Since the population of mankind is a "closed" population - no humans can migrate to and from earth, only the rate of births and deaths can increase or decrease the human population.
Therefore, the way to control the population growth is through the increase of the human mortality rate by legitimate means. Not through the crimes of abortions, infanticide, euthanasia and etc; but through the automatic DEATH PENALTY for the broad spectrum of deeds that are high crimes in the sight of the true GOD. This principle of population control has never been addressed by demography. It is the cornerstone of proper human population control which the builders have rejected.
Some of the high crimes which God requires the human society to vigorously enforce the death penalty upon are: blasphemy against the true God; idolatry; breaking the Lord's day; dishonor to parents; murder; adultery; incest; homosexuality; bestiality; rape; kidnapping; seeking to destroy the righteous; putting to death the innocent (such as putting innocent embryos and fetuses to death in abortions); seeking to overthrow God's appointed authority, etc.
In order for the world community of humans to actually put this decorous principle into practice, it must adopt the MORAL LAW OF GOD - THE TEN COMMANDMENTS as the supreme laws of the World community.
This principle of controlling the population would positively affect the economic prosperity of nations, positively affect the health and increase the life expectancy of lawabidding citizens, properly educate the human race, positively affect the family structure, overwhelmingly reduce crime, etc. Every legitimate aspect of the human society would benefit greatly.
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"This principle of controlling the population would positively affect the economic prosperity of nations..."
Except for the part where all the businesspeople are dead.
"...positively affect the health and increase the life expectancy of lawabidding citizens..."
Except for the part where all the doctors are dead.
"...properly educate the human race..."
Except for the part where all the teachers are dead.
"...positively affect the family structure..."
Except for the part where the parents have no money to feed the kids because the buisinesspeople are dead, the kids can't learn anything useful like Math or Science or even non-Babble History because the teachers are dead, and hell, the kids don't survive childbirth anyway because all the doctors are dead.
"...overwhelmingly reduce crime..."
Except for the haggard refugees stealing food from the homes of the murdered in order to survive.
"...etc. Every legitimate aspect of the human society would benefit greatly."
Except for all of them.
Not through the crimes of abortions, infanticide, euthanasia and etc; but through the automatic DEATH PENALTY
I am trying to figure out why abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia are so wrong but the death penalty is quite OK. It just seems so logically inconsistent.
This principle of population control has never been addressed by demography.
Where you wrote 'population control', you meant 'bloodthirsty barbarism'. That might explain why demographers aren't rushing to address it.
People like you are making this planet a worse, more hateful place to live. Please, hop off at the next stop. We'll live in peace here while you fuck up somewhere else with your brutal, undeveloped mind and its asinine ideas.
Adopt the ten commandments??? If memory serves me correctly, there's something in there about "Thou shalt not kill." Well, I guess that demolishes this "decorous practice" of killing everyone who doesn't subscribe to your narrow-minded religion.
"Not through the crimes of abortions, infanticide, euthanasia and etc; but through the automatic DEATH"
Whats wrong with abortion if you condone the killing of nearly every human? Abortion and conception laws seem to be working for China. In about 100 years their population is going to plumit down to a few hundred million if they keep it up.
Mr. Lee:
Does this entitle us to stone you to death if we see you shopping at Home Depot on Sunday, or going to Applebee's for lunch after church? After all, you're causing someone else to work on the Sabbath, which is just as bad as working on the Sabbath.
Glass houses...
So let me see if I got this right.
Aborting a fetus is murder and against God's will, but stoning someone to death for not listening to their parents or collecting wood on the sabbath is what God wants?
Gottcha!
An embryo is more valuable. Better let that unwanted child be born, disobey his mother and THEN kill him.
That is so fucked up.
So, instead of increasing education with the intent of preventing unplanned pregnancies and reducing the number of new children produced, you propose that we kill everyone that you disagree with. I see.
"Therefore, the way to control the population growth is through the increase of the human mortality rate by legitimate means. Not through the crimes of abortions, infanticide, euthanasia and etc; but through the automatic DEATH PENALTY for the broad spectrum of deeds that are high crimes in the sight of the true GOD. This principle of population control has never been addressed by demography. It is the cornerstone of proper human population control which the builders have rejected."
Ah, yes, the culture of life.
Thank you, sir, for highlighting how retarded the Bibble is! And in a strikingly convincing manner, too. In fact I only know it to be satire because nobody who actually believes that kind of thing is allowed contact with anyone except the nurse who gives them the happy pills.
Thou shalt try real hard not to kill unless the object of thy wrath reveres a different invisible man than thou, or his speech offends thee, or he proves thee wrong, or he has a bigger dick then thou, or...
This principle of controlling the population would positively affect the economic prosperity of nations, positively affect the health and increase the life expectancy of lawabidding citizens, properly educate the human race, positively affect the family structure, overwhelmingly reduce crime, etc. Every legitimate aspect of the human society would benefit greatly."
