You know, REALLY, AIDS is with us for the same reason syphillus is with us...because men have sex with animals. Sheep in the case of syphillus and monkeys in the case of AIDS. AIDS was isolated in the early 1950's. Latex condoms do not protect you, either, no joke. The only thing that does? A condom made of polyurethane. If you're having to battle the AIDS virus, use boxwort, it's an herb that has shown promise.
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"You know, REALLY, AIDS is with us for the same reason syphillus is with us...because men have sex with animals. Sheep in the case of syphillus"Whether it's true or not, I do not know, but I have read that syphillus did come from sheep.
"and monkeys in the case of AIDS."
No. There is evidence that HIV may have been introduced into the human population by eating monkey brains, but not through sex with monkeys.
"AIDS was isolated in the early 1950's. Latex condoms do not protect you, either, no joke."
While nothing short of already being dead is a 100% preventative against HIV, latex condoms have been shown to provide excellent protection from HIV and other STDs.
"The only thing that does? A condom made of polyurethane."
No product provides 100% protection.
"If you're having to battle the AIDS virus, use boxwort, it's an herb that has shown promise."
There's some good reasoning. Complain that latex condoms aren't good protection and then recommend an experimental herbal treatment rather than the anti-virals which have been shown to extend the lives of AIDS victims in the U.S. by decades.
The reason AIDS is so incredibly difficult to fight is that the virus evolves at a terrifying rate compared to a lot of other viruses. To quote wikipedia, HIV differs from many other viruses as it has very high genetic variability. This diversity is a result of its fast replication cycle, with the generation of 109 to 1010 virions every day, coupled with a high mutation rate of approximately 3 x 10-5 per nucleotide base per cycle of replication and recombinogenic properties of reverse transcriptase.[62] This complex scenario leads to the generation of many variants of HIV in a single infected patient in the course of one day.[62] This variability is compounded when a single cell is simultaneously infected by two or more different strains of HIV. When simultaneous infection occurs, the genome of progeny virions may be composed of RNA strands from two different strains. This hybrid virion then infects a new cell where it undergoes replication. As this happens, the reverse transcriptase, by jumping back and forth between the two different RNA templates, will generate a newly synthesized retroviral DNA sequence that is a recombinant between the two parental genomes.[62] This recombination is most obvious when it occurs between subtypes . Did you get that? Multiple different strains in the same person A SINGLE DAY - so tell us, please, which of the countless different strains of the virus is "boxwort" effective against, and how is that in any way useful once resistant strains survive it and spread everywhere?
Since when SHEEP were spreaders of syphillis?. I agree with the monkey business, but there are ways to spread it, do you know what?, yes, EATING, because blood is as powerfull spreader as semen. Second, AIDS was spread out of Africa, WE BELIEVE, in the 50, maybe before, but it was not fully diagnosed and described until the seventies. And just a question, expert, since when latex is not a good isolator?, and what are you talking about those HERBS?. There are lots of antibiotics that can actually KILL the virus, problem is that we´re unable to restore the immunological system, so those herbs are worth nothing. And condoms ONLY AVOID spreading, they´re not medicines. Together with the fact that you can´t type and spell ok, what was your argument anyway?
Latex condoms do not protect you, either, no joke. The only thing that does? A condom made of polyurethane.
tracer: heavenlei: Every sentence in your post is wrong. Do some real research, stop making crap up, and try again.
"Latex condoms do not protect you, either, no joke." Hes right there. Condoms dont provide full protection, a buddy of mine wore one once and he was hit by a bus.
Well, AIDS is like a fluid-transfer thing, so.. I think condoms would help a lot...
I dunno wtf boxwort is...
@heavenlei:
You Fail Medicine Forever
>>Brain_In_A_Jar
The reason AIDS is so incredibly difficult to fight is that the virus evolves at a terrifying rate compared to a lot of other viruses. To quote wikipedia: HIV differs from many other viruses as it has very high genetic variability. This diversity is a result of its fast replication cycle, with the generation of 109 to 1010 virions every day, coupled with a high mutation rate of approximately 3 x 10-5 per nucleotide base per cycle of replication and recombinogenic properties of reverse transcriptase. This complex scenario leads to the generation of many variants of HIV in a single infected patient in the course of one day. <<
Just to clarify: that should be "10^9 to 10^10 virions every day" and "3 x 10^-5 per nucleotide base per cycle".
What that means is that in an untreated HIV-positive patient, between 1 and 10 billion copies of the virus are being made every day. But each virus is only ~10 thousand bases long. So 10^4 x 3 x 10^-5 = 0.3 = 30% of those copies have at least one base change from the virus that they were copied from.
Every day, there are billions of new variants for the patient's body to cope with. Most of them are not mutated enough to matter, but that high mutation rate what makes a vaccine almost impossible.
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