
Education is a Christian act, so Christians shouldn't let their kids be educated?
Oh right, you think that schools are atheist indoctrination centers, while you instruct your kids to the unquestioned "truth" of Christianity at home. Which is totally not brainwashing.
Gee, I guess all the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and etc. aren't going to school then.
Oh wait.
Gee, I guess all the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and etc. aren't going to school then.
Oh wait.
Edit: sorry for the double post.
Okay, when all CHRISTIANS can agree on one version of their bible, we'll teach it.
Sounds easier than it is!
Education, by definition, is teaching someone something.
It has never, ever been solely conducted by any faith--least of all Christianity!
So apparently every M.I.T. Grad, Neurosurgeon & Stephen Hawking is Lenny Smalls, now.
Apparently, the human species before Jesus didn't have a functioning brain.
What was I doing in those big buildings in Niagara Falls & Buffalo between Ages 4-18?
Tell you want, you educate your kids in a Christian way rooted in God, and the rest of us will keep doling it the proven way.
>> Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God. <<
I thought the quest for knowledge was the whole reason we're all going to hell and the women folk are the cause of it all, those Jezebels!
Updating children on human discoveries and achievements, explaining them the reasons why we hold certain opinions - and their limits- , exciting their passion for knowledge = education.
Requiring them to accept unexplained dogma and terrifying them away from seeking alternatives = brainwashing.
Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God.
No, it's really not, bro.
If you think education is supposed to be Christian, by all means remove your children from public schools, rather than buggering up those schools for people who think education is supposed to be about English, history, science, math, and civics.
@Reynardine
Good heavens, no! Why should parents be allowed to abuse another person, just because it's their child?
Let them tell whatever bullshit they want, in their spare time: lying to children is unethical, but can't be avoided; but minimum standards of education for everyone are a basic right.
"Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God. "
---I thinkk 'education' should read 'brainwashing'.
Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God.
The christian God must be on vacation:
Shanghai high school students scored the highest in math, science and reading comprehension on the OECD administered test
There may be a few christians among the students, but Chinese society is far from being "distinctly Christian."
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Maybe God just likes people to be losers and therefore promotes home schooling.
"Education is not secular, it is a distinctly Christian act rooted in God."
Uh, no.
Go ahead, name a few American nobel prize winners who eschewed public schools and were educated in Christian schools.
This is indeed quite a conundrum:
What to do, what to do...
If we left it up to you and your ilk, you'd make the Dark Ages look positively enlightened by comparison.
Fortunately, you're an idiot, and what you think (sic) doesn't matter in the real world.
So atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, and people of other religions or lack thereof don't educate their children?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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