...yeah, in a magical world where everybody is a robot.
Wow. Just...wow. This is like every horrible fundiesm thrown into one and then amplified.The only bright spot is that Robert T. Lee would be one of the many, MANY people put to death because he's judging his fellow man. I seem to recall a certain "Let he without sin cast the first stone" line from the bible...and I seriously doubt you can say you're not sinning when their own bible says only god can judge man ;)
We have to control the population by killing people! Not by the crimes of killing people, but by the legitimate killing of people in Gawd's name. I've got a better idea. If you want to control the population, let people have access to birth control, and stop encouraging them to pop out fifteen sprogs at a time. But then you wouldn't get to murder people, would you, you scary motherfucker?
Some of the high crimes which God requires the human society to vigorously enforce the death penalty upon are: blasphemy against the true God; idolatry; breaking the Lord's day; dishonor to parents; murder; adultery; incest; homosexuality; bestiality; rape; kidnapping; seeking to destroy the righteous; putting to death the innocent (such as putting innocent embryos and fetuses to death in abortions) seeking to overthrow God's appointed authority, etc.
Right, how's your omnipotent God going with that task you just gave him?
waiting...
waiting...
waiting...
zzzzzz...
Ever consider that you would be among the first to be righteously executed for "seeking to overthrow God's appointed authority" by trumpeting all this hateful craziness in his name?
You're just a small, frightened man who desperately wants to take revenge on a world that ignores you. You think cloaking your hatred with religion will make people think you're righteous, but it doesn't fool anyone. It just makes you look even more sick, twisted, and pathetic.
Jesus said he came to save humanity, while you say you want to kill everyone that you think is unworthy. Do you imagine that the rest of the world doesn't see you for the shrivelled black-hearted worm that you are?
I've always been for capital punishment (anyone ever hear of a man killing again after being executed?), but come on, teenage rebellion is neither crime nor sin.
Zadic: Terraforming Mars has three major engineering problems.
1. Low gravity ensures superthin atmosphere. This can be solved by smacking a good-sized moon or moons into the planet and waiting a long time for the dust to settle. Jupiter has many moons of various sizes.
2. That same lack of gravity would mean systemic physiological deterioration in humans and livestock. For solution, see 1.
3. The planet's rotation wobbles to such a high degree that a consistent climate is difficult to achieve, but not impossible. You gotta smack that moon into the planet at just the right angle to knock it back on track. Adding another moon in orbit would allow for some nice tides too.
Actually moving the moons to the planet is an exercise I'm not willing to tackle without a ridiculously large paycheck.
I often joke about how the religious care for people from conception until birth, but Robert T. Lee turned my joke into a fact. He says it's horrible to kill embryos (despite the fact that half of all pregnancies result in miscarriage, which he must consider abortion by God), but freely confesses that he's perfectly happy with killing babies for crying.
I can just imagine what kind of family values he'd like to see "brought back."
Doctor: Congratulations! You're pregnant!
Fundie Wife (FW): Yay! God has given us another child!
Fundie Husband (FH): Praise God!
FW: But the evil liberals would want us to get an abortion!
Liberal: No I don't.
FW: Yes you do and we won't fall for your evil ways!
Liberal: (rolls eyes)
-3 months later-
FH: I think we should pick this shade of blue for our boy's room.
FW: But what if it's a girl?
FH: What do you mean? We'll pray to God to give us a boy!
-3 more months later-
FW: I'm having cravings for muffins and morning sickness at the same time! Urg!
FH: The suffering is good for you. It's God's test of your faith.
FW: But I just can't take it!
FH: (slaps her) Quit complaining and make me breakfast, bitch!
-3 more months later-
FW: AAAAAAGGGGHHH!
FH: Now, now. Pain of childbirth is God's punishment to women for Eve's sin.
FW: AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHH!
-hours later-
Doctor: Congratulations! It's a boy!
FH: Aww! Another little soldier for Christ!
-13 months later-
FH: Now eat your peas!
Son: NO!
FH: How dare you disobey your father! (shoots son).
Robert T. Lee calls for the death of disobedient children. All children will throw temper tantrums at some point. So in short, Mr. Lee calls abortion "murder," then shoots the kids once they're born.
Of course, he does say that mass murder as a "punishment" for non-crimes would bring health, prosperity, and even education, but the first bit really struck me.
The good news is that if his plans were carried out, Robert T. Lee would be one of the first people "executed."
He lists "breaking the Lord's day" as one of his capital crimes.
Here's a screenshot of his web page. You'll notice he was busy at work updating it on February 23rd, 2003.
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February 23rd, 2003 is a Sunday.
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The prosecution rests.
