People are always trying to re-write history. Christianity never had the issue of treating women badly. It was the social environment that Christianity changed over the years.
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You're all for women's liberation, suffragettes, abortion availability, kindergartens, women priests, etc, then, Thinkingstuff? Gooooood!
I'm gonna say submission, property, baby makers, witch hunts, vlaue of virginity, forced modesty, abstinence-only education, pro-life movement, anti-feminists, etc. It's early. I can't form coherent sentences.
People are always trying to re-write history.
Yes, because that makes it easier for them to live with their own beliefs. Y'know just like what you are trying to do in that post of yours.
Christians read the Bible, the Bible states that women should marry their rapists.
Well, that was a quick end to a stupid discussion.
*Kaboom* Not another irony meter! That one wasn't even turned on.
So you're bitching about how people are rewriting history to suit their beliefs, while at the very same time, denying that your bible ever taught that women are to be submissive and subservient to men.
Never had the issue of treating women badly, because treating women well used to mean, well, all that lovely stuff in the Bible, which we today think is completely awful.
People are always trying to re-write history.
They sure are, Thinkingstuff. They sure are.
Christianity never had the issue of treating women badly.
You bet. There really isn't any misogyny in the Bible, aside from Exodus 21:7, 1 Timothy 2:9-15, and a host of other passages I can't be bothered to look up right now. Once you get past those, it really doesn't say anything about treating women badly.
It was the social environment that Christianity changed over the years.
Absolutely. The Christians have traditionally pushed really hard for women's rights. When you look at various women's rights movements throughout history, they've been right there, every step of the way. Just look at how many female clergy there are.
Every time society has struggled to improve conditions for people, whether it was women's rights, working conditions for the poor, labour unions, racial equality, there was religion firmly standing in the way of progress.
Christians didn't just burn millions of women to death for the imaginary crime of witchcraft, they slow roasted them so that there was enough time for the accused to confess her crimes and to name her co-conspirators.
No monotheistic religion is kind to women.
Despite the fact that this is a textbook example of rewriting history, I'm gonna have to call Hanlon's Razor here. This guy seems genuinely ignorant, otherwise there is no way that he could say that with a straight face.
People are always trying to re-write history. I will prove this by example, by doing so myself.
Edit: FRIG everybody else is smart and also faster than me/on here earlier.
I thought this guy might have been using sarcasm because of the Sagan quotes in his sig, but then I saw him trying to back up that statement here .
If he thinks about anything whatsoever, he's obviously basing it on misinformation. Methinks he needs to do a little more thinking about who his sources are.
Well, in this person's defense, if you:
You are right. Christianity never had the "issue" of treating women badly.
The idea of women being treated badly is a relatively recent one. Christians just assumed women should be chained to the bed/kitchen because that's what they should be doing. Its not abuse if the women themselves do it right?
Education of women has made this an issue. Without educated women we would still be thinking like this.
People are always trying to re-write history.
And in the next breath, you attempt to re-write history.
Christianity never had the issue of treating women badly.
See, you do like to re-write history. Read your own fucking bible.
Well, Jesus never had a record of treating women badly & was actually pretty darn proto-feminist....Then Constatine & a few spurious NT epistles (and the kabosh put on the Gnostic branch) came along & ruined everything....so yes, Christianity....or the junk that passes for it....indeed has a poor record with the Ladies.
If the position of the Bible was so clear, why taking excerpts out of contexts, generally from the OT, instead of recurring to, say, Aesop's tales?. Just a thought.
Imagine there is no reality.
Then, one can agree with what this guy says. As long as you stay in fantasy land.
Confused?
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