According to my definition Einstein was not atheist. A scientist maybe. But that isn't atheism. Atheism is not scientific. I'm not saying atheist are useless morons. But I am saying that no-body ever made history for very long being one. Because they just arn't that smart.
Sure you can gather together all the people who have being atheists. But I would argue that they didn't contribute anything that will allow them to be remembered for a very long time about anything that significant.
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"Because they just arn't that smart."
In a post rife with typos, spelling errors, and bad grammar. Yeppers, typical fundie.
"But I am saying that no-body ever made history for very long being one. Because they just arn't that smart. " Alan Turing invented stored program computers and Bill Gates invented Windows. Both were atheists. Fundies don't remember them because fundies are useless morons who can't even remember their own book of fairy tales, let alone who is responsible for the technology that allows them to post their nonsense on the internet.
PS if you don't like Windows Steve Jobs was also an atheist.
Einstein was an atheist with respect to a personal god (you know, the guy who cares what you had for breakfast and whether you were thinking about sex at the time). He was an agnostic with respect to god, the creator of the universe.
The rest of this is equally uninformed.
I would argue that they didn't contribute anything that will allow them to be remembered for a very long time about anything that significant.
Bill Gates. Microsoft. Windows. Or, on the other hand, Steve Jobs and Apple. Or Linus Torvalds and Linux. So 99.99% of all computers in the world are running operating systems developed by atheists. I have yet to see a Christian develop JesusOS.
"According to my definition..."
Yeah, funny how you can make anything true when you're in charge of definitions.
According to my definition, you are a useless moron.
"But I am saying that no-body ever made history for very long being one."
Stalin?
Mao?
Hitler? (Yeah, I know. But the fundies love to throw him in there with the rest. (Besides, according to my definition, I can claim anything I want!))
@Tempus:
Ichthux is based on kbuntu, a version of linux, invented by yet another atheist.
Edit: where did this come from?
"But I would argue that they didn't contribute anything that will allow them to be remembered for a very long"...
Your kind insist on Hitler being an atheist. Remember him? Think anyone else know of him, and will in the future?
( Reverse Godwin? )
According to my definition
And just what is that definition?
Wait, I know: anybody who does anything significant and of historical value isn't an atheist, whether they believe in God or not.
Wow, that makes things easy.
@Mister Spak: It's apparently a site bug. When you reload a page after you've posted, it posts it again. You have to back out of the page and then click the link again to refresh the page. Oddly enough, it seems to have a use--troll posters often just hit "reload" to refresh the page, and it copies their last post again, so it makes it possible to see that they're still following the page.
/Shoulda posted this via Linux Mint.
//Dual-booting rocks.
"I'm not saying atheist are useless morons."
I'm just going to heavily imply it. Now, for an oldie but goodie .
@Doubting Thomas et al
Let's not forget about Richard Stallman and the GNU project. Stallman doesn't strike me as particularly religious, either.
Did Albert Einstein believe in God? Many religious theists cite Einstein as an example of a smart scientist who was also a religious theist like them. This supposedly rebuts the idea that science conflicts with religion or that science is atheistic. However, Albert Einstein consistently and unambiguously denied believing in personal gods who answered prayers or involved themselves in human affairs - exactly the sort of god common to religious theists claiming that Einstein was one of them.
1. Albert Einstein: God is a Product of Human Weakness
The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.
Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954
"But I am saying that no-body ever made history for very long being one."
Stalin?
Mao?
Hitler? (Yeah, I know. But the fundies love to throw him in there with the rest. (Besides, according to my definition, I can claim anything I want!))
While we're on the subject of atheists with a less than exactly positive claim to fame, don't forget Donatien Alphonse François, Marquis de Sade. Not exactly what he's best known for, but (unlike Adolf here) he was a genuine and vehement -rabid, one could even say- atheist. As a matter of facts, his radical atheism and far-left positions earned him the hatred of Robespierre, who had him sentenced to death.It was only administrative disorder that delayed his date with the guillotine enough for Robespierre's fall to save Sade's head.
I'd love to see a debate between Sade and Mystic7, the good Marquis would rape the silly fundie (verbally, I mean :P)
Also remember good ol' Karl Marx :P
Actually Einstein was most likely agnostic. While he put little stock in known religion he did entertain the possibility of a creator entity.
"I want to know God's thought's, the rest is irrelevant. "
> According to my definition Einstein was not atheist. A scientist maybe.
You are correct. Einstein was a deist.
> Atheism is not scientific.
It depends. Usually atheism goes like this:
A: No evidence of God exists
B: Therefore, there is no reason to believe God exists
How is that unscientific?
> I'm not saying atheist are useless morons.
But that is exactly what you go on to say.
> Sure you can gather together all the people who have being atheists.
There are likely many, many atheists who always kept their lack of a belief in God hidden to avoid persecution. You will never gather them all together.
> But I would argue that they didn't contribute anything that will allow them to be remembered for a very long time about anything that significant.
What about Bill Gates? What about Charles Darwin?
These two fellows, agnostic atheists, will be remembered for a long, long time for their contributions to humankind.
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