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Some of the high crimes which God requires the human society to vigorously enforce the death penalty upon are: blasphemy against the true God; idolatry; breaking the Lord's day; dishonor to parents; murder; adultery; incest; homosexuality; bestiality; rape; kidnapping; seeking to destroy the righteous; putting to death the innocent (such as putting innocent embryos and fetuses to death in abortions) seeking to overthrow God's appointed authority, etc.
In order for the world community of humans to actually put this decorous principle into practice, it must adopt the MORAL LAW OF GOD - THE TEN COMMANDMENTS as the supreme laws of the World community.
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Except the entire world isn't "Christian". Good it isn't if being a "Christian" meant being like you.
Back in the late 1970s, MAD Magazine ran a parody of a Moral Majority dictionary. Among the terms defined in this parody dictionary was this:
"CAPITAL PUNISHMENT
Putting some rats to death! We feel that doing this will deter murderers (like abortionists)."
The difference here is that MAD Magazine was kidding....
blasphemy against the true God; idolatry; breaking the Lord's day; dishonor to parents; murder; adultery; incest; homosexuality; bestiality; rape; kidnapping; seeking to destroy the righteous; putting to death the innocent (such as putting innocent embryos and fetuses to death in abortions) seeking to overthrow God's appointed authority, etc.
I just love how the first crimes he mentions are blasphemy, breaking the Sabbath and idolatry, as if they are so much worse than Murder, rape and kidnapping...
So you are saying that all the following people should be killed?:
-all non judeo-christians
-all DOCTORS, NURSES, FIREFIGHTERS, and POLICE that work on Sudays
-all disobedient children (so, basically, every child from the age of 3 and up)
-everyone who cheats on their spouse
-all homosexuals
HOW DOES THIS MASS GENOCIDE HELP THE HUMAN RACE?! THERE WILL BE NONE OF US LEFT ONCE THIS IS DONE!!
IDIOT!
So we should kill everyone who: is gay, gets an abortion, disobeys their parents, reads Harry Potter, is not Christian, eats seafood, commits adultry, covets anything, masturbates, works on Sunday, says "goddammit," watches any movie not rated G, holds hands with someone of the opposite sex, wears jeans without possessing a penis, dates outside their race, votes Democrat, jaywalks, fails to use a turn signal, has sinful thoughts, etc...
Exactly how many people do you expect to be left after we do this "sinner cleanse?"
It´s actually a good way to depopulate the planet, moreover, not to find executioners at all. Besides, laws are meant to be fullfilled, NOT TO BE BROKEN. If too many people break the law, it is not valid. So, please, do a little research on other ways to control population growth.
if putting to death the innocent merits a death penalty, then the people responcible for executing the people this fundie wants killed, would be guilty of a capital crime.
I say we put this guy at the top of the "to do" list.
In that case, you're relativising life. Let me explain. If you're going to kill people to control population growth, you can't do it for those infringing certain rules. They're actually set to be fulfilled, not as a type of demographic corrector. They're, thus, to be meant to be obeyed and, if not, to be exemplary. If you say that they're a demographic regulator, you're admiting that some people's life is more worthy than others.
This sends shivers down my spine.
Oh, and dont forget... one of the ten commandments is 'thou shalt not kill'.... gasp?
Well, I guess that's ONE way to solve overpopulation... *headdesk*
Does this guy even realize how many people he's condemning to death? And that he'd have to conquer the world to enforce it, because no country will do it willingly?
No, that would not work. You would probably drive us extinct if you were in charge (thankfully, you would have to be more intelligent for that to happen).
See, everything in human nature is a crime against gawd, so why don't you just STFU and move to the mountains somewhere, where you can allow your schizophrenia to fully develop.
And remember, medication is really just poison!
lawabidding
Sorry, we've determined that anyone this stupid can't possible be qualified to decide to end another life for any reason whatsoever. Please turn in your driver's license, Social Security card and passport and proceed down the hall where the nice lady in the white uniform will give you your quiet pills and some apple juice.
Not through the crimes of abortions, infanticide , euthanasia and etc; but through the automatic DEATH PENALTY for the broad spectrum of deeds that are high crimes in the sight of the true GOD. This principle of population control has never been addressed by demography. It is the cornerstone of proper human population control which the builders have rejected.
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Some of the high crimes which God requires the human society to vigorously enforce the death penalty upon are: blasphemy against the true God; idolatry; breaking the Lord's day; dishonor to parents ; murder; adultery; incest; homosexuality; bestiality; rape; kidnapping; seeking to destroy the righteous; putting to death the innocent (such as putting innocent embryos and fetuses to death in abortions); seeking to overthrow God's appointed authority, etc.
Do I see a small contradiction here?
And I guess you see yourself as “pro-life”, aren’t you?
PS: re: breaking the Lord's day : Isn’t there a story in the gospels about Jesus healing people on the Sabbath and getting into trouble for it? Why do you want to kill your savior?
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