Regarding the new abortion law passed recently in Victoria: "The Bill is an unprecedented attack on the freedom to hold and exercise fundamental religious beliefs."
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What many people defending freedom of religion don't seem to be getting, is that it ALSO APPLIES TO OTHER PEOPLE. You can not force your beliefs on other people, that is exactly what freedom of religion means.
Archbishop Hart, take it to court, but be prepared to present evidence for your god that will be accepted into a trial. Can you do that? If not, STFU!
"The Bill is an unprecedented attack on the freedom to hold and exercise fundamental religious beliefs."
Maybe we should rephrase it to make it correct:
According to the article, the bill's opponents claim it would require all hospitals that provide maternity and emergency services to provide abortion services -- even if the Hospital in question is run by Catholics.
This is why Archbishop Hart is saying the bill is an attack on religious freedom.
For those non-Aussies, I believe the Bill was about doctors with anti-abortion views having to now actually refer their patients to other doctors if they are wanting a termination.
Abortion has been legally available in Victoria for decades.
I can see his point, and if the medical facilities are at least majoritorily privately funded, then that's a fair case to make... but as Berny said, it's yet another reason why a religious/political agenda-based facility should not be funded by the state.
What the shit? How in the hell is allowing abortion, which is a private decision of one person (maybe two), who may not even believe in religious BS anyway, an attack on someone else's religious freedoms? This is total bullshit.
Uh... abortion is mandatory in Victoria now? Bloody hell, Aussies, that's going a bit far.
*goes and puts another foetus on the barbie*
In his letter to parishioners, Archbishop Hart said health professionals who opposed abortion would have no option but to terminate a pregnancy if it were deemed an emergency.
Making doctors obligated to save lives infringes on their religious beliefs!
Bastard.
"He said the church did not condemn women who had abortions."
"Together with their children, they are the principal victims of the new culture of death," he said.
1BurningStake: The States and territories in Aust decide their own laws about Abortion. Abortion was under the Criminal act in Victoria and the Bill is to decriminalise abortion for point blank obvious reasons.
Fix me if I'm wrong but isn't Archbishop Hart one of the people that strongly encouraging the Catholic hospitals to shut down the maternity wards in protest of this or till the bill was over turned?
way to use Religious freedom... Wouldn't that count as an act of terrorism?
#785473: It's actually happened, though not with a doctor. I believe an EMT driver refused to take a woman to a clinic for a medically necessary abortion and, if I'm remembering right, she died. I need to dig up that link.
You religious types are a bit thick, aren't you? Nobody is stopping you from believing whatever shit you want about abortion, butyour point of view is not the law. That's what you get for living in the wrong century.
Oh yes, bish. We know why you left-footer clergy are soooooo opposed to abortion.
Means less little boys out there for your priests to diddle.
The Bible itself makes absolutely no mention of condemning paedophilia. Oh yes. 'the freedom to hold and exercise fundamental religious beliefs', alright.
With the emphasis on Hold .